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Old 10-27-2004, 07:00 AM
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Default A Bit Of Cox Nostalgia On The Tee Dee .010

Here also for you history buffs is the first MAN engine review on the newly released Cox Tee Dee .010 from the April 1961 MAN magazine issue. I have posted the complete article on the 1/2A All The Way site. Enjoy. NOTE: The first few paragraphs mention the creation of the "1/2A" designation. Enjoy!

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How about a link to the 1/2A all the way site.
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Old 10-27-2004, 09:49 AM
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Default RE: A Bit Of Cox Nostalgia On The Tee Dee .010

Sorry, forgot the site address. it is: http://groups.msn.com/12Aalltheway

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Old 10-30-2004, 11:25 PM
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We COX history buffs greatly appreciate your new thread on the COX TEE DEE .010 ENGINE. Your new thread finally lays to rest the myth that the older COX TEE DEE .010 ENGINE, with the integral red tank or red engine mount/backplate and gold anodized crankcase and drive plate, outperforms the newer black tank COX TEE DEE .010 ENGINE.

The late, great P. G. F. Chinn, who did the 1961 review on the COX TEE DEE .010 ENGINE for Model Airplane News, was one of our hobby's greatest and most respected authorities on model airplane engines. He did engine reviews for MAN, over a period of decades. We can trust his word! In the e-mail you sent us, Chinn stated in his August, 1961 review of the COX TEE DEE .010 ENGINE that: "...we obtained 27,200 on the standard prop [3"D x 1.25"P], although, under most favorable climatic conditions, nearly 28,000 had been seen." This SAME rpm performance also was reported in the model magazines, by other famous modelers, in 1961 and later.
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Old 11-02-2004, 09:02 PM
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Hmmm....MSN tells me this in thot a good group site: the site address. it is: http://groups.msn.com/12Aalltheway.



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Old 11-02-2004, 09:25 PM
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Try this http://groups.msn.com/12Aalltheway

There was a period "." at the end of the URL that was preventing it from working.
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Old 11-03-2004, 09:53 AM
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Thanks, Bipe Flyer! Got it.

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27,000rpm hummmm... I guess the report in Flying Models is false as it states 32,000 with some throttle thing on it!
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Old 11-03-2004, 12:42 PM
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I tached mine at 28,000.
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I'll tach the Purple Stik and let you folks know... that TEE DEE SCREAMS !!!!


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How come I can only get about 24,000 out of my red and gold one? It's not even quite as powerful as my Black one! It has like new compression, and all parts seem to be in good shape with the exception of a very small crack in the neck of the carb body. The crack is still sealed and really doesn't seem to affect performance at all. I do, however, have a new carb body on the way just for good measure. Anybody got any ideas? Come to think of it, I've never even been able to get 28,000 out of the black one. I use 35% fuel and the stock black prop. What's the story here?

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I haven't run my red and gold one and I've only tached 1 of my black ones. It was when I was playing around with an exhaust throttle. I was using 25% nitro and 20% castor with the grey prop and a new head.
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ORIGINAL: Tim Wiltse-RCU

Per the test in the 79' Aeromodeller they tached it at 27,400rpm saying it was capable of going over 30,000

But from the 61' Aeromodeller with 30% nitro they tached one at over 35,000
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In which monthly issue of Aeromodeller did you get this information? Could you please provide us with more details.

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Old 11-04-2004, 03:48 AM
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27,000rpm hummmm... I guess the report in Flying Models is false as it states 32,000 with some throttle thing on it!
As your previous contribution to the RCU FORUM clearly indicates, Randy Randolph's report on the top-end 32k rpm performance of the MICRO-FLITE/COX TD .010 "R/C" ENGINE, in his SMALL TALK column in the November, 2004 issue of FLYING MODELS, is NOT false! Also, in the December, 2004 issue of FLYING MODELS Randy stated: "Last month we told you about the new MICRO-FLITE COX .010 with its great new throttle... with its patented throttle sleeve the MICRO-FLITE/COX .010 (above left) can idle reliably and then run up to 35k rpm. Quite impressive and welcome news for COX afficionados."

Again, based on the previous information that you provided to the RCU FORUM, Randy's statement is not false, even though we have never claimed 35k to Randy or in any of our advertising. What we need to discuss on the FORUM is what is actually being claimed by Aeromodeller, MODEL AIRPLANE NEWS, FLYING MODELS, etc.! Later!

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Gees some guy just don't get it. How many of us here sell prducts geared towards the 1/2a crowd? Lets see Bipe Flyer, BobHarris, ptulmer, AJC, Steve Adams, Deadstik and myself to name just a few. Yet we some how by the grace of god can find the power to post something other than self promotion..weird I just don't know how we do it.
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ORIGINAL: Tim Wiltse-RCU

But from the 61' Aeromodeller with 30% nitro they tached one at over 35,000

Please, Tim:

"1/8A" Modelers are very interested in knowing which 1961 monthly issue of Aeromodeller that reported a 35k top-end for the COX TEE DEE .010 ENGINE. We would really like to know the test conditions in obtaining this super high top-end rpm. Please share this information with us!!

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Tim, its not worth the trouble.

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ORIGINAL: Tim Wiltse-RCU

But from the 61' Aeromodeller with 30% nitro they tached one at over 35,000
Please, Tim:

There is no "trouble" in sharing information on how to get the highest performance with our COX TEE DEE .010 ENGINES. Please share what you know with the rest of us members on the RCU FORUM. We all would be very grateful!

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Ever seen that Bill Murray movie "Ground Hog Day"?
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Ever seen that Bill Murray movie "Ground Hog Day"?
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AJC,

I hope all goes well tomorrow! You will never be so happy and so scared all at the same time!

As for the 61' TD .010 report TIM WILTSE-RCU will be posting that information shorty. TIM WILTSE-RCU has an archive of information at the TIM WILTSE-RCU home office. TIM WILTSE-RCU is waiting to hear from JIMBOB SMITH-RCU to make their report on which issue of the 61' Aeromodeller this information is in instead of posting it himself. TIM WILTSE-RCU posted this information a long time ago on the RCU FORUMS when TIM WILTSE-RCU found it on a Cox collectors website from Germany. TIM WILTSE-RCU does not see the point in which issue it was in anyways as a report is a report is a report. Newer information was posted here on the RCU FORUMS that in the DECEMBER issue of FLYING MODELS that the Cox .010 will run 35,000rpm so who cares what issue of Aeromodeller JIMBOB SMITH-RCU finds the old info in as it's not like someone would use that information on the RCU FORUMS to hype a product or something anyways.
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Good luck AJ. (you'll need it)

BobHH- Thanks, that was pretty cool for a young'en like me to read.
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On one of the TV shows about small surveillance airplanes, I noticed a TD 010 with a tuned pipe.

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AJC, I forgot the big day is among us. Good luck!!!

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According to the Ron Warring review of the TD 010 in the October 1961 Aeromodeller, peak HP is @.028 at 32,000. The supplied Cox prop turned 27,000. Fuel used was Record Super Nitrex. It is not clear how the figures were derived as there are statements that the testing equipment was inadequate to test such a small engine at such high RPM's. The engine was said to run well on larger props up to 6 x 3.

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MISCONDUCT: ABUSIVE LANGUAGE

ORIGINAL: ptulmer

You know what? I just slammed my finger in my van door. I came inside to read some new posts and found this thread at the top.(also to give my finger time to quit hurting) After seeing the sheer number of posts put in by MF, I thought "I'd rather go slam my finger in the door again, than unblock MF and see what this ******* is writing again."(think donkey)


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