The 24 year itch
01-05-2015, 07:21 AM
#276
A work buddy ran the Vintage Modified circle track stuff. It was restricted to a 250 straight six. He took a 4" x 4" or maybe a 6" x 6" square steel tube, and welded flanges on each end to mount on the manifold and carb. I think it was about 8" high, but you could go as much as you want. I recall him saying it was worth the trouble. He may have upgraded to a big 4 barrel, I don't remember.
01-05-2015, 09:17 AM
#277
Klord, it was just a wild shot in the dark.
In 1976 I was stationed in Colorado, saw this car for sale in a back page ad in Hot Rod magazine. Showed it to a friend who lived in Dover and he knew the guy. We traveled back there to visit this friend's parents and so I could look at the car.
It had a few English Town Summer Nationals decals, so he must have run it from 1972 to when he sold it to me in 76.
L-88 427, HD clutch, Muncie 4 spd , 5:13 gears and M/T slicks.
The car looked nice, but years later it turned out to be a rust bucket that was already rusty and mangled back when it was "restored" by this guy Jim Andrews. He only stood 5'4" or 5'5" and it was a wonder how he was able to see over the tall hood.
The engine was done by Jenkins Performance, it had the General Kinetics cam and rev kit. The carbs were a pair of 715s which was an odd size. The L-88 had huge and pretty straight ports. You would need to be pretty insane to think they needed to be opened up any more..!
Back when the car was taken off the street by Andrews, it was only a few years old and already had to be dilapidated with rust everywhere. By the time I re-did the whole works in 1979, it was pretty shocking to see how much Bondo and rust was under what was still a pretty straight looking car on top. Being from California, I had never seen such a young car in worse shape underneath.
In 1976 I was stationed in Colorado, saw this car for sale in a back page ad in Hot Rod magazine. Showed it to a friend who lived in Dover and he knew the guy. We traveled back there to visit this friend's parents and so I could look at the car.
It had a few English Town Summer Nationals decals, so he must have run it from 1972 to when he sold it to me in 76.
L-88 427, HD clutch, Muncie 4 spd , 5:13 gears and M/T slicks.
The car looked nice, but years later it turned out to be a rust bucket that was already rusty and mangled back when it was "restored" by this guy Jim Andrews. He only stood 5'4" or 5'5" and it was a wonder how he was able to see over the tall hood.
The engine was done by Jenkins Performance, it had the General Kinetics cam and rev kit. The carbs were a pair of 715s which was an odd size. The L-88 had huge and pretty straight ports. You would need to be pretty insane to think they needed to be opened up any more..!
Back when the car was taken off the street by Andrews, it was only a few years old and already had to be dilapidated with rust everywhere. By the time I re-did the whole works in 1979, it was pretty shocking to see how much Bondo and rust was under what was still a pretty straight looking car on top. Being from California, I had never seen such a young car in worse shape underneath.
01-05-2015, 09:40 AM
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YUP CP!!!! That's the good old Northeast for ya. With all the salt and other stuff put down nothing lasts. And when you sprinkle in a unibody car it wreaks havoc!!! Love the first gen Camaro's. Just don't love the amount of work to restore one..
01-05-2015, 09:51 AM
#280
I had a 1969 Camaro that I bought when it was 8 years old. The back wheel wells were rusted out and dented from the tires hitting them. Had a 1967 Cougar just before that and the front fenders were rusted so bad on the top surface, that I had to redo them. They had already been done once. I am glad the cars are much better now. My 2005 Sunfire is really almost as fast as the old Camaro with the 2 barrel 327, gets better mileage, and isn't rusty yet.
01-05-2015, 09:58 AM
#281
There is a company stamping out brand new 1969's.....and IIRC they are at a price that sounds well worth it.
I wish Chevrolet would just bring the exact replica body back instead of the crude looking things you see today that look like "Corgi Toy" replicas.
I wish Chevrolet would just bring the exact replica body back instead of the crude looking things you see today that look like "Corgi Toy" replicas.
01-05-2015, 10:01 AM
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In Ontario there is no such thing as "not rusty". The roads are made of salt with gravel sprinkled on top for traction. When I travel to the southern US, I can hardly recognize half the cars on the road since most of them dissolved 20 years ago up here.
01-05-2015, 11:03 AM
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I have owned over a dozen first gen Camaro's. And not one of them didn't need some sort of attention in the rear quarter area as well as trunk and down let areas. My neighbor has a 2013 SS Camaro. He let me drive it this past summer. Very impressed with the motor. But really cramped for space not like the older Camaro's. My head was rubbing on the head liner.
01-05-2015, 11:05 AM
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You are right CP. Although I wasn't to happy about my pick up. I bought a F250 crew cab new in 2007. And had to get rid of it this past year. The bed and rocker area was totally gone.
01-05-2015, 01:36 PM
#286
I'm surprised to hear that because they've been making the F Series trucks for so many years now and they have a reputation that is always at stake.. My 1982 F150 needs a "cowl off" restoration since it has sat outside collecting pine needles and mud since it was new.
I think the new "retro" Mustang and Challenger are barely passable in the looks department, but they still look "cartoonish" to me. The new Camaro is butt ugly, even though it resembles what it once was....a timeless classic. Too bad, since the mechanicals have never been better.
I think the new "retro" Mustang and Challenger are barely passable in the looks department, but they still look "cartoonish" to me. The new Camaro is butt ugly, even though it resembles what it once was....a timeless classic. Too bad, since the mechanicals have never been better.
01-05-2015, 08:14 PM
#287
Back when I lived in CT rust repair was a forgone conclusion. The mustangs needed rear quarters, fenders, floors, and sub frames. The camaros and firebirds were almost as bad but the sub frames were better. But once they went to the wide body in 71-73 you added in the rear window. I think the chevelles had the worst rear window of all. They would just about fall out. I think the trim was the only thing holdingthem in. Since I moved to Florida I haven't done a rust repair in almost 30 years. Can't say that I miss it.
01-05-2015, 09:31 PM
#288
I've heard the same about Chevelle back windows. I suppose it carries over to Skylarks, GTOs, Lemans, etc...?
A couple local shops always have cars bolted into their rotisseries and the extent of the work is practically without any limits on some models. These are all cars that have owners already. Owners with bigger hearts than brains.
A couple local shops always have cars bolted into their rotisseries and the extent of the work is practically without any limits on some models. These are all cars that have owners already. Owners with bigger hearts than brains.
01-06-2015, 05:56 AM
#289
I don't see any 1982 F150s or anything that old any more. Wonder how the new aluminum bodies will hold up. Usually aluminum doesn't rust, it just disappears. I still use my 87 Astro van for errands, and it is past time to do the rockers again. The trailer hitch mount almost fell off for the second time. The only reason I keep it is because it is old enough to not need an emission test. I try real hard not to drive it in the salt. When I go to Florida, I always want to take a car or ten home with me. Too bad there are the border Nazis. I started with fiberglass street rods, and musclish cars when I was about 18. I really got sick of rusty cars fast.
03-10-2015, 01:16 PM
#290
http://youtu.be/-1_XLt0H37w
Well....what was learned from this project..?
The Pacer design flies just fine on .061 power and a 5.7 x 3 prop. I had the advantage of really light radio gear to allow prtty close to unlimited vertical. I never got around to cranking the elevons up enough to do fast rolls.
For years I didn't want to build either the Pacer or the Mach None, figuring that they would perform pathetically. I'm happy enough with the way this one flew to build a new wing out of 100% wood. The fuselage came out of the crash OK.
The little 2 cell LIFE pack only had 3.4 volts on it in spite of being charged last night and only having 15 minutes of idle time on it today. The pack looks crunched on the end that was sitting towards the front....I had it velcro'd behind the tank, It's hard to guess what the chain of events was, but the plane lost both channels at the same time. All the connectors were found still plugged in, but simply not enough voltage for anything to operate. What a relief it was to see it crash before leaving the yard..!
The Pacer design flies just fine on .061 power and a 5.7 x 3 prop. I had the advantage of really light radio gear to allow prtty close to unlimited vertical. I never got around to cranking the elevons up enough to do fast rolls.
For years I didn't want to build either the Pacer or the Mach None, figuring that they would perform pathetically. I'm happy enough with the way this one flew to build a new wing out of 100% wood. The fuselage came out of the crash OK.
The little 2 cell LIFE pack only had 3.4 volts on it in spite of being charged last night and only having 15 minutes of idle time on it today. The pack looks crunched on the end that was sitting towards the front....I had it velcro'd behind the tank, It's hard to guess what the chain of events was, but the plane lost both channels at the same time. All the connectors were found still plugged in, but simply not enough voltage for anything to operate. What a relief it was to see it crash before leaving the yard..!
03-10-2015, 04:36 PM
#293
Yes indeed, this is the Charger that is marketed to go with the little 2 cell packs. I think the pack was squished while riding in the Cyclon Blink. I only designed enough room behind the firewall to fit the fuel cell and the battery pack side by side. It ended up being a "press in fit" for the battery.
In other words, I'm taking the rap for this battery's premature demise. I had already used it enough to know that it was good for much more use than this before pooping out.
How about that Pacer...? With a rudder [and another ounce to make that happen] this plane would be fun to play "Mr. White Pants Team Futaba Pattern Dude" with...!.
In other words, I'm taking the rap for this battery's premature demise. I had already used it enough to know that it was good for much more use than this before pooping out.
How about that Pacer...? With a rudder [and another ounce to make that happen] this plane would be fun to play "Mr. White Pants Team Futaba Pattern Dude" with...!.
03-11-2015, 10:56 AM
#298
It's mostly built out of really light but crumbly SIG contest grade. It's got almost no grain structure, you can easily snap it cross grain as you can with the grain. I'm still learning where it's OK to use this stuff. I'd rather work with medium grade for most things unless it's really thick slabs that are mainly to create a shape.
03-11-2015, 12:22 PM
#300
Yes, even if the throttle had a spring loaded return that was just enough to close it.
You would need to monitor the servo's current drain while holding against something like a ball point pen spring.
When the grass is 4 to 5 feet tall, that plane doesn't even reach the ground at such a shallow angle, being lightweight and fairly long inspan.
You would need to monitor the servo's current drain while holding against something like a ball point pen spring.
When the grass is 4 to 5 feet tall, that plane doesn't even reach the ground at such a shallow angle, being lightweight and fairly long inspan.