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Old 11-01-2004, 11:13 PM
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Default RE: 1/2A trainer anyone?

The "LST" is a nice choice -- Lynn was partial to the high wing Simple Series -- I think he would like it. He flew the 1/2A SST, so why not the 1/2A LST.
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Old 11-01-2004, 11:44 PM
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Default RE: 1/2A trainer anyone?

LST seems like a natural.

I was thinking of these too:
LS Trainer
LS 40 (40" span)
LS 101 (101cm span)
LS .049
LS Special
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Old 11-02-2004, 07:58 PM
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LST seems like a natural.

I was thinking of these too:
LS Trainer
LS Special

i like LS trainer but LS special seems more like a dedication to me...after all it will be in Lynn's memory...

what you guys think???

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Old 11-22-2004, 12:53 PM
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Any updates ?. Regards.

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Old 11-22-2004, 01:11 PM
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Where can I get those plans from! I'm game baby!
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Old 11-22-2004, 01:24 PM
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Default RE: 1/2A trainer anyone?

Me too! me too!

BTW - Bipe, I saw in other posts that you developed a "tile print" program. How can I get a copy?
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Old 11-22-2004, 02:59 PM
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You can find more info on Tile Printing and the program on the following site. Also some GREAT free plans to. For the tile print info scroll towards the bottom. Hope this helps!
[link]http://my.pclink.com/~dfritzke/[/link]
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Old 11-23-2004, 01:45 PM
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Thanks! [8D] Nice site!
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Old 11-23-2004, 03:34 PM
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No problem. Yep, he's got lots of nice old time plans posted. Gonna have to build some, one of these days. Some are tiled too, and the best part, they are free. Very nice of him to do that
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Old 11-23-2004, 04:11 PM
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Free is ALWAYS good!
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hows those trainer plans going?
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Old 01-03-2005, 01:57 AM
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Default RE: 1/2A trainer anyone?

The plan is done.

RCU resized the plan when I uploaded it, but you can get a high res version from the "1/2A all the way!" group under "Documents" > "Plans".

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The 1/2A All the Way MSN site is gone, so here are new links to the plans.

http://donatelli.net/LST.zip
http://donatelli.net/LST-Laser-parts.zip
If you have Tile Print, you can use it to print the GIF, otherwise you can use the PDF version.

When printing the PDF version, make sure that "Page Scaling" is set to "none" and "Choose Paper Source by PDF page size" is unchecked.

If anyone builds it, please post pictures.

EDITED to include the current plans links- bcm
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Old 01-03-2005, 12:57 PM
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Great job. I'll post some pictures when I'm done[8D]
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Old 01-03-2005, 07:17 PM
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What type of wood do you use for the sides of the fuse.? Theres some Balsa 1/8" sheet, and theres 'Lite ply' 1/8" plywood. The plywood sure is expensive though. 12 bucks(Canadian) for a 12"x 48" piece. maybe I'll stick with balsa if theres no strenght issues with using it.

Oh...and what type of glue do you use(havent built a plane before)? I have some medium CA glue. do I need any epoxy or will it hold with just the CA?

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Old 01-03-2005, 07:40 PM
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The plans show 3/32" balsa. Only use plywood for the firewall and balsa everywhere else. Also add a couple of pieces of tri-stock behid th firewall Only use CA, you shouldn't need any epoxy for this plane except maybe the firewall. If you build it with ailerons, put .75" dihedral on each wing tip. If you build it without ailerons, use 1.75" diheadral on each tip.
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Old 01-03-2005, 08:17 PM
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I put in a order for the wood just now going to go pick it up tomorrow.
This project Is going to be fun to build

Happy flying/building
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Old 01-04-2005, 01:04 AM
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Default RE: 1/2A trainer anyone?

Bipe Flyer,
What did you name it there on 1/2 A all the way? The LST? I do agree that he'd be all over it. Here's to you, Archie.
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Old 01-04-2005, 01:16 AM
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Yes, it is named "LST 1/2A Trainer".
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Old 01-04-2005, 01:35 AM
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Default RE: 1/2A trainer anyone?

Okay now Bipe Flier.....I'll need some 1/2A floats or skis to go on this thing! *LOL* How long for those accessories to come out? *EG*
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Old 01-04-2005, 01:43 AM
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I just so happens that I made a DAT file for cutting floats on my foam cutter.
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Hi Bipe, I've never scratch built anything or from plans only. You make me want to try it. I'm not too computer savvy and don't know what programs or other stuff I need to get plans from sites. I love Kadets, learned to fly on a Kadet Jr. in the 70's. I had a tough time learning on 3 channels though but did'nt know better until I flew an aileron equipped Ace alpha 15. Now that was fun! I've saved rudder only skills for gliders. Anyway, I want to scratch build something 1/2 A for a Norvel .061 that I'm going to have to buy myself since santa screwed me over and brought me a Zenoah instead.

If it turns out good, maybe I'll learn to scale it up so I can use the zenoah if not , I'll turn it into an edger or mount it on a bicycle. Please point me to the website that explains cad. I miss LS too.

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Oh yeah, which button do I hit to post pictures?
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Old 01-04-2005, 11:59 PM
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I think that it would be best with 4 channels and a Norvel .074. DuBro makes a steerable nosewheel that should work nicely.

You don't need a CAD program to print it. It is already tiled in the PDF file or, if you prefer, I have a program that can resize it.

If you want a good CAD program that is easy to learn, try Turbocad. They used to have a free version at http://www.turbocad.com , but I can't find it there anymore. The free version I have is 5.1 from 1998, but you can get version 8 for around $10 on eBay.
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Old 01-05-2005, 12:38 AM
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Hey Bipe, what about a mod page with a conventional gear? I've always prefferred conventional as I feel it's tougher in a hard landing and sure doesn't transfer the shock to the rudder servo like a nose gear does in a tough one. Some of the folks looking to build may prefer that option.

It's nice to see that extra size and wing area to help slow it down too. And finally a suggestion that folks start with a 7x3 to further help slow the model down as well.
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Old 01-05-2005, 01:18 AM
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Default RE: 1/2A trainer anyone?

IMO, the only thing that a trike has over a taildragger is that it is easier to learn takeoffs with. To make it a taildragger, just move the mounting blocks for the mains up to the second former.


With an .074, a 7X3 is definitely the right choice.
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Old 01-05-2005, 01:36 AM
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Default RE: 1/2A trainer anyone?

Can I ask why you decided to make it 4 channel?

I would have thought a nice 3 channel job would have made it a easy flier.

More dihedral makes for less stress
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