Actualy I am trying to do retro things what I am trying to do is repricate the kit I built as a teenager. This Ringmaster and Flite Streak have given to the idea that I can do things I used to think I had to buy the kit to get. When I was in the Airforce I built a Top Flight Torus. With the 10 channel citezans band reed systom it flew about 6 seconds and after I opened the throttle I wasnt flying it. Now with the proportional radios I never loose control. I have wanted to build another Torus but the wing leading edge seemed out of the question. Now I think I can do it so I know I can get the plans I might try to build one.