Well I went ahead and got the mongoose 13.5 and I have to say I am very pleased I am running the stock spur with a 14t pinion. With a 6cell nimh it still wheelies but is still controlable. I have to say I am pleased. I ran a full 1200 battery out over about 20 min and the esc and motor were warm and not even hot
new here - the ''Goose'' is a marvelous BL system for these mini cars and trucks, especially the Dettas, and put all the other foreign no-name brands to shame. get yourself a lipo pack and you'll really luv it.
i think the mongoose would be fine in the detta for smaller tracks,, or 18th scale tracks,, but not anything large,, i had a tough time keeping the one i had cool.. and that was gearing it as high as i could to not burn the motor out.. but that was just my experience with it.... it is faster than stock though and much smoother than my NEU/mamba max combo (which actually blows the doors off any other motor i have tried.. and stays much cooler.)
I have read your posts on other forums trashing the Mongoose systems, and then it appeared you disappeared for a while. Welcome back to the hobby.
But in your absense what everyone found was that there was an issue with the original
Mongoose motors overheating, BUT that has long since been solved and tons of guys are using them without any problems. Then again, most of us don't overgear them as you appear to prefer.
Gearing is one of those things some people don't understand; some are under the opinion that gearing is about having the car topping out at the end of the straightway
. That is fine if you are drag racing, but offroad/onroad racing your car is supposed to be topping out somewhere about 1/2 to 3/4 of the way down the straightaway.
Overmotoring is another thing. Again, it's fine if you are just drag racing or doing speed runs. But offroad/onroad racing is about matching the proper motor to the track you are running and not just bolting in the biggest motor you have on hand. It just leads to spinning your tires and wearing them out fast.
The other thing is that your only experience with these mini's is with running on huge tracks and leaping your cars 10 feet in the air, which few people do, and running crazy-speed NEU motors which really have no parallel to what the majority of people do with their mini's that aren't out to abuse them.
Perhaps it time you catch up with the current tech and talk, and not hold on to your 2-year-old ideas that are quite honestly outdated.
Out of all the races I've attended, I have never seen anyone run a NEU motor (at least that didn't run in the back because they couldn't control them) and out of all the people that I've heard having purchased a Mongoose in the last year or so no one has had the issues you had (unless they overgeared them). Maybe it's time you get up to speed with the rest of everybody. I run on a track that is the size of a basketball court, plenty large, and ran all season without a single issue or overheating problem.
If your thing is still speed runs up and down your street in front of your house or drag racing or showing off, that's cool. But it's not typical for 1/18th racing.
as i stated before.. the mongoose seems to be fine on a smaller track 18th scale... i dont have the luxury of driving on one so i drive on 10th scales.. also.. i have meet with and talked with others that have run the mongoose and had it geared with the mallest pinion that would fit and the largest spur they could use... and they still had over heating issues..
i ran the 13.5 as mentioned before.. and as i stated before.. it is a very smooth machine.. and with the gearing i was using i couldnt stop the motor or esc from over heating.. if i recall corretly i was using an 12/45 gearing..
im fully aware of back straights and gearing.. and when your motor should top out... im not some kid that goes out and just tries to drag race everyone.. although it may seem that way in my videos... i had the power to pull away or catch up so i used it.. and also the power was needed to clear doubles or triples... the same way everyone else was doing... i would watch the pro guys race.. i would study their lines and what they figured was the fastest way around the track and i would copy that.. if they took triples then i would.. if they duoble-single or single-double then i would do the same.. if they found a faster way through a rythmn section then i would do the same.... i enjoyed racing and i tried my best to stay out of other ppls way... no one ever complained about me being on the tracks..
as far as getting 10 feet in the air.. im not sure if i ever bot my detta that high.. but if i did atleast i was able to control it enough to land it with no problems,, just like everyone else.. i jumped just as high and just as far as everyone else on the track..
also a basketball size court is pretty big.. about the size as the 10th scale track i run on...
just for fun have you ever taken your detta on a larger track ,,, just to see what it could really do.... yes it is a 18th scale ,, but there is no need to lmit it to just 18th scale tracks... 10th scale guys dont limit themselves to ONLY 10th scale tracks,, they also run on 8th scale tracks..
this hobby is about having fun.. and no ''one'' system is the end all be all... i love my NEU motor.. it has stayed cool under pressure and has given me the power and speed that i need whenever i ask for it.. the mongoose came short.. but it was extremely smooth.. also the NEU 1105/1.5y is not the only motor that is made.. there is a complete line in the 1105 series and the 1107 series.. more options to choose from..
here is also a review i did on diff gears.. the steel ones... for qoisdhc oqina
there is a thread somewhere in this forum but i cant seem to find it