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Old 04-28-2004, 07:41 AM
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Default Diablotin XL like... (plan)

Hi,

If you wanna build one... happy building !

Wingspan: 86.5"
Length: 86.5"
Weight: 10.5 - 12 lbs.
Engine: DA-50, ZDZ 50

[link=http://membres.lycos.fr/bogarfield/Plans/DIABLO4.zip]Stodalotin[/link]

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Old 04-28-2004, 07:43 AM
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Old 04-28-2004, 08:18 AM
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We like builders like you PlagueWielder... do not hesitate to share it with friends !

Stay tune, soon many other pro quality plans for free.

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Hi Bogarfield, just downloaded your plan and look forward to building it! What program do the files open in?? And where can i get the program from??

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Oops, sorry. I personally use AutoCAD. Use any .dwg or .dxf editor.

Ex.: Volo View Express
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Old 04-28-2004, 10:33 AM
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cheers Bogarfield!!

is this plane got a thich or a thing wing section. like is it a funfly? or a 3D machine
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DA50 in a plane that light!!
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Old 04-28-2004, 12:45 PM
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I had 2 if these about 2 years ago (with BME 44 engines) Ali had one to, its a bit like flying a big sponge matress.
nice and easy to hover but roll rate was SLOW.

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Old 04-28-2004, 12:51 PM
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I've had two of these, first one with a zdz40, second with a DA50R. With either engine, Rx and battery needs to be placed in rear of fuse for proper CG. I'm on the waiting list for a BME55X, that would be the perfect engine for this plane. I think that, after assembling my Double Vision and 2.6m Yak55SP, I may just start building one of these from the plans to have ready for when the BME55X becomes available. They fly incredibly light, but I may modify mine for a shorter tail moment.
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Old 04-28-2004, 12:56 PM
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edible_engine , Is this answer to your questions ?

[link=http://www.paf-flugmodelle.de/Video/mpg/Diablotin.mpg]Video[/link]

Btw Sprink, it is a 44cc... methanol. The plane has been powered by 40, 50, 60cc Zdz and Zenoah 62. I can not speak by experience but I guess it could fly very well with a Moki 2.10 or so. Keep us informed if you try such engine, ty.

If this help, I'll take the time to translate references notes and size annotations.
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Old 04-28-2004, 02:07 PM
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That's a pretty lame video, who wants to see the dude, twice he he? If you notice, he doesn't have much throw in the elevators and rudder, the model comes only single bevelled. I double bevelled my tail surfaces for 45 degrees of throw each way. The XL does great Elevators, Harriers, Harrier landings, high alpha flying around, rolling high alpha. The weakest part is the rudder counter balance area, I've broken my rudder right in that corner during flight, now I always add a cross of carbon tape on both sides there.
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well edd. you seen the video!! sponge!!

i got to say i loved mine 2 odd years ago (thats why i had 2) but they are not upto todays standard of plane. Dkjens is right, as standard you get very little movement and you have to double bevell the surfaces. you also need VERY good aileron servos as they get blown back slowing the roll rate even more.

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i havent seen the vid dave. 9 mags would take to long on my puny dial up
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you aint missing anything ed
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Anybody else with problems with Volo View Express? I downloaded it here at work, but when trying to run/install the file I get a message that it's corrupt. I have AutoCad and SolidWorks at home, maybe I'll just view the plans there.
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LOL Downloaded the video, and the best bit had to be where he takes it appart and puts it in his VW Golf [&:]
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I cant get Volo View Express to work either, says the file is corrupt. Is there anyother programs that will run it?? I dont have Autocad, but i need to see this plan lol

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thanks, but that's too much for me....
i need somthing smaller, like diablotin super!
anybody have a plan? i would like to have one...
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ORIGINAL: Andy Rigby

I cant get Volo View Express to work either, says the file is corrupt. Is there anyother programs that will run it?? I dont have Autocad, but i need to see this plan lol

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YOu can download for free TurboCad. I have it and tis file works on it. Link to the download:
http://modelarz.com/pliki.php?itp=3&w=lista&offset=40
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thanks, but that's too much for me....
i need somthing smaller, like diablotin super!
anybody have a plan? i would like to have one...
I have plans for the Diablotin MINI(.21-40) Are You interested?
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Thank you for all your ARFers' point of vue. May I understand that your denigration comments are constructive ?

The goal of the thread is proposing a FREE plan to guys who want to built a nice flying airplane with low budget or who just like building planes. So we guessed very well that unknown TOC ARFers flyers, representing 10% or less of the r/c modeler park, do not need those plans.

Anyway, Djkens opinion seems a LOT more constructive. I will mind about the fact that it is only single side beveled + to strengthen the counter balanced area and may do the plan modifications as it is ask so friendly.

Also, we are drawing other ARF expensive models for FREE. You will have news soon. funtanas403d, sorry for the Diablotin super. We are working on an other well-known model.

I like to believe that there is still true r/c modelers who likes to share simply their hobby.

Have a good time,

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p.s.: Sorry for the link of Volo View Express. I'll delete it. Search for a .dwg or .dxf editor. Or better, go and ask a pro to print your A0 plan.
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Hello Boogie !!

We are very interested to share your plan with friends. If you want to send it to me, this could be nice.

Boogie... big party in 2 days my European friend !

Bye !

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I send you a mail check it.
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I fly the Diablotin Super park flyer w. os46ax and es cf pipe for 3 years now for fun and on showteam - my most favorite combo of all time. 2 years ago I had to have one of these xl's badly, I bought a zdz 40 and was on waiting list for xl when I had an opportunity to fly one that a local guy just got. I was not very impressed, it was like flying a king size air mattress or hot air balloon - the power to weight did not seem to be as good, it was very slow to react - harder to control - very loud. I cancelled my order and put the zdz40 on a pattern plane. I guess you could say it was like a huge boob, I was very excited but it was just too big.

potential problem: a local old timer/expert builder has tried to copy my diablotin super 3 diff times- all 3 planes came in 1-2 pounds heavier which makes a hugh difference in flying characteristic and level of 3d difficulty. he concludes that it is impossible to get real 2lb balsa necessary to keep weight down in this size.
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thats exactly what i was saying, good luck with the funtana though, you have a better plane to start with.

as for the diablotin super!! thats a different story, heres mine
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