Devin McGrath

Not sure on the thrust on the 2204 but it only weighs 24g and on thee cells it pulls a tensor strait up like a missile. I know this is way beyond the ratings for this motor but I have not had a problem yet .... On a 9x4.7 on three cells it draws 9.5 amps. full throttle is rarely used.

Y N C

The AXI 2204 puts out 10oz of thrust and the 2208 17oz.

tylerman

10 ounces[X(]--If I tried to hover my plane it would fall on the ground-or am i getting the wrong idea here??

When they say "10 ounces of thrust" does it mean that that is what it is capable of pulling or is it the the weight of the plane you should pull with.
I dont think that ia m getting this[:-]

Shadrack

That is the thrust that the motor is putting out with a certain prop. That will change if you use different props. Need more information to put a thrust number on a motor. You want more thrust than the complete weight of your plane if you want to hover, at least 1.5 to 1 or greater.

jackmccomas

Just went out and bought my Tensor for my son today, I want the awesome setup, Horizon sugessts the Park 370 Outrunner Brushless, 1360Kv, 7.4V 860mAh 2-Cell LIPO,JST & the 10 x 4.7 Slow Flyer Prop, is this really the best setup? I fly only outdoors. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Shadrack

I fly outdoors with that setup, with one change. I use a TP 2S 1900 battery because I wanted more run time and more weight. Works great, added just under an ounce, but in light wind, you want that weight.

jackmccomas

Hello,
I was thinking of using the same setup, how did it turn out?

Best regards,

Jack

Shadrack

Well, being in winnipeg, I haven't had tons of time to try it out, but I did have one perfect night, light wind. Flew for about 15 minutes getting used to this plane (learn to use rudder, or learn to watch your plane going straight in a knife edge) and landed. Then some people came by and their kids wanted to see it fly so I landed my formossa and put the tensor up again for at least 10 more minutes. After getting it home, I still had around 500ma in the battery.
I find with the extra weight it fly's more like an airplane than a box kite. It had no issue with the light wind, sank at a decent rate for landing, and still had plenty of power to pull up out of a hover (my version of a hover anyways). With this battery though, plan your weight. If you look back at the pictures, you can see how I mounted my battery, and by enlarging the slot so I can shift the weight back, I can drop to a 1200 2S and shed over 1/2 ounce right there. AUW is under 11 oz with the 1900 pack, and 10.4 with the 1200. If I drop to a 730, I'm sure I'd be close to or under 10.

tylerman

On my tensor we decided to not cut out a slot for the batt. for fear of it causing a weak spot in the airframe--
Instead we put the Rx. and the ESC on one side so we could put the batt. on the other side and get it all balanced.

With this setup i can lay a peice of velcro across the fuse to adjust the C.G. easily-- If you cut out a big hole and want to change your CG you are forced to make the hole bigger[]and that means that it would make it that much weaker.

jackmccomas-I am running an AXI 2208/34-it is great, Some people are also running a AXI 2204/54. but if you go with that motor you will definately have to build light- i like lots of power and for some reason the 2204 doesnt seem like enough.

Just my opinion

Y N C

Tylerman I'm sorry it's for plane up to 10oz. Not 10oz of thrust.

Shadrack

Tylerman.
I thought of that too with the battery, but if you look at the picture, I put a rod of CF over the top where the slot was cut out for the battery for strength. There is enough left over from the kit when you finish to do it. The slot isn't that thick with a 2S battery so I noticed no difference in strength at all.

Y N C

Shadrack. Where do you fly in winnipeg? would you know Dennis W and Len C.

Shadrack

I usually fly at an open field near Lipset Hall, grant and keneston. About 4 soccer fields in size and a few blocks from my house. I don't know those guys, I do know a Len, but his last name starts with G, and he is into large jets last I checked. Don't belong to a club, with electric, I found that I didn't have to leave town to fly. I deal a lot with the guys at Cellar Dwellar, the only real hobby store here. Have been to a few fun fly's. Do you know Jim at Cellar Dwellar, he rented a place for an indoor fly a few weeks ago that he said went pretty well. No tensors there though, I should have brought mine, but had the kids that night. Where do you fly out of?

TManiaci

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Shadguy,

Tyler is flying 3S 11.1V batteries, TP730 & TP1320. Not 2S, which are much thinner. The cutout would completely sever the fuse because they are too thick.

This thing SMOKES with the AXI 2208/34 and 10x3.8 on the 11.1V. Overpowerd, no doubt. He like that

Shadrack

Ok, yes, you would cutout another chunk, probably right to the edge. But then again, with CF, you can keep it strong there, and I noticed no strength loss once I used CF, just wanted to keep the battery centered since it weighs more than my speed control and receiver.

TManiaci

My Feedback: (6)

True, the CF would hold it together, but we were also unsure about CG management with various batteries too. Velcro on the side allows a wide range of position, unlike a cutout. We were kinda in a corner because we had all this harware from a HellRaiser, and didn't want to go buy a lot of new goodies. It was really hard to find a plane that would take all the same expensive items... we selected the Tensor because our rigging was overkill, but it turns out to be a GREAT matchup. Tyler is hovering on the deck, and lanching and catching it already. Never could do that with the HR. He flys outdoors with wind usually, so the heavy hardware seems to stablize it very nicely.

jackmccomas

Thanks for the info Tylerman,
I went with the Park 370 Outrunner Brushless, 1360Kv, hopefully this will have good vertically performance, the hobby store didnt have the AXI motors. Thanks for the tip on the battery placement, I am going to use a 3c 2200MAH and I am going to try that before cutting away.

Shadrack

Do you mean 3S 2200? If so, I wouldn't run that motor on a 3S pack. Your amps will be through the roof. If you wanted to use a 3S pack you should have gone with the 1080Kv version.

jackmccomas

Shadrack
Thats what I thought to but the guy at the hobby store told me different. Going to return it today for the 1080Kv version, I have 2c battery packs but I just fly outside and need the weight. Thanks for correction!

Shadrack

If you have a 2S of a larger size, that will work great on the 1370kv, but even eflite suggests not using 3S with this motor. Glad I can be of help, but I don't understand you changing if you do have 2S packs of larger size. What is your weight? I fly at 11 ozs and I think it is dead on with the pack I am using.

jackmccomas

I havent finished it yet, hopefully the weight will come in on the low side, just using CA to build. I have a box full of 2c 830mah packs that I use for my slow flyers, Pico Tiger, Mad Max Sopwith Camel. I actually made these packs myself from old cell phone batterys, ($2.00 a pack) they work great on the slow flyers, 20-30 minutes but I am sure the dischare rate is not up to snuff for the 1080Kv.

tylerman

Shadrack- I didnt see the CF lining the edges of it. like Tman said If i had made a cut out there would have acually been a piece of foam out of the fuse--Dont want that

Jackmccomas- Oh my gosh! 3s 2200 i thought that a 1320 was border line too big but dang, Thats got to be a 4 ounce batt.
I belive that the e- flight motor has 1 ounce more thrust than a 2208/34- i dont know if thats going to help any but oh well.

Hey dad- you need a Tensor, even you could get really good with this plane
JK i am just bagging on you because to me you seem overly carefull- You havent messed up a plane yet because you were hovering an inch off the ground

Shadrack

Tylerman, I actually added a piece of CF to the foam over where I cut the battery slot. There was a piece long enough after cutting the rods for the elevator/rudder. Works great.

tylerman

I thought that all of the CF was pre-cut.

Everybody is using a 10x4.8 prop. Is it a better prop for this plane than the prop with one inch less pitch?(10x3.8)

Shadrack

The struts are, but not the control rods.