DanCarey

The nature of my job means i travel alot[&o].
Sometimes i just want to relax and go flying
So what i am looking for is and 0.10 or 0.20 sized kits so i can put them in a small case and use them whereever i am

Thanks in advance guys

Dan

Thomas B

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Well...officially...1/8A is .010 engines and 1/4A is .020 engines.

(The AMA actually lumps anthing less than a .0504 into the 1/2A class.)

.10 is A class power and .20 is actually B class power.....

Are you wanting 1/8A, 1/4A or A or B power kits?

DanCarey

Ah sorry too much red wine
Im after 1/8 or 1/4a for the 2 small cox's.
Both will fit in a nice small case

Regards
Dan

rrragmanliam

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Hello Dan,

Go to Skaliwags web sight http://www.selecthobbies.com and check out the Early RC Models kits. There are several for the .010 to .020 engine sizes. These are excellent lazer cut kits by Bob Harris and Skaliwag is a real stand up guy. You can't go wrong by purchasing from his websight.

Darren

DanCarey

Exactly what im looking for, thanks very much for your help.


Regards
Dan

DeviousDave

If you like faster stuff, JM Glaskraft has a few scale pylon racers-but no website. See the JMG penetrator thread for a few of his kits.

Demon-Leather

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If You like easy stuff to fly (like I NEED) You might want to try Ken Willard's Roarin'20. it's a 20" span, wings come off, and is easilly "suitcasable" It's origonally from the early 60's, and TopFlite kitted it around 65-66'. They are STILL making it today: http://www.earlyrcmodels.com/id15.html
Ken Willard's "Page Boy" is also available as a kit there, with even a smaller wingspan. in the EARLY 60's, Ken took the Pageboy and clipped the span to 8" and flew the worlds smallest r/c model into the record books.
Because of my almost non-existent flying skills, I build mine out of fan fold insulation board. They are actually lighter than a balsa build, and "bounce" when you crash them. I've included a photo of my foam/electric verion of the Roarin'20. I can't help you with Roarin' 20 plans, but I have a PDF of Ken's Pageboy You (or anyone) can build... ENJOY! Bob

The file system here does not support PDF (so it says) SooOOoo.. here's a link to the Pageboy PDF in one of my old threads: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...9&postcount=40
AND: here's another link for .010-.15 size plans you & everyone can enjoy & d/l for free...
http://my.pclink.com/~dfritzke/
I also noticed when I went to Dave's site, the .020 powered "Rivets" racer was missing... luckilly, I copied it for a future build, and am quite willing to share... http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...&postcount=108 I think she's a beautiful ship!..AND got 2nd prize for Class 1 in Toledo in 1968!...

Demon-Leather

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Well... after reading the entire post... I noticed that you've already been turned on to Early r/c's website. But,.. being cheap,.. I'm hoping other "cheapies" will appreciate the free plans! Only a matter of band-aids verses laser cutting,.. yet again (hey.. I'm lucky I still have fingers left!) Bob

Raymond LeFlyr

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Dear Demon,

Seems like I've seen your electric-through-a-drilled-out-PeeWee-case somewhere before. But I don't recall much for details on how you did it. I wouldn't mind spending some time at the drill press to make one for myself - probably for mounting on a PageBoy or maybe a small British FF conversion. So, what's your secret?

Mr Cox

Drilled out PeeWee...?
That would be a real shame, I though/hoped it was just a painted balsa dummy....

Raymond LeFlyr

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Mr. Cox,

I'm not sure anything actually has to be drilled out - just remove the crank shaft, piston and screen in the backplate. Maybe Demon used music wire and something for a bushing at the front end. I need to take a close look one of these days.

Demon-Leather

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No need to Be sad Mr Cox,.. It's 100% real Dummy! The tank is balsa along with the crank case turned on my "hand-drill lathe" crankcase screw bosses are bamboo skewer sticks, crankcase scout is a snip from a soda straw. Needle valve was a toothpick with a 1/32" ply disk installed and 1/2 a ball point pen spring (streached) But,. it couldn't survive MY kind of flying/crashing, so I replaced it with 3/32" fiberglass kite rod. I'm also sorry I installed see-through exhaust ports on that small .020 cylinder,.. had to CA it back together twice now[>:]
The "secret" to the illusion is the humble 1 gallon milk jug. When punched out with a hot brass tube (or for 020 a 7.62 x 39mm used shell casing) they can be carefully cut slightly oversized, then mounted on your drill-lathe turned balsa cylinder & correctly (after first coating it with Pacer Formula 560 canopy glue,.. about the only thing that holds milk jug) Once dry, You place the cylinder back in the lathe, & lightly file with a jewlers flat file, followed by the triangular file. Milk jug is almost the perfect thickness for 020-049 Cox fins, AND, it's FREE!
And you have seen it before Raymond,... here http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=3810198
After a nasty break up, financial woes, a major heart attack, and quad bypass surgery,.. I'm just finishing it up
Here's a mini, hurried semi-how-to on the milk jug fins, and more photos of the Foamin'20.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=861739
If you go there make sure you watch/listen to the small video. who says electrics have to be "quiet" and you'll know what an .020 would sound like as a 4-stroke[8D] There's also a photo of My "Demon & Rice" .23 ignition engine, installed over my 1939 Scientific Mercury Jr. geared 400 motor in there. Bob

Demon-Leather

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Oh.. and Dan,... here's a link to a couple PDF plans you can download and build yourself
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...3#post10017797
and... you can make your own printwood by following this thread...
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77687
Then.. it's all over except the cutting & band-Aids! Bob

DanCarey

Cheers guys this is a great help
Looks like i will be hunting for more tiny pdf plans

Dan

Raymond LeFlyr

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Bob, I bow to the master!!! You are an inspiration.

WEDJ

Ummm,

So I'm going to build a Jr Skylark w/ twin .020s, does 1/4 + 1/4 = 1/2A?

Demon-Leather

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Dave Fritzke's page has lots of Down loadable plans ( Including the Skylark) and has a nice Das Littlest stick perfect for the suitcase. http://my.pclink.com/~dfritzke/
Rubber free flights are easy to convert to .010-.020 power. Those rectangular stick built fuselages translate into a 1/16" all sheet build VERY easy, and are nearly as light. Small vintage tow-liners will sit up & beg for a .010-.020 power pod. If you like old British designs..scale, sport, gliders, even some wild deltas... you'll love the house of Frog site. http://www.thestuarts.eclipse.co.uk/
A site where you can get reproductions of the TopFlite all-sheet "Jig Time" or Carl Goldberg,s all sheet rubber powered designs is Here. They can be printed out and enlarged 40-50% and converted. There's even the Ranger 21, which can be enlarged to it's bigger brother's glow size.
http://www.parmodels.com/Plans/jigtime.htm
The possibilities are endless.. if you need more plans links, let me know... Bob

Demon-Leather

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Thank you!.. thank you!,..>bows< I owe it all to being C-H-E-A-P and My advanced/redundent thinking abilities, and that all-inspiring slogan from the 70's "some times you feel like a nut,.. sometmes you dont"

DanCarey

Cheers Demon
My wife has sugeted i make a few small ones so i have a choice.

Time to start searching these links

Best Regards

Dan

Raymond LeFlyr

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I followed Bob's (Demon"s) link to the Pageboy pages. I was able to print them just fine - but I wanted to copy the file into my harddrive so I could fiddle with the scale. Alas, I wasn't offered the opportunity to copy by my Adobe free reader. I lookd at the security information on the original file and didn't see anything that looked like a lockout. Is there a way I can make adjustments without going to Kinko's?

Demon-Leather

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I can send you the file to your e-mail.. shouldn't be a problem with my file... Bob

NEW222

Hi there Raymond LeFlyr. If you know what percentage of scale you would like, I could help you out. I could do it in either Adobe, or Tile Print. Just let me know if I can help out. Percentage would work in Adobe, or else I will have to do it in Tile Print if you knew what size you would like it. Have a good one.

NEW222

Raymond LeFlyr

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Thanks Bob, got it.

New, The reason I wanted the file for my very own was to play around and print different sizes and see how it scaled. I have Tile Print so I'll use it. I'm very tempted to scale down with EPP or Depron to match a 10 gram motor. Or, just like it is with a fake PeeWee like Demon's. But I don't think I would make one too much larger - but you never know.

Demon-Leather

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GREAT! I've never fooled much with PDF's, GIF, CAD,TIF's and all the rest of the IF family.. I'm more a "Hard-Copy" guy. I've been buying, selling, & trading plans on the net since 1997. I have some John Ponds doesn't have. I've done the same with vintage kits for the same amount of time. All the kits I got, never left me until I had copied the plans & printwood. That way, I have a "virtual short-kit" on paper. Anytime I want to build something, I just run off a builder's copy of the plan, & run the plan under the computerized photocopiers @ Office Max. The computerized copiers give you the actual 100% size of all your printwood, so they match the plan. Here's some "future builds" I have in store..

old git

I loved the model of a cox engine, very convincing. In an effort to avoid having dead .020 engines (due to lack of live heads) I just bought a CO2 conversion head for TS .020 engines together with pressure vessel. It should start very easily too, only problem is the length of engine run.




old git - - - - - aka John L.