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Old 05-30-2006, 12:23 AM
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The motor will go first.
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Old 05-30-2006, 12:38 AM
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So you must have Ni-MH charger with Dean plug for that battery, don't you?

Question: can I change the stock charger (wall charger) to have a Dean plug? In this way, if I change the stock battery to have dean plug, I can still charge it with the stock charger.
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So you must have Ni-MH charger with Dean plug for that battery, don't you?
Yep!

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an I change the stock charger (wall charger) to have a Dean plug?
You can but the stock charger is sooooo slow.
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Old 05-30-2006, 11:34 PM
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Inverted what charger do you use? With the stock battery and charger how long dose it take to charge?
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Old 05-31-2006, 03:10 AM
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I just had to register here to clear a few things up, speaking from my personal experience.

I bought my Mini LST used in January, with a Mamba 5400 already installed. I ran it around for a month on 6 IB1200 cells, no cogging or burning, was actually a nice torquey motor, great acceleration. I then upgraded to a 6800, since I already had it. On the same 6cells, it was faster top end, little less low end, but really needed to be geared down (I was running a 24 tooth pinion).

Next I switched to the fun stuff, I purchased a second 5400, and added both esc and motor's, with 25 tooth pinions and a Apogee 1570 3cell pack. I used the Castle link to get the settings on both exactly where I wanted them, great stuff. Also, no motor's or esc's went up in flames. Next came dual 6800's, same effect, although I really wish I could have geared that up a little more. Even with the throttle curves set very conservatively it would flip from a 20 mph roll. Finally just for giggles, I added 2 8000's. That was just ridiculous, couldn't control it no matter what the settings. Very entertaining though, again, no esc's or motors died in this mayhem.

Recently I've ordered a Wraith, it should be here this week. I would like to get the truck back where it's actually drivable on all surfaces, rather than just up and down the parking lot due to the ridiculous speed and wheelie power. Although I'm sure in a month tmeptation will get the best of me...

BTW all this was done with a complete Monotuning kit, CAW axles and hex's, and 1/10th scale wheels and tires.

Another note, Shawn Palmer from Castle Creations did this quite awhile ago, and okayed it.

In summary, a Mamba can push a Mini Lst just fine, and is a nice upgrade over stock, just get some good cells, and more cells are always better than less. Also, two Mamba's are even more fun! And they don't "burn up". I find it hard to beleive I have "gotten lucky" so many different times, and for so long.

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Old 05-31-2006, 05:16 PM
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How you think two of these would do in a mini lst? http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXMUP3&P=RF
And what about two of these... http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXLBZ4&P=7

Hey Jrgunn5150 that looks sweet.
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How you think two of these would do in a mini lst? http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXMUP3&P=RF
And what about two of these... http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXLBZ4&P=7
those are 280 size motors, you need 370 size motors
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Normally, yes, but people have been running the Reedy motors with good results. I haven't heard anything about the other ones.

Aren't the Trinity Cobalts 280's also?
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Old 05-31-2006, 11:49 PM
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did your single mamba setup overheat the motor? and how your gears hold?
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Old 05-31-2006, 11:53 PM
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I have been looking for brush and brushless motors that work good in the mini lst so I now what to get when I get my mini lst. Any way I have only found a couple brush 370 size motors, but they don't sound like they are the best choice for me. On page two of this thread Inverted suggested some brush motors and some of them were 280 size motors. Well my point is can the mini lst use 280 size motors?
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Old 05-31-2006, 11:57 PM
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My Mamba didn't overheat ever, except when I got a bad esc in a new set. I never took temp readings, just touch, but never too hot too touch.

Yes the Mini Lst can use 280 can motors, that's Mamba and Reedy size.
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Old 06-01-2006, 12:23 AM
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Im converting to brushed, i'll do a report once done.
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Old 06-01-2006, 03:56 PM
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What motors are you gonna be using?
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SECRET! But Im expecting a great setup. The objective is low matienence, affordability, and a great all around setup.

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Inverted what charger do you use? With the stock battery and charger how long dose it take to charge?
I own a Dynamite Vision Peak Ultra, great charger for the $$$. The stock charger takes about 8 hours to charge the stock battery.
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sounds good, i wanna see how it compares to a brushless.
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Old 06-01-2006, 07:31 PM
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Its supposedly very efficient and has no matienence, yet works with the stock ESC, radio, etc....we'll see soon!
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Thats going to be cool, it's going to be hard to decide to go brush or brushless though.
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For me, it was never a choice. On one hand you have motors with no maintenance, no rebuilding, and better than nitro runtime.

On the other you have motor's which are either stock, reliable, little maintenance, and eventual rebuild/replacement, and slow with about 12 minutes runtime. Or you could go something hot like the Trinity Cobalts or Reedy's, then you're fast, great torque, but even more maintenance and rebuilds, and even less runtime.

To me brushless is the only reason I ever got back into electric's, and all of mine are brushless.
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My plans are to run the dual motors on a Dynamite 2 cell li-po. My hopes are to get a truck that is affordable, yet delivers good runtime and torque, while still delivering enough speed to be satisfied (hopefully will be a great combo that still holds the gears as well).
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My plans are to run the dual motors on a Dynamite 2 cell li-po. My hopes are to get a truck that is affordable, yet delivers good runtime and torque, while still delivering enough speed to be satisfied (hopefully will be a great combo that still holds the gears as well).
Thats is exactly what I want. I may go brushless later on, when I am done upgrading my touring car.
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As you know, my brushless was just way too powerful, let alone the fact this is a monster truck, not a touring car. 50 mph is just plain stupid for these vehicles. These brushed have no matienence (like brushless), and are supposedly supposed to deliver similar runtime as they are more efficient. To increase efficiency Deans plugs on the batteries and ESC, and I will hardwire the motors.
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Expect the motors to arrive between Friday-Tuesday, Wednesday at the latest.
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Old 06-02-2006, 12:32 AM
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Well keep us updated, especially me.
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