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Old 07-23-2004, 06:53 PM
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Default Homemade Gaskets ???

I have a couple of old Enya engines I'm dinkin around with. All the gaskets are toast or completly gone. I'm not even going to waste my time looking for obscure parts like this. These engines are both 70's vintage. I'm looking for suggestions for materials (easy to find,common ect.) for use in cutting my own gaskets, both the paper and copper. Any help is appreciated as alwayse.

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Old 07-23-2004, 06:58 PM
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Default RE: Homemade Gaskets ???

I used some thin brass sheet from the LHS I can't remember the brand name, but its on a little display rack with tubing, etc. You can cut it with scissors or a sharp exacto and it seems to work well on the bigger engines I used it on.

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Old 07-23-2004, 07:26 PM
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Default RE: Homemade Gaskets ???

HI DARREN! You can get head shims from an engine that is close in size. I have seen a guy take cuticule scissors and whip out head shims. If you are looking for paper gasket material, visit a lawn mower shop.
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Sounds crazy but I used to use aluminum foil when racing motorcycles, worked
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Old 07-23-2004, 07:38 PM
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Default RE: Homemade Gaskets ???

I had a K-boodle of Cox paper gaskets for the crankcase laser cut up about two years ago.

Comes out substantially cheaper to make them yourself.


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Default RE: Homemade Gaskets ???

Duke,


a backplate type gasket can be made from a playing card!!

Later,
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Old 07-23-2004, 08:26 PM
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I simply use file folder cardboard and make the inner hole for the backplate with a round hammer tapping lightly in the edges, then the screw holes with the point of a round tip allen key. I do all this in the engine taking care not to move the card board. Then install the back plate and cut the excess card with an X-acto knife.
Works really well.
It´s hard to find replacement gaskets in Mexico.
Old 07-23-2004, 09:29 PM
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Bolio,

I was going to say that too. They are called manilla folders. My dad did it the same way.
Old 07-23-2004, 10:12 PM
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Auto parts stores have sheets of various types of gasket material.

Here is a circle cutter I use for gaskets. A hole punch takes care of the screw holes.

It fits in the chuck of a drill press.
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Default RE: Homemade Gaskets ???

ORIGINAL: Tim Wiltse-RCU
a backplate type gasket can be made from a playing card!!

Later,
Tim
I prefer playing cards, too. The burnished surface seems to keep them from swelling as much as the other material and makes the screw hole edges a little sharper. Cut screw holes with sharpened brass tubing. Larger holes can be cut with larger tubing or if you reload ammunition or have a friend that reloads, various calibers will have different sized case mouths - these can be sharpened and used to cut holes in paper.

The better auto parts houses will also carry brass shim stock in various thickness -- can be had in very thin stock, sometimes in increments of .005"

the "other" Andrew
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I just go to the local auto shop and get sheets of gasket material. I got this one pack that comes with a sheet of cork, some special paper, and two thicknesses of gasket material. Really handy, and they last a while too!
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ORIGINAL: Dan Vincent

Auto parts stores have sheets of various types of gasket material.

Here is a circle cutter I use for gaskets. A hole punch takes care of the screw holes.

It fits in the chuck of a drill press.
Neat gizmo! Where did you get it?

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Old 07-28-2004, 05:52 PM
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Jess,

I got mine from a guy who had a booth at a model airplane contest. It cost $5.00.

The brand name is "MORN."

If you find one, set up your drill press for slow speed and cut lightly.

Pin down your gasket material so it cannot shift. Cut the inner hole first, working out to the outer hole as the final cut.

There are spare blades in a compartment on the back of the circle cutter.

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Default RE: Homemade Gaskets ???

Back when, I found the Enya gaskets to be about .006" thick. Could not find that thickness of material, but did find .005" to cut from at the big cost of $1 per running foot. The head gaskets measure out to be about .003" each.

If you substitute thicker materials, such as a playing card of about .014" to .016", then you will be reducing the crankcase compression a bit and thus not permitting a full hard charge of fuel/air to get up to the combustion chamber. Considering you may have a bit of leakage out the crankshaft bearings already, I would think it best to maintain as small as crankcase volume as possible. With a low crankcase pressure, the engine may tend to only want to run in a rich condition, and not rev up to where it was in the older days.


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Default RE: Homemade Gaskets ???

For thin gaskets, I use a dollar bill. U. S. paper money is the strongest paper I have found. If the gasket is small enough like Cox .049 or .020 tank gasket, then I clip off the corner of a fairly new bill. Put it against the crankcase & poke a hole for the pack plate screw. I then use short screws to hold the gasket to the crankcase and use a new or really sharp Xacto #11 blade to cut the crankcase hole. Trim the outside edges and gasket is done. It is extremely strong and fuel does not seem to weaken it.
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Default RE: Homemade Gaskets ???

for backplates or front housings i dont use a gasket. a few wraps of teflon tape snugged up to the inside corner against the flange works just fine. just make sure you still have some clearance between the backplate and crankpin.


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Default RE: Homemade Gaskets ???

Here's my feedback, I cut my head gaskets w/ cutile sisors and used a playing card for the case gasket. I used the Joker, is that going to be strong enough? HA. Thanks to all who responded for there great advice. I took the old Enya out to the test stand and once I got the needle figured out ( 1-1/4 turns is rich, wow) I can start the thing on a couple of flips. I don't have a starter that can turn a .19. Man this thing is LOUD though. It idles great, so low I think its going to die, and has good transition to full throttle. I'm putting it in a 47" spacewalker I'm working on. We will see how it turns out.

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