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Old 01-15-2008, 10:00 PM
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those shocks are for the inferno so they should work and about the length i could drill holes or move to a different hole on the shock tower and i just ordered them tonight
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Old 01-15-2008, 10:36 PM
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I got some mini inferno shocks off eBay. Didn't know they weren't oil filled. Don't even have seals. Woops. Hope yours are!
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Old 01-16-2008, 04:36 AM
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anyone want to upgrade to brushless and lipo? this is fasssst. this is a vendetta rc18t.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr0vu55bcJU
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Old 01-16-2008, 04:44 AM
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yea they are oil filled
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Old 01-16-2008, 06:00 AM
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Thats Amazing!!!!!!! Too fast for me!
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Old 01-16-2008, 08:20 AM
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yea iam going to go brushless with a123 li-ion cells instead.
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Old 01-16-2008, 08:46 AM
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However, I need to decrease the amount of teeth on the pinion so I don't burn the motor...
Burn the motor? Can that burn up the motor?
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Old 01-16-2008, 08:48 AM
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yea iam going to go brushless with a123 li-ion cells instead.
a123 Li-ion cells? Is that differnet from lipos?
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I think the motor might be under more strain with the larger wheels and tires if the pinoin and spur ratio isn't changed, ie: smaller pinion. Then, if you put in a brushless system, the drive train would be even more over geared so another step down would need to be done.

1,2,3 may refer to the number of cells in the LiPo pack... I'm running a 2cell LiPo and it has tons more torque than the stock NiMH, but the same top end when I race my friends.
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Did you need anything special to run lipos in our cars? I'm doing a cost analysis should I get some lipo cells and charger or brushless motor and speed controller? I'm compairing $$$ because I would be starting from scratch. I may leave it the way it is and save a buck. How much run time do you get with your lipos vs our 6 cells that came with it? (I never ran mine long enough to run down the batteries)
I must admit, I'm still a little lery about lipos, the whole catch on fire thing.
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Old 01-16-2008, 10:09 AM
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My main problem now is the drive gear in the diff housing. I'm on my second one and it's done now too. I land off the throttle and I can't figure out why I keep stripping teeth back there. The one pictured on Himoto looks darker. I wonder if it's a differnt material. [link=http://himotoracing.com/product/spare_part/86032.jpg]diff drive gear[/link]
I did some more research. Do you think the lipo is eating at your drivetrain? They are powerful. I have been reading that the people who run lipos (and brushless motors) in there vendettas should get the stronger gear sets or the gears will get eaten up.
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Old 01-16-2008, 10:33 AM
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I think the motor might be under more strain with the larger wheels and tires if the pinoin and spur ratio isn't changed, ie: smaller pinion. Then, if you put in a brushless system, the drive train would be even more over geared so another step down would need to be done.

1,2,3 may refer to the number of cells in the LiPo pack... I'm running a 2cell LiPo and it has tons more torque than the stock NiMH, but the same top end when I race my friends.
No it dose not refer to the number of cells their actually better that lipos here read this thread http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_6882402/tm.htm
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I'm thinking the LiPo has contributed to the gear problem. Hopefully, the different gears on Himoto are a better material. The LiPo I run is only a 900mah so it doesn't have as much run-time as our stock NiMH. I know you can get LiPo batteries that have over 2000mah which would be a very long run-time. I didn't have to change anything to run the LiPo on the Ferret. I did change the battery connectors to Ultra Plugs, but that's a personal preference. Running brushless would also increase run-time, depending on proper gearing of course... So far, I've had quite a few LiPo batteries and have had no fires. I did have a couple balloon up on me but that was about it. You just have to be careful and not over discharge them. They are also sensitive to cold temps too. But the extra power is very noticeable.

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THAT'S AWESOME! Can't wait to try the A123 batteries!
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Old 01-17-2008, 01:47 AM
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Update:

I rechecked the parts I ordered from Himoto and some of them were missing. I contacted them and they are looking into it. Also, on my second car, I changed the motor to the DuraTrax VR3 Ultra High rpm 380 Motor and a 19 tooth pinion gear. I can't really comment on my test run right now because the battery was only charged for an hour (on the stock 8-12 hour charger) and it was about 35-40 degrees outside. This was definitely not ideal test conditions. When we have another warm week I'll retest it and let you know. It did look faster, but it is hard to say (I was too cold to be a good observer[:-]).
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:47 AM
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So what parts did you get and did you put them on yet?
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Old 01-17-2008, 10:15 PM
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Went to microcenter today and they have like 30 left i wonder if they will drop the price even more if they don't sell
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Old 01-17-2008, 11:24 PM
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I ordered:

>>> 85003 - Front Upper Suspension Arms 2P (@USD 2.50) x 1 = USD 2.5
>>> 86004 - Front Lower Suspension Arms 2P (@USD 2.50) x 2 = USD 5
>>> 86005 - Rear Lower Suspension Arms 2P (@USD 2.50) x 2 = USD 5
>>> 86013 - Steering Hubs 2P (@USD 3.00) x 1 = USD 3

I didn't put them on yet. They are just spare parts. Hopefully I won't need them.
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Got my VR3 put on! Sort of nervous to try it. The pinion I ordered is a 20 tooth so I'm hoping it's not too much for the motor.

I totally rebuilt one of my Ferrets tonight. I was going to order all new parts from Himoto, but the most important parts I need have to come from Hong Kong. And now, Redcat is closed until they get their new warehouse in order. Any other sources you guys know of for these parts?
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What are the important parts you need?
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Old 01-18-2008, 12:08 AM
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28007 - Spur Gear 50T (@USD 3.50) x 4 = USD 14
28012 - drive Pinion 11T (@USD 2.50) x 2 = USD 5
85001 - Shock Absorbers 2P (@USD 6.00) x 2 = USD 12
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Got to try the VR3 today...pretty fast, but not quite what I thought it would be. Of course, I was only using a 7.4LiPo. I bet my 11volt will really get it going! It stripped out my remaining drive gear in the diff housing. It was already on it's way out before I put in the new motor. Guess I'll just have to bench it for a while...
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Was that with the 20 tooth pinion?
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Old 01-18-2008, 10:33 PM
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that sucks hope your parts get there
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Old 01-19-2008, 01:12 AM
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Yeah, it was with the 20t pinion. I put in the 11 volt LiPo and didn't see much difference. Especially not like the video posted on here of the Vendetta with the VR3. Maybe it's the scale? But for 15 bucks, it's a pretty good upgrade from the stock motor.

I cancelled my order from Himoto. 2 weeks for the parts from Hong Kong, and it's 15 bucks for shipping. I'll just buy another car...

We need to find better parts supply source. There has to be more suppliers with this many versions of our car on the market. Hopefully, if Redcat gets their act in gear and they start selling the electric Tremor, we'll have a stead supplier. But still, 50 bucks for an entire new car...sounds better than ordering individual parts and paying for shipping...to me anyways.
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