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Old 09-13-2012, 11:47 AM
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Default RE: Valve overlap on 4 strokes


ORIGINAL: earlwb

There is something of a whole lot of art and science involved with valve overlaps and how much is enough.
Generally you adjust the overlap timing to coincide with the exhaust system and its scavenging effect at a specific RPM range, which can be quite narrow in some cases. To take full advantage of it, one needs to have a exhaust system designed for it. But normally as the overlap increases the power developed moves higher up the RPM band. But with a small 4 stroke engine that is revving over 10,000 RPMs already, the valve overlap can be quite extreme anyway.

Now with model engine the timings or degrees of overlap can vary from larger engines as there is a scale effect that occurs as the engine gets smaller and smaller. The air and fuel don't change size as the engine gets smaller, so that remains constant.

There are some valve overlap calculators for determining the camshaft to use or to make.
http://www.wallaceracing.com/camcalc.php
http://www.rbracing-rsr.com/camshaft.html

These valve overlap numbers can give you an idea as to hot an engine is setup too.
ref http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=23156
APPROXIMATE adv overlap ''operational'' reference chart:

10* - 40*….towing
30* - 60*….ordinary street
50* - 75*….street performance
70* - 90*….street/strip
85* - 100*...race
95* - 115*...Pro race

The thing is, his operational reference chart right above, only seems to fit Big Blocks properly. If you take percentages and scale things down for small blocks, it ends up looking like this:

9* - 35*….towing
26* - 53*….ordinary street
44* - 66*….street performance
61* - 79*….street/strip
74* - 87*….race
83* - 100*...Pro race



I was in on pioneering performance cams for the Gen II Hemis. While old school performance cams has LSAs (lobe separation angles) of 110* to as little as 109*, the EFI & computer controled parameters on the new generation engines performed best W/LSA of 114* to 112*.

As you probably know less LSA = more overlap, all things being equal. In the heavy 4200+# LX cars, 112* LSA was a bit peaky while the 114* LSA tended to not pull on top. I had my last custom ground cam done by Crower W/a LSA of 113* W/.050" lift durations of 215/219 ground straight up. The cam lift profile was such that I could retain MDS (Multiple Displacemnt System) I had a very aggressive opening ramp on the lobes to give me a long closed cycle yet the quick opening of the valves allowed it to breath on top.

The stock rotating assembly W/a good set of heads & other breathing enhancements made 426RWHP & 460RWTQ. Crank HP was estimated @ 510 t0 530 HP.

It ran pretty good & still got 2 MPG BETTER fuel economy than stock, getting 26 MPG on the hiway after the mods!

It did pretty good the 1st time out @ 4300# race weight.

Here are my best N/A passes 2 my 1stbtrack session after the cam insallation & a swap to an 8.8 Ford rear from a Ford Explorer W 3.23 gears. In 1st through 3rd gear, the 3.23 was equivelant to a 4.55 W/a TH400 transmission.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-Sbz2Etl_A[/youtube]

This was W/a 125HP shot of nitrous.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhG0KlXEOnU[/youtube]