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Old 01-31-2008, 05:16 PM
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Default Queen Bee in a Lazy Bee???

Think it will fly? Remember I am still a newbee at these small engines. From what I have heard the Cox .074 Queen Bee is basically a throttled .049 as far as power is concerned. It has a 6x3 prop on it (same as recomended for an .049). Is it apropriate for this engine?
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Old 01-31-2008, 05:30 PM
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Default RE: Queen Bee in a Lazy Bee???

i think it will fly with no problem put a 7x3 prop on it whats the model weigh ready to go ?
Old 01-31-2008, 05:34 PM
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Default RE: Queen Bee in a Lazy Bee???

Unfortunately I do not have a scale for my planes yet so I really do not know the weight. I do think I have a 7x3 prop around here though.
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Default RE: Queen Bee in a Lazy Bee???

if i remember clancy used to fly one with an .049 i think the specs call for .049-.15 the queen bee should fly it pretty nice this plane was made to fly slow some guys use os.10-15 i have an old cox lazy bee its all foam 36 inch wing span with a cox .049 2 channel radio and it flys good
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Providing it isn't too heavy the QB 074 should be quite a good match-it won't be a rocket in any case (and a Lazy Bee doing the equivalent of Mach 3 looks a bit silly anyway-they were designed for relaxed fun flying...........)
The Master 7x3 is probably the best of the commercial 7x3s in terms of limited blade area and not too much load. Might be worth trying the 6x3, 6x3.5, 6x4 and 7x3 prop sizes and seeing which suit the motor and model best. I think you'll find the APC 7x3 and Cox 7x3.5 a bit much load for the Queen Bee [but if you want a bit of fun-try a MECOA Cox 09 diesel head on the Queen Bee-they fit, since the QB uses a modified 09 cylinder!] And on the same lines-the Medallion 09 and TD 09 glowheads also fit the QB-and may give a little more power than the standard 1/4-32 glowplug head the QB comes with............

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Default RE: Queen Bee in a Lazy Bee???

I see you have the Lazy Bee ARF. Those are a bit on the heavy side. It may fly, but an OS .10 would be better. I have flown the Lazy Bee ARF on the OS .10, OS .15, OS .20 4-stroke, OS .26 4-stroke, and the HP VT21 4 stroke. The best all-around engine I have found for the 40" Lazy Bee is the OS FP .15. (an LA .15 will do) Right now, I have an OS CV15A on one. (Talk about overkill!)

If you build a Bee from a kit or plans, you can make it lighter. I have flown kit-built Bees with as little as a Norvel .061 R/C. I have buddies that have built Bees as light as 16oz!
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I have a NIB OS .10 LA as back up. I Also have an old OS .15 MAX that lost it's strap-on muffler some decades ago by the previous owner.
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Default RE: Queen Bee in a Lazy Bee???

i would try the queen bee first i think it will fly its not a pattern ship i know some guys like a lot of power thats nice plane to relax with what kind of rx pack are you using?
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I've got a few to choose from but I was thinking one of my micro GWS or this little park flyer set up I have (72 MHz) paired with 2 Hitech HS-56's and a GWS micro on the throttle. No I do not want a hovering aerobatic Lazy Bee... I want a Lazy Bee... One that people look at and wonder how it flys, one that might loop if you dive first.
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I am not a Bee expert by any means, but my limited experience
with lazy and speedy versions tell me you had best keep them light if
you expect the performance that Andy gets. Substitute lighter wood
and generally keep to the tenets of this group and his designs are
hard to beat . Ralph
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Default RE: Queen Bee in a Lazy Bee???

The photo above looks like a VW engine in a school bus .
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ORIGINAL: combatpigg

The photo above looks like a VW engine in a school bus .
Kinda does, doesn't it

What do you think My CC buddies are gonna think when this contraption wins the unlimited class at this spring races[X(]...
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What do you think My CC buddies are gonna think when this contraption wins the unlimited class at this spring races[X(]...
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there gonna say "how did everyone else crash but stang?"...
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Default RE: Queen Bee in a Lazy Bee???

I'd go with a bigger engine. I doubt you will have fun with it on that engine.
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Default RE: Queen Bee in a Lazy Bee???

ORIGINAL: Mr67Stang

ORIGINAL: combatpigg

The photo above looks like a VW engine in a school bus .
Kinda does, doesn't it

What do you think My CC buddies are gonna think when this contraption wins the unlimited class at this spring races[X(]...
I would get a hernia from laughing too hard!
Did you ever see that RC video of the old worn out LazyBee being pulled around by the old worn out 4 stroke with the loooose crankshaft? It flew amazingly well in a little field.
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Default RE: Queen Bee in a Lazy Bee???

The engine to fuselage proportions look right...







for a model from the 1930's.

But, I would fly it with the Queen B just to say you did it. Add some head shims and put an 8x4 on it.

David
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Default RE: Queen Bee in a Lazy Bee???

I have the 48 inch wing Bee kit that I built. It has the Queen B 074 with a 7-3 APC and 7-3 Cox props. The Cox works the best of the two. Hand toss over grass, but will take off on dirt or pavement. Does fly slow with 074. but will climb good. loops from a dive, just plain fun slow and low.
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Default RE: Queen Bee in a Lazy Bee???

If you're not sure that the engine will be powerful enough then you're best to start with a 6x3 and let it rev up. From there you can tame it by going to larger props like the 7x3 and so on.

We fly 19 oz SAM 1/2A Texacos on .049's with big props. The climb can best be described as "gliding uphill". To call it a climb is to do an injustice to such planes as Piper Cubs and some underpowered ultralights. But one day for giggles I put the 6x3 back on and peaked it out. The model was suddenly a screaming hotrod despite the 47 inch span and 19 oz weight.

Personally I think it'll be fine.
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Default RE: Queen Bee in a Lazy Bee???

Does anyone know where I might find a Lazy Bee or Speedy Bee kit ?? Or maybe just the plans?
Old 02-16-2008, 04:02 AM
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RCM magazine has the plans for the Speedy Bee. They are still selling plans despite the magazine itself folding up.

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