Small hinges
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Small hinges
I am covering a model and I was wondering about what to use for the small hinges, the balsa is only 1/8" so I hate to use ca hinges. What about useing the covering material as a hinge or will it tear right away. What do you guys use on your 1/2a size models?[]
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Monokote hinges work great on 1/2A models. Another alternative is to use the sewn hinges. For those, check if you LHS stocks the kevlar thread used for rigging model sailboats. Somebody on the forum should be able to grab a picture of a sewn hinge (my plane with sewn hinges is 450 mi away). If you can find them, I think it's Dubro that makes some 1/2A pinned hinges also. I know Klett used to, but haven't looked lately as I still have a large stash of them.
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Monokote hinges work great on 1/2A models. Another alternative is to use the sewn hinges. For those, check if you LHS stocks the kevlar thread used for rigging model sailboats. Somebody on the forum should be able to grab a picture of a sewn hinge (my plane with sewn hinges is 450 mi away). If you can find them, I think it's Dubro that makes some 1/2A pinned hinges also. I know Klett used to, but haven't looked lately as I still have a large stash of them.
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Monocote hinges work very well for the size blasa wood you are working with. they are tough, and easy to replace if they wear. Also, they do not bind.
You can see them in the picture I posted. It is not a very good picture, but it was the only one I have that shows monocate hinges at all. They are easy to make, and I can explain it if the picture is not self explanitory. (which it likely is not...Sorry)
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You can see them in the picture I posted. It is not a very good picture, but it was the only one I have that shows monocate hinges at all. They are easy to make, and I can explain it if the picture is not self explanitory. (which it likely is not...Sorry)
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I do sewn figure 8 hinges with dental floss. I've never had a failure on any airplane up to 40 size. I drill a 1/16 hole in the stab and elevator about 3/16 back from the hinge line. I make a little notch in the leading edge of the elevator to clear the hinge so the hinge line is good and tight.
Go to this site and scroll down to "close sewn hinges". http://www.iroquois.free-online.co.uk/knot.htm
Go to this site and scroll down to "close sewn hinges". http://www.iroquois.free-online.co.uk/knot.htm
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RE: Small hinges
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Take apart an old floppy disc and cut out any size hinges you need. I just CA them in.
Take apart an old floppy disc and cut out any size hinges you need. I just CA them in.
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RE: Small hinges
Just for clarification, you mean the round inner disk part and not the plastic housing, right?
I've never thought about those materials for hinges. Excellent brainwork.
I've never thought about those materials for hinges. Excellent brainwork.
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Hey Brian, I'll post an update in it's own thread (to answer your question, I,m done)
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Hey Brian, I'll post an update in it's own thread (to answer your question, I,m done)
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RE: Small hinges
Film is good but sellotape works as well providing you have a shiny surface. I use sellotape diamond grade and seal the edges with a smear of epoxy.
OK so far even on really quick 15 combat models.
OK so far even on really quick 15 combat models.
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Film is good but sellotape works as well providing you have a shiny surface. I use sellotape diamond grade and seal the edges with a smear of epoxy.
OK so far even on really quick 15 combat models.
Film is good but sellotape works as well providing you have a shiny surface. I use sellotape diamond grade and seal the edges with a smear of epoxy.
OK so far even on really quick 15 combat models.
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RE: Small hinges
I have used CA hinges on 1/8" balsa with good success. I have even used them on 3/32". I know people who have used them on 1/16" for smaller planes and they work fine. My hand isn't steady enough to use them on 1/16" balsa though. On smaller stuff (.020 size) I use scotch tape. It's cheap, easy and seals the hinge gap. On the .049 and up stuff though I like covering hinges. They are stronger than you may think. Besides, you are already covering the plane anyway. I usually just use one strip on the top and one strip on the bottom that runs the entire length of the control surface. Just be sure to fold the surface over to stretch out the hinge, iron it on then fold it over the other way and iron the other side on. Piece of cake!
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RE: Small hinges
Fireman,
You have any pictures of that way of using Monokote hinges? I'm on my second wing for my DNU and the last time I did monokote hinges I cut small strips and put them on in a checker board fashion. It took FOREVER! If I can use two long pieces instead of all the little strips, that would make the wing come together faster.
Thanks, brocja01
You have any pictures of that way of using Monokote hinges? I'm on my second wing for my DNU and the last time I did monokote hinges I cut small strips and put them on in a checker board fashion. It took FOREVER! If I can use two long pieces instead of all the little strips, that would make the wing come together faster.
Thanks, brocja01
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RE: Small hinges
Here is just a cross section. Width of each strip is approximately an inch and the length of your hinge line. As mentioned above, apply the strip along the hinge line with the hinge fully deflected in the opposite direction. It is easy to get the gap too tight which will make the joint stiff and the servo work hard. Also use a medium temp on your iron just below the shrinking temp of your film so you don't shrink the film tighty in the joint.
I like to put the hinge under the final covering (hard to do) just for looks but it works fine over the top too.
I like to put the hinge under the final covering (hard to do) just for looks but it works fine over the top too.
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RE: Small hinges
There you go, perfect. I don't have any pics of it. Just like you said, though, run one strip the full surface length. You can do it the same way with a double bevel. Your preference.
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