Guillows Kits?
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Guillows Kits?
I realize that you should never count the cost of a build project, or so Ive been told anyway, but Ive got to know. Ive noticed that a few ppl here have successfully converted these Guillows kits over to RC , and I am in the middle of the same project with the guillows vought corsair,however I am at a point to where I am trying to figure out if it is worth it or not. Whether I should just make it a display or finish the conversion.
For those of you who have done this , was it worth it after all the initial cost?
For those of you who have done this , was it worth it after all the initial cost?
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RE: Guillows Kits?
Tony,
With nearly 40 years of modeling under my belt and a whole lot of Guillows kits,
I have never been tempted to make one R/C.
But EROC144 did:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_37...tm.htm#3713800
I personally would get a GWS unpainted
"slope" kit and start from there. (1/2 to 3/4 oz glass and epoxy on the whole thing...)
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXHCP3&P=SM
Now if it's "worth it", if you enjoy the challenge, and doing it successfully would make
you happy and proud, it's worth it!
They have been done many, many times in the past, and I must admit I like the idea of a
Dumas Spruce Goose with 8 180 electric motors.
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXHYY7&P=7
If you do it, building really light and using electric is probably the way to go.
Dave
PS I think some of Jim Ryans designs for the 400 class motors would make great .049 planes.
http://home.fuse.net/ryan/index.htm
PSS Pix of one my Dad built many years ago, never did get it to fly on the Ace GG system we had in it.
With nearly 40 years of modeling under my belt and a whole lot of Guillows kits,
I have never been tempted to make one R/C.
But EROC144 did:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_37...tm.htm#3713800
I personally would get a GWS unpainted
"slope" kit and start from there. (1/2 to 3/4 oz glass and epoxy on the whole thing...)
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXHCP3&P=SM
Now if it's "worth it", if you enjoy the challenge, and doing it successfully would make
you happy and proud, it's worth it!
They have been done many, many times in the past, and I must admit I like the idea of a
Dumas Spruce Goose with 8 180 electric motors.
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXHYY7&P=7
If you do it, building really light and using electric is probably the way to go.
Dave
PS I think some of Jim Ryans designs for the 400 class motors would make great .049 planes.
http://home.fuse.net/ryan/index.htm
PSS Pix of one my Dad built many years ago, never did get it to fly on the Ace GG system we had in it.
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RE: Guillows Kits?
Hey thx for the replies.[8D] I decided to go ahead and finish it. Thought about it and decided that since I was already this far into it that it would be kind of goofy not to finish the project.
Started back on it a couple of days ago , and if I dont run into any problems , I should have it done pretty soon. (not gonna give an exact finish time cause I like to build slow)
Anyway thx again.
btw , that is a nice looking plane you have there
Started back on it a couple of days ago , and if I dont run into any problems , I should have it done pretty soon. (not gonna give an exact finish time cause I like to build slow)
Anyway thx again.
btw , that is a nice looking plane you have there
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RE: Guillows Kits?
Tony,
Well, that's my dads handiwork. Notice the increased area on all the flying surfaces.
We could get it to glide beautifully with the stock (probably scale) dimensions, but all hell broke
loose under power, even with heroic shimming of the thrust angle.
Have not tried it since increasing areas and removing the galloping ghost controls.
It is covered with doped nylon and most stringers are bamboo.
Dave
Well, that's my dads handiwork. Notice the increased area on all the flying surfaces.
We could get it to glide beautifully with the stock (probably scale) dimensions, but all hell broke
loose under power, even with heroic shimming of the thrust angle.
Have not tried it since increasing areas and removing the galloping ghost controls.
It is covered with doped nylon and most stringers are bamboo.
Dave
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RE: Guillows Kits?
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Tony,
Well, that's my dads handiwork. Notice the increased area on all the flying surfaces.
We could get it to glide beautifully with the stock (probably scale) dimensions, but all hell broke
loose under power, even with heroic shimming of the thrust angle.
Have not tried it since increasing areas and removing the galloping ghost controls.
It is covered with doped nylon and most stringers are bamboo.
Dave
Tony,
Well, that's my dads handiwork. Notice the increased area on all the flying surfaces.
We could get it to glide beautifully with the stock (probably scale) dimensions, but all hell broke
loose under power, even with heroic shimming of the thrust angle.
Have not tried it since increasing areas and removing the galloping ghost controls.
It is covered with doped nylon and most stringers are bamboo.
Dave
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RE: Guillows Kits?
Cobra,
It's the classic stick & tissue method for complex shapes like a fighter fuselage.
Lay down keels (side outline of fuselage) then add bulkheads at 90 degrees.
These have notches on the outside in which you run the stringers front to back.
The 1/16" square balsa is pretty wimpy, so he used (uses!) bamboo, which is tough
stuff. Think of it as planking with really big gaps. It's just there to support the
outside skin, which is really your tissue/nylon/monokote.
This is worth 1000 words:
http://www.americanjuniorclassics.co...ireball24.html
Dave
PS It's supposed to be a Mustang p51b, converted form the "D"
version that Guillows kits.
It's the classic stick & tissue method for complex shapes like a fighter fuselage.
Lay down keels (side outline of fuselage) then add bulkheads at 90 degrees.
These have notches on the outside in which you run the stringers front to back.
The 1/16" square balsa is pretty wimpy, so he used (uses!) bamboo, which is tough
stuff. Think of it as planking with really big gaps. It's just there to support the
outside skin, which is really your tissue/nylon/monokote.
This is worth 1000 words:
http://www.americanjuniorclassics.co...ireball24.html
Dave
PS It's supposed to be a Mustang p51b, converted form the "D"
version that Guillows kits.