RE: Retracts for Patriot
I do not fly off grass but my Patriot Jett-50 combo has Spring Air retracts (605 or 603's?) and they are VERY strong-
Remember on the Patriot with the tricycle gear the gear legs are fairly short and after the mains touch the nose gear helps offset some of the pushing that normally bends gear backwards-
Mine will flat-out break at the joint or in the wing before they will give much!
You will love that combo by the way-
I run an APC 9x9 on 15% with an OS-8 plug... Simply awesome!
Keep us posted!
james`