YearningtoFly

i will NEVER join a club after reading this thread

airborne2.4

Why?

YearningtoFly

i just left a hobby after a good ten year run that was destroyed by this type of inter-factionbull*****e

95% of the men you meet at these clubs are ex-apollo astronauts, doolitte raiders and jet jockeys....where is the leadership out of that ?

good lord, moses, mary and tony janus...........

Insanemoondoggie

You'll find clubs that reflect the same BS you found in this thread, but there are many clubs that are nothing like this. Take the time to look and you may just find one that works for you, then again, common courtesy is getting harder to find.

Warbirdguy

I belong to a club of over a 100 members. We have sail planes, scale planes, sport planes, 3d planes, electric planes, heli....things...lol, and some pattern planes. Heck, we even have a few "target" planes that show up and when things get quite, airsoft guns come out and we try and shoot em down.

You will be hard pressed to find any large club that doesnt have grumbling going on internally. Thats just the nature of the beast. A good, large club is like a big ole disfunctional family. They all hate each other, but, when the crap hits the fan, everyone pulls together and takes care of business. Thats a beautiful thing to see

My personal opinion, sounds like you need a different hobby. Maybe fishing? Or playing golf? Sounds like your not club type material (anti social)

For me, a multi facit club means you never know whats goint to show up at the field from week to week Check out our website and you will see alot of what we do http://coffeeairfoilers.com/

Yall have a great day.

WBG

YearningtoFly

not what I seek for leisure

cfircav8r

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I have been in this hobby since 1982 and have met my share of "ex space shuttle door gunners". I have also met some actual famous WWII fighter pilots, the comander of the VF-1 fighter squadron, and some all around great guys. When you are involved in a group whose members you did not personally choose there will always be those that you can't stand, can just tolerate, or plain never get to know, but you will also find some great friends and make some great memories. I have hundreds of stories because of the people I have flown with and around, and some of the best stories are because of those people that most of us complain about. Too many people can't have fun unless their expectations are being met at all times. I prefer to hang with those that have fun even when things are not going the way they planned, or hoped they would.

Propworn

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I may be from Canada but I have flown at enough clubs across the US to be able to say there isn't much difference between the clubs north and south of the border. Both organizations have some special interest groups or clubs and some even tend to be a bit picky about what you fly if you show interest in joining them. On the other hand 99 % could care less what you fly only that you fly within the club rules and AMA or MAAC safety guidelines. I show up on the spur of the moment and usually bring several different models to fly. I have always been made welcome and treated with respect. I have found all of the clubs I have attended except for one in Ontario to be a group of members with a common interest, to build and fly models. I see the whole scope from scratch built and detailed wonders to arfs. Large to small flat foam indoor planes, literally everything one could imagine all getting along. So who are these flyers that whine about how they are treated at a club? I have to think they are the ones who run afoul of the accepted practices and rules of the club. Instead of recognizing these practices and rules are compromises that try and take everyone's needs regardless of what they fly into consideration the poor baby starts to whine about it being a poor club because they won't change to accommodate his needs. Instead of trying to fit in these guys tend to cycle in and out of clubs as they wear out their welcome. Don't let the few loud complainers posting here deter you from thinking about joining a club. Several visits to a club you may be considering will put you in touch with the core element of that club. Chances are you will not only meet a grand bunch of people who enjoy flying but you may very well make contact with others who share your interests. Personal experience in regard to the big complainers tends to always be similar. When they don't get their way the first thing they do is to get on the internet and trash those who would dare to differ with them. Ever hear of any club bemoaning the loss of the companionship of these guys?

I see you are from Florida. One of my fellow club members winters in Florida (Bradenton) and belongs to the club in Sarasota (not sure of the spelling). I have flown there as a guest and everyone who I met were fantastic. Don't let a few complainers stop you from checking out the clubs in your area. You may be missing out on meeting some great people

Dennis

Daniel-EL

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I live in "up-tight" NW Ohio where 75% of the clubs are single-purpose driven insane asylums. My club, on the other hand, is extremely laid-back "good old-boys" style, fly whatever whenever attitude. It's great. I love it. I say keep looking, you'll find the club that fits your needs.

armyguy466

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i like 3d and i can do alittle bit. the whole reason why some people don't like is because 3D pilots demand the whole sky to do there tricks. also because there are alot of scale flyers out there that don't think its natural way of flying and alot of the stuff you can do in RC 3D you can't do in a real plane.

rctech2k7

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If you really like 3D, go ahead and keep on training, check your plane also and ask for 3D flight instructor. I believe if others can do it you can do it also, it’s a matter of time. Also simulator helps.

About your question I think is because, it's an aircraft, look like an airplane but partially helicopter. People are normally tend to the real one... 3D is fun but sometimes it causes misunderstanding at the field when others are flying. I believe lack of coordination or communication to fellow flyers or a little respect may work. And lastly, pilots are scared at the flight line. 3D for airplane eliminates the foremost principles of flying which is aerodynamics. Airspeed is the primary reason why airplanes are safe in the sky.

There's nothing wrong with 3D if done properly, it's part of our hobby. Airplanes are build as the same aircraft but with different purpose and application...

Warbirdguy

Your going to be one of those that just posts to biiiich. You completely missed my point and chose to pick out just one sentence to respond too. Oh well, narrow minded people like you dont need to be messing up mine and others day of recreation with your complaining and crying about how no one likes you and you cant get along with any club. Like I said before, go play golf or fish or something, and leave the fun stuff to the ones that enjoy it without listing to baby's crying.

WBG

I tried to be nice, but, it didnt work lol You already made me break my New Years resolution [&o]

wyo69cowboy

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I think part of the reason for the original title of this thread is that R/C is an individual hobby, and people express their interest/passion thru building, modifying, flying, etc and we DO like to share/show off to others what we can do, whether it's detailing out a scale warbird, building a screaming delta, or "throwing a cat in the air" 3Ding. It's when we run into others that don't share our same interest or passion that we run into problems. Those sometimes become the ones we can't stand. I spent the afternoon at our club's montly indoor fly in, mostly flying my FF Edge 540 epp foamy. Didn't seem to get anyone "hating" 3D, but I tried to stay outta the way some, and watched others fly helis, micros, and other 3D'ers. Had a great time!

YearningtoFly

Right.

Someone points outthecharade of the "helpful club" hidden under a false veneer of "acceptance" and they are b!tching.

Did you read this thread and what "club members" post about each others discipline of flying?

Do you go to the field and see all the the little cliques segregated ?

You posted yourself................ they hate each other.

I have been to threefields looking tojoinitsclearly evident.

Then come on here and see this thread......it is likeAuthentic CavalryLiving History Hobby all over again.

carddfann

Glad you said that. Good point. I've seen this happen at our field and even had one hover his fairly large plane directly over the pit area so close you could touch it with a broom. No respect for others or safety. That was the last straw and he was told to leave immediately. He gave some lip so we got the park ranger to come over and escort his azz out.

Luchnia

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I certainly think a lot of the attitudes being mentioned exist at various RC clubs. I am in two clubs and one is super fantastic, but it only has 10 members and they rarely fly much. So there is not much to make judgment against. When they do fly they are just laid back and smooth with no big deals and don't let anything get to them. Maturity is an amazing thing!

The other club I belong to has about 65-70 members and at times you can see some issues crop up. There are many opinions and perceptions of the best way to do things. When I first went there I thought to myself that this would be a tough group, however I gave it some time. I have found that most there are great guys and get along well. Some just don't warm up as fast as others and some never warm up.

People are people and our characters don't always line up with others. I am one that is not likely to group hug! [X(] I prefer to fly alone if I can and enjoy flying with a small group more than the larger groups. I have flown with a full roster of people and can handle it. It is just not my favorite. From an earlier post I believe this is really about respect and some don't have much of that.

Another thing to think about is if you find that the clubs are all full of dead ends and lamers then you could certainly look for some folks to form a new club and set the rules as you think would be best. That is what I plan to do if anything happens to the clubs I belong to. If you love 3D flying the most then seek out some fellow 3D flyers that share your interest or sport flying seek out like minded.

Happy flying [8D]

Jezmo

Lookin' good brother, lookin' good. It's been a while since I flew in a gymnasium but man is it fun. That pic is good memories for me.

Warbirdguy

You know, I did a little research on you ..yearningtofly...I went and look up all 17 post you made on other threads and its all the same. You are crying about a club you joined and it didnt work out. Seems you can accept that something might be wrong with you [X(] This thread is about 3d flying. Not about a club not liking you or vise versa.

Give it a rest. Beating a dead horse never produces a good outcome. Just gets the fly's buzzin and stinks up the place. Stop beating the dead horse LOL.

I dont hate 3d. I dont like it personally so I dont fly 3d. I like the airplanes that do the 3d flying. Some of the decorations and paint schemes are awsome. As long is it dont become a hazard to my plane, 3d'rs can 3d all they want. Only thing is, I never understood why you 3d'rs dont wear those special glasses like at movie theaters.

Ok, lunch time.

WBG

HoundDog

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"Ditto"

YearningtoFly

 never joined a club....I wanted to and visited a few and found divided hobbyists...then found this website and this thread and my thoughts were confirmed 

and it is specifically about exactly as stated in my first post of the thread:

infighting among factions in a hobby (e.g. 3D, warbirds, etc) and the lack of leadership which causes the decline and participation to the point it begins to threaten the very hobby itself in many places

can you talk about that or like warbirdguy you want to focus on the messenger ?

HoundDog

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Then go your marry way ... and we all wish U the best but I'm sure the "InFighters " won't miss U in the least. By, Buy, Bye

Warbirdguy

Ive been a member of RCU going on 7 years. In that time, Ive only blocked 1 person. Now its sad to say, I now have 2.

Its so wet and rainy right now here, I might take up foamy 3d'ing just so I can go to the church gym and fly something lol.



I know its a little off topic, but not much. Anyone ever actually hit any 3d plane hovering with their sport plane? Ive never heard of any incident. Just curious [8D]

rctech2k7

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This topic had reached a long way and there are plenty of ideas here. I've seen in the early part of this thread that seem might be the reason why they won’t allow us to fly jet at regular basis on some field. I love jets and scale aircraft, especially bigger scale but I respect even smaller than indoor aircraft. Jet is one of the advancement of our hobby and technology of an aircraft. It's one of the sophisticated aircraft of our time. Hopefully they will change that perspective as everyone learns from this about the value of respect.

I'm not limited in watching aerobatic flying of any kind but I love as well the circle flying of an aircraft with scale beauty from takeoff to landing.


For those who said "they can't fly, jealous" or something like that I can't say against them rather than "if they are interested". When I was young I heard the same story also but I’m interested in sports, it challenged me and somehow managed myself to go into scholarship at the university. Knowledge and skills can be developed by anyone who is seeking for it... The only matter is time...

rctech2k7

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The reason why it has a big aileron because it's for low speed, 3D also is part of our hobby that requires lots of skills, aircraft has a lot of capability because of power plant...

rctech2k7

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Love the airplane the way it flies... 3D or not. This privilege was given to us from Above and to the people who spend a lot of time and effort in developing this hobby... BTW though 3Ds doesn't have that much energy on its body, they have lots of energy on their engine... Even it doesn't use that much aerodynamics it is useful for some technology like VTOL and other aerospace research.