EricTyrrell

Does anyone know how the Neu 1110 series stacks up against the stock Velineon 380 motor? If it's better then I think I'd rather go with the 1110 than the 1112 in my 1/16 E-Revo.

rc18junky

all i can tell you is the Neu 1110 series is a better motor for sure hands down then the traxxas ...............................................

EricTyrrell

Why is that?

rc18junky

neu motors are the best in the rc world there are hand built and run smother and cooler and last longer. the traxxas are machine built and turned out buy the thousands in china. nue are all tested before sold traxxas leaves the testing to the costumer when you buy the car

Casper06

So Traxxas motors suck?

EricTyrrell

Thanks, but I'm more interested in a technical and real-world comparison.

rc18junky

compared to nue motors they do

Go-Zilla

For a starter, are you planning to run your MERV thru paddles of water ? The Velineon can take in water

EricTyrrell

It's used primarily for racing.

Go-Zilla

Neu is known for its efficiency, meaning it can run long enough without being overheating. I don't have a Neu, but I have a Medusa BL, comparing to those other mini BL motors out there, this type of BL motors really give out a great power but don't heat up as bad as others. You can just do a search on Google about Neu BL and you can see lots of references & spec details.

But for racing, you might want to double check with your track. Some tracks have requirements for racing specs.

Ttam Says Blarg

I would say the 125 dollar motor is going to be better than the 130 motor/esc vxl combo. I was looking at the prices for the Neu 1110 why is it so expensive?

Go-Zilla

Perhaps someone should start a wikipedia page about Steve Neu.

http://www.neumotors.com/Site/Picture_gallery.html

revo_sbs

My Feedback: (23)

My input. The traxxas velinion motor is a tank compared to the neu. I owned an 1107/1.5d for a while. I really can't speak since it was around 8300kv and had a larger diameter can size than the velinion motor. For video of the neu in my mini e-revo when I owned it search dettasbs on youtube.

If i was runnin my MERV in water I would not want to have the neu since it is not waterproof.

EricTyrrell

I don't run it in water so that's fine. So on the same battery how much more powerful is your 1107 than the VXL? Also, how does it compare temperature wise? Thanks.

revo_sbs

My Feedback: (23)

The Neu was much cooler tempurature wise. The neu ran around 120 while the Velinion got to around 180 to 200. That is with the sock gearing. Much more touque out of the neu. It reached top speed quicker.

EricTyrrell

That's almost hard to believe since the 1107 is quite a bit smaller and lighter correct? If so, that's just awesome. Thanks.

pubmaster861

what exact motor can be used with the stock esc?

pubmaster861

i mean of the neu motors of course. also where are some good sites to order these motors from?

revo_sbs

My Feedback: (23)

Yah. That motor was so tight though. I think it was because of the insane kv and the larger diameter can size. I ended up trading the motor to meatallover because I got rid of my mini e-revo. He would be the one to ask more questions about it.

EricTyrrell

Oh, how much larger? Did that cause any mounting issues?

rschoi_75

There are a few reasons why Neu's are much better than the stock velinion motors for a merv.

- 4 poles vs 2 poles: The Neu 11xx series are 4-pole motors vs the velinion, which is a re-badged feigao 2-pole motor. 4-pole motors offer smoother operation, more torque, and longer life.

- Higher efficiency: Neus are around 90% efficient where as the velinion/feigao is around 80% efficient. Higher efficiency translates to less power lost through heat, more power to your wheels, and longer run times.

- Build Quality: Neus are hand built with higher quality components (wires, magnets, housing, etc...) vs velineons which are factory built in large quantities. They are built to tighter tolerances and have much stricter quality control. Which is also why the price is significantly higher.

As for some of the other questions....

- Mounting shouldn't be a problem for the 1107 series. It should drop right in.
- The velineon 3m can only pull 32 amps constant as stated on traxxas' web site. I would not use any 1107 motor w/ the velineon 3m. Stick with the stock motor or sell the esc and buy a sidewinder 1/10th or mamba max.

revo_sbs

My Feedback: (23)

Yes. Velineon with Neu is no bueno.

EricTyrrell

Thanks guys. Yeah my MERV already has a MMP so a Neu 1100 series is noooo problem

Andrewg

Eric hi

heres the objective guff
1. the lamination material is inert
2. the laminations are very thin better still as reacts less with changes in fields in coils
3. the rotors are very well made and cf wrapped and balanced
4. Very low iron losses (idle amps) and low resistance. As iron losses are about half the chinese motors they are much more efficint especially at low amps where cars run. It also means they can be overvolted and still run hard and cool rather than run very hot.
5. On the dyno the 1100s have a torque output/amp better than most 540 motors of the same kv.
6. Neu specs are always very close to reality eg efficincy on 1100's is 83-86% depending on setup - while the chinese clain 85-90% they rarely get above low 70% meaninf they have about twice the waste heat.
7. The Neus are typically 30% lighter
8. Comparative dyno testing (quiet Flier back issues) shows them to be an exceptionally efficient and powerful motor across each motor range
9. The upshot is motors which when used in their proper efficiency range have exceptional torque efficiency power and power to weight figures


When you choose a NEU motor choose smaller/lighter than you would with Tekin etc. The Neu 1105 and 1107 are designed for the amp ranges you want - an 1105/2Y can pull 42 amps on 2S. The larger motors are for much higher power levels and will be operating outside their best efficiency and will weigh a lot more and add to cost.

jjl5590

I thought all brushless motors, by definition, were waterproof?