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How about a really nice little Cox piston socket reseting tool and anvil? I did this up for some guys that were wondering how to make their own that I mentioned and thought you guys may like an extra project to justify the cost of all those fancy machining tools. I can send out a DXF file as well but PM me with your email addy for that.
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Bruce,
Thank you very much. I have been searching and can only find over priced three-bay stuff. I whish more like this were posted such as the 049/051 throttle. I am sure there are many of us 1/2A nuts that will not have a problem with projects like this. Again, many thanks.
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Thank you very much. I have been searching and can only find over priced three-bay stuff. I whish more like this were posted such as the 049/051 throttle. I am sure there are many of us 1/2A nuts that will not have a problem with projects like this. Again, many thanks.
Gene
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How about a really nice little Cox piston socket reseting tool and anvil? I did this up for some guys that were wondering how to make their own that I mentioned and thought you guys may like an extra project to justify the cost of all those fancy machining tools. I can send out a DXF file as well but PM me with your email addy for that.
How about a really nice little Cox piston socket reseting tool and anvil? I did this up for some guys that were wondering how to make their own that I mentioned and thought you guys may like an extra project to justify the cost of all those fancy machining tools. I can send out a DXF file as well but PM me with your email addy for that.
But a question? The (my) Cox anvil isn't flat on the bottom. I can't measure it direct (it's in the bottom of a well) but by eyeballing my caliper there is a 0.22 to 0.23 dia raised contact area. Would guess that is to support the piston directly under the socket and to help prevent warps? Any thoughts?
Thanks for sharing, I will make piston clamps for all (3) of my reset tools.
Al Lenz
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Yeah, but if you don't have a lathe ( like me ), you just get a $2 set of Chinese hollow point punches from your local bagain store, and cut the slot in the side of the nose of one the appropriate diameter, then grind or file the sharp point flat and bell mouthed. Worked for me since last century. I used to use the lathe at work, but since retiring, I have to improvise. Nicely detailed drawing Bruce, I'll save that one.
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I'm sure that raised spot is to support the middle of the crown just as you suspect. I just checked the two pistons I used to make the drawing from last night and the brand new one is slightly convex and the used one is slightly concave. Both have a very slight nib in the middle. On the concave one the nib is still higher than the edges. Probably nothing to worry about as I'm sure there's lots of us like Vauxhall that have used any handy flat area to back the pistons up. But I may just make my anvils with a slight pedistal in the center to be that little bit better.
Thanks for the info.
For the more imaginitive among us you'll already realize that all this can be done with basic hand tools and a little patience. The end center drill could be used with some careful center marking and an electric hand drill and the rod cut done with a hacksaw. Even the turning down of the 3/8 rod can be done with the rod in the drill and a file. Or for that matter totally by hand with a vise and a file. It won't be as pretty but it'll do the job and that's what counts.
Thanks for the info.
For the more imaginitive among us you'll already realize that all this can be done with basic hand tools and a little patience. The end center drill could be used with some careful center marking and an electric hand drill and the rod cut done with a hacksaw. Even the turning down of the 3/8 rod can be done with the rod in the drill and a file. Or for that matter totally by hand with a vise and a file. It won't be as pretty but it'll do the job and that's what counts.
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Having been making these for a while Bruce (I still get guys regularly asking for them) in all sizes from .010 to .15. I used tomake the anvil from steel, with a relieved rim like the original cox ones, but now I just use aluminum for the anvil. Kustom Kraftsmanship's ones used aluminum with no relief. As long as the piston is sitting flat on a smooth surface you are fine.
I will even give you my secret to bluing the reset tool - I heat the parts with my oxy/acet torch untill a dull red and quench in motor oil, repeat. This gives a nice deep blue finish to the steel.
I also make the reset tool from hex stock ala the cox ones, round is harder to hold in the milling vise to cut the reliefe groove for the rod.
AJC
I will even give you my secret to bluing the reset tool - I heat the parts with my oxy/acet torch untill a dull red and quench in motor oil, repeat. This gives a nice deep blue finish to the steel.
I also make the reset tool from hex stock ala the cox ones, round is harder to hold in the milling vise to cut the reliefe groove for the rod.
AJC
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Two words for that.... collet chuck....
Actually the hex bit is a great idea. But I'd have to buy the stock while I've got some 3/8 drill rod stock looking for a function in life.
Actually the hex bit is a great idea. But I'd have to buy the stock while I've got some 3/8 drill rod stock looking for a function in life.
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Bruce,
I notice in your plans that the impact part of the tool is conical. The one on my Davis resetting tool is hemispherical. Have you compared the two designs? I asked this question on another forum but so far have not gotten an answer.
In all fairness, my resetting tool is about 25 or so years old. Perhaps Davis is using another design now.
AJ,
I'm guessing that your tools are conical. I would assume that the conical type would require less force to reset the socket.
Thanks guys.
George
I notice in your plans that the impact part of the tool is conical. The one on my Davis resetting tool is hemispherical. Have you compared the two designs? I asked this question on another forum but so far have not gotten an answer.
In all fairness, my resetting tool is about 25 or so years old. Perhaps Davis is using another design now.
AJ,
I'm guessing that your tools are conical. I would assume that the conical type would require less force to reset the socket.
Thanks guys.
George
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After many delays and other projects that had to be fit into the schedule I finally got them done.....
A couple are not yet spoken for if anyone is interested.
A couple are not yet spoken for if anyone is interested.
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Bruce:
One of them is mine. How do I get it in my door?
Bill.
Bruce:
One of them is mine. How do I get it in my door?
Bill.
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Okay, Bruce. You and the Pigg have proven yourselves a pair of wise guys.
I'm sure you both knew I was asking for ordering and payment instructions.
Bill.
PS: You're both on THE LIST now. Bruce can get off by sending me one of the tools, the Pigg is SOL. Haw. wr.
I'm sure you both knew I was asking for ordering and payment instructions.
Bill.
PS: You're both on THE LIST now. Bruce can get off by sending me one of the tools, the Pigg is SOL. Haw. wr.
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GCB, just read your post about the socket shape. Sorry I didn't see it before.
Technically I suspect the hemispherical shape may be slightly better. But in practice I've found the conical tool works just fine. I've done a good 5 or 6 conrod sockets over the years and generally they seem to stay in tune so long that I really don't think there is any issue with the conical one.
Technically I suspect the hemispherical shape may be slightly better. But in practice I've found the conical tool works just fine. I've done a good 5 or 6 conrod sockets over the years and generally they seem to stay in tune so long that I really don't think there is any issue with the conical one.
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Bruce,
If you still have one unspoken for, I'll take it. Let me know how I can get it in my door. [>:]
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If you still have one unspoken for, I'll take it. Let me know how I can get it in my door. [>:]
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Duke, PM me your mailing address. And yes I did read the fine print so you get to avoid the biting sarcasm...
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