I went by the LHS to pick up a special order part and walked into a similar discussion as we are having here. The consensus is the electric ARFs, RTF, BNF have ruined the hobby. What kept the hobby going back in the day was commitment. When you had to put your own blood, sweat, and tears into a project you had a great deal of buy in and you stuck with the hobby out of the satisfaction you got from success. Now I guy can buy a RTF charge the battery in his car on the way home and fly the darn thing, no commitment necessary. If you have just a few dollars invested and no skin in the game the hobby becomes as disposable as last night's movie ticket.