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Old 11-21-2008, 03:13 PM
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Thanks to the Fritzke website for the plans and Freebird for the canopy, I am building a couple Mach's and this is a review of the first.

More coming soon, check back ! Matt
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Old 11-21-2008, 03:28 PM
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Old 11-21-2008, 03:45 PM
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Pic in first post is from the fritzke website (not my plane)

Canopy and plans:

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I've signed on for this one!!

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This will be 4 channels, with a Cox surestart non r/c.

I am going to experiment with in flight mixture control to act as a semi throttle by pinching the fuel line with the thottle servo.

I am also going to start with the original cox plug then move to the aftermarket head and plug (Nelson).

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Old 11-21-2008, 05:26 PM
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Anyone have a weight on thier foam wing for this plane? (Just the wing )

I am about 11 grams without servo or covering so far.
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Old 11-21-2008, 09:20 PM
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hey guys where can i get a set of plans and foam wings and canopy love to build one
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Cut ribs from plans then cut ribs from balsa. Wing is now pretty much framed up. Weight about 11 grams here.
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Great to see a gorgeous classic being built. Don't sweat the weight of the wing, if you are using medium balsa sheet and firm [stiff] sticks, it will turn out just fine. Try to use light trailing edge stock if you can.
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ORIGINAL: gabe200

hey guys where can i get a set of plans and foam wings and canopy love to build one

Check Dave Fritzke's excellent [link=http://my.pclink.com/~dfritzke/index.html]website[/link] for a set of downloadable plans. You will have to cut your own foam wings, or get someone here to cut a set for you. The canopy is available thru Freebird - he has posted above; send him a PM.

You might shoot Steve at [link=http://www.selecthobbies.com/]Select Hobbies[/link] an email. He has had some tapered and constant chord ACE cores in stock.
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Old 11-22-2008, 11:25 AM
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OK ladies and germs, more pics:
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Old 11-22-2008, 11:28 AM
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One complete wing except for aileron linkage. Used plans to cut out bulkheads.
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Hey RC!

When you built the wing, did you draw a centerline on the L/E for the ribs and kept the T/E pinned to the board? TIA!

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Old 11-23-2008, 06:49 PM
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Hey RC'07!
Looks very nice! How has the parts fit been so far?
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Old 11-24-2008, 04:24 PM
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FB ,exactly, trailing edge pinned down ribs glued to TE and bottom sheeting (everything pinned down first), the lined up the LE as careful as possible and glued freehand with fast ca.
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Dave so far so good, but I'm doing this one down n dirty....I am not taking the time to notch the TE and LE, just installing ribs over plans and sanding ribs to fit as needed. Your plans are perfect to get this little plane built.

By the way, I will also be installing a TD, a Norvel, and my TT .7 to find out each engines max performance.
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Building the basic fuse as shown is the most difficult part (of any kit). Make sure all the bulkheads are square, and that the fuse sides are perfectly aligned over the plans. Just tack glue everything until everything is aligned. It is very easy to make a crooked fuse (done it many times)
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Guys, I am going to go with the smallest physical sized servos I can get away with...from experience on this type of plane what is the MIN torque I could get away with on ail and elevator?
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Old 11-24-2008, 08:01 PM
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Ok folks, Ole lazy here has finally started the "project" I have the fuse really slicked up, and have built a balsa wing . I am making several changes My Mach None will pretty much be a one of a kind as I am doing strip Ailerons (2/3 ) and strip flaps(1/3) with mini retracts (tail dragger) I am also using a rudder. I have a Norvel .64 both early version and a later version with throttle and muffler. What I would like to kow is what experience someone might have had with this rocket on electric as compared to Norvel?
I am keeping her light as I have a lot of servos to install. 2-micros on ailerons, one mini on gear, micro on flaps a micro on rudder, and throttle and a mini on the elevator.
My intention is not a 3d as this plane is a dream pattern ship (I had one in mid 70's with CoxTD 049 and heavy 2 servos and radio)

I remember how this plane deadstick would settup 3 ft over runnway theshold and still be a foot off ground as it passed me not seeming to slow down any...so I will be doing flaps this time with throttle.
What would be best elec setup...I remember this bird would do 70+ in level flight with the Cox and a hand cut and shaped 5.25 X 4 gray prop I am looking for maybe 80-90 this time
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rc2007, have you made any progress on your Mach None? We'd love to see it finished!

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Hi Freebird...

I built the Mach None...here are a few pics... I am going to finish it in the spring...but have a few other builds going right now..
Hope this uploads

<- picture (avitar) is the only one I found on the net of a Rumplestadt... and I am currently building (2) 3/4 siz e electric versions and a full size one.. I will try to Upload a couple pics of it also I used two entirely different foam building techniques I have not seen used yet.. and may build another Mach none with one of those methods, (a bit lighter and faster to build)
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Nice balsa carving there Gittar! And retracts no less.
Gotta love a 5 channel 1/2a plane!
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Guys, I am going to go with the smallest physical sized servos I can get away with...from experience on this type of plane what is the MIN torque I could get away with on ail and elevator?
I would say 12oz could be a minimum on the torque. I like the Futaba 3114's as they have over 20oz, and are light and well built. You may be able to go for lighter torque, but you need to really watch the setup for binding and tight sontrol surfaces, servo stall is somthing to avoid on a great plane like these patterns.

My two cents anyway, I will be interested in hearing how it all works out.
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Here is the Rumplestadt Thread... come join us in "ressurecting" this lovable old bipe..

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_89...tm.htm#8956602
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