lightening reflexes for low wings?
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Wow! I just watched the video from the 2005 design contest- I think it was CombatPigg's Mustang with a Fora on it? That's INSANE! Dude, how can you even see that thing?!
So, it got me thinking.. I've only been flying high-wing machines, and I'll be the first to admit, I like the comfy flying that is not too fast, and I also like the looks of a good high-wing plane.. But, I'm starting to like the looks of low wing, sleeker craft, warbirds, etc. too.
I'm still learning, and I'm curious? How did you guys get to the point where you could fly low wing/fast planes without incident? I'm really getting excited to finish my Ace Simple T-6 Texan, but it looks like it's gonna be a rocketship, and I don't want to destroy it the first time outta the gate.
How did you guys learn? Any advice? Any amusing stories?
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So, it got me thinking.. I've only been flying high-wing machines, and I'll be the first to admit, I like the comfy flying that is not too fast, and I also like the looks of a good high-wing plane.. But, I'm starting to like the looks of low wing, sleeker craft, warbirds, etc. too.
I'm still learning, and I'm curious? How did you guys get to the point where you could fly low wing/fast planes without incident? I'm really getting excited to finish my Ace Simple T-6 Texan, but it looks like it's gonna be a rocketship, and I don't want to destroy it the first time outta the gate.
How did you guys learn? Any advice? Any amusing stories?
Jason
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RE: lightening reflexes for low wings?
Hi JASON! There isn't much difference between high and low wing planes. Properly set up, they are ALL easy to fly. The mystique about low wingers being more difficult, is that they are often overly built and overloaded planes that would be terrible flyers no matter whether they were configured like P-47s or PIPER CUBS. The MUSTANG is a quick and responsive plane because of it's size and amount of power, but if you limited the power and increased the span, it would be a nice low wing plane for anybody to sport fly.
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RE: lightening reflexes for low wings?
With any new ship it's always wise to start with less travel on the controls for the first few flights. That and not setting the engine for max power will let you get the feel of it before you unleash it.
As said there's nothing specific that makes a low wing any more hot to handle or fast than a high wing.
But having said that I understand the HOB Texan can be a tricky model to handle. But it's due to other things than the fact that it's a low wing.
As said there's nothing specific that makes a low wing any more hot to handle or fast than a high wing.
But having said that I understand the HOB Texan can be a tricky model to handle. But it's due to other things than the fact that it's a low wing.
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Hehehe.. Thanks guys!
Hmm.. That little Ace texan won't have the power of that motor you had in your Mustang! That, and I'll be using throttle, so I'll be able to pull it back some. I've been trying to decide if I want to use the stock Ace wing foam, or if I want to build my own wing outta balsa- that way it's easy to increase span, but also I could make the plane lighter with a built-up wing I'm thinking (unless I can talk BipeFlyer into machining one of his super cool light-weight foam wing sets for me, and then I'll sheet the D-tube, trailing edge, and do cap strips..) Whoops, I'm rambling! What I should have said is, would making the plane a few oz. lighter make it more docile? Or not necessarily?
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Hmm.. I recently got a JR6102, and now that I finally have a radio that can do some computer functions, I'm thinking this will be the perfect use for exponential! Only problem is, how much to use? I currently have the expo set on aileron and elevator, both 50%. Is this a good starting number? I'll be using that expo with the recommended throws to start.
Also, this one's the Ace Simple Texan.. Did you mean that one is tricky to fly, or the HOB one? If you meant the Ace one, what kinds of nastys should I look out for? I saw another thread on another forum that said that the Ace Texans like to tip stall, but another poster advised that at nuetral ailerons, if you set in 1/16" up aileron, it will act like washout, and help to avoid tipstall behavior? What do you guys think?
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The MUSTANG is a quick and responsive plane because of it's size and amount of power, but if you limited the power and increased the span, it would be a nice low wing plane for anybody to sport fly.
Buy stock in .. "Fruit Of The Loom".." Haynes"... "Depend" and "Clorox"...... Then Hang On.
With any new ship it's always wise to start with less travel on the controls for the first few flights. That and not setting the engine for max power will let you get the feel of it before you unleash it.
As said there's nothing specific that makes a low wing any more hot to handle or fast than a high wing.
But having said that I understand the HOB Texan can be a tricky model to handle. But it's due to other things than the fact that it's a low wing.
As said there's nothing specific that makes a low wing any more hot to handle or fast than a high wing.
But having said that I understand the HOB Texan can be a tricky model to handle. But it's due to other things than the fact that it's a low wing.
Also, this one's the Ace Simple Texan.. Did you mean that one is tricky to fly, or the HOB one? If you meant the Ace one, what kinds of nastys should I look out for? I saw another thread on another forum that said that the Ace Texans like to tip stall, but another poster advised that at nuetral ailerons, if you set in 1/16" up aileron, it will act like washout, and help to avoid tipstall behavior? What do you guys think?
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RE: lightening reflexes for low wings?
The fastest most insane 1/2a plane I've got is a high wing. As long as you've got at least enough dihedral to make the airplane neutrally stable it comes down to wing loading and power/weight. Oh yeah, and prop selection.
The new ACE wings that I have are lightweight. I would use them for the speed of assembly. You want to see heavy? Get ahold of some of the old ACE foam wings! Use the instructions that came with the wing. My ACE wing came out lighter than a built-up of the same size.
The new ACE wings that I have are lightweight. I would use them for the speed of assembly. You want to see heavy? Get ahold of some of the old ACE foam wings! Use the instructions that came with the wing. My ACE wing came out lighter than a built-up of the same size.
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RE: lightening reflexes for low wings?
ACE vs HOB... Sorry, my mistake. Not sure about the habits of the ACE version. As for the radio I'd suggest that expo is something for later. For now just set up the controls so you only have about plus and minus 1/8 inch on the ailerons and go from there. Do this mostly with the mechanical setup and then reduce to the final setting with the throw volume ratio (not endpoints). Then later you can up the throw to full volume and use about plus and minus 3/16.
Tip stall on these models comes mostly from trying to fly too slow and turn sharply. Once gliding or flying slowly you should only be using a small amount of input and just wait for the model to roll far enough. Large throws at high angles of attack (as in slow flying) is the quickest way to induce a tip stall you'll ever see. This is the sort of stuff that separates the simulators from real life. Only ailerons have this problem. You can use all the rudder and elevator you like.
Tip stall on these models comes mostly from trying to fly too slow and turn sharply. Once gliding or flying slowly you should only be using a small amount of input and just wait for the model to roll far enough. Large throws at high angles of attack (as in slow flying) is the quickest way to induce a tip stall you'll ever see. This is the sort of stuff that separates the simulators from real life. Only ailerons have this problem. You can use all the rudder and elevator you like.