Extra 260 27% Hangar 9er
05-20-2005, 02:25 PM
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RE: Extra 260 27% Hangar 9er
Still, considering that McConnville's plane weighs 15lbs with the DA, cannisters, and pilot:
15.00lbs his planeplane total
-3.1lbs engine with standoffs
-0.8lbs for cannister
-.6lbs for prop &spinner - max (you need a different spinner if yours weighs 6 ounces by itself..)
-.25lbs for a pilot
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10.25 pounds
and considering two other people weighed the entire contents at 8-8.25 pounds. And even without the motor mount it would be 7.5-7.75.
So, unless you failed to mention that you don't have any batteries, whatsoever, installed, or no landing gear, or no servos, or a combination of the sort, then I find it hard to believe. How could yours be 2.25 pounds lighter than Mike's or the other two guys...Okay, minus the mount - 1.75lbs?
15.00lbs his planeplane total
-3.1lbs engine with standoffs
-0.8lbs for cannister
-.6lbs for prop &spinner - max (you need a different spinner if yours weighs 6 ounces by itself..)
-.25lbs for a pilot
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10.25 pounds
and considering two other people weighed the entire contents at 8-8.25 pounds. And even without the motor mount it would be 7.5-7.75.
So, unless you failed to mention that you don't have any batteries, whatsoever, installed, or no landing gear, or no servos, or a combination of the sort, then I find it hard to believe. How could yours be 2.25 pounds lighter than Mike's or the other two guys...Okay, minus the mount - 1.75lbs?
05-20-2005, 03:23 PM
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RE: Extra 260 27% Hangar 9er
Guys,
Please don't flame me!!
Please STOP bickering about the weight!! Please stop bickering about what motor is better. By my count there are 3 flying so far that we know about. I'm sure there are more, but that's all that have been posted about. People are all going to do what they feel comfortable with and what they feel will work best for a plane this size. Six months from now when there are hundreds flying I have a feeling that we'll all know much better the 'perfect' setups for our own personal flying styles. I come and read these threads and ask questions so that I can learn and hopefully be a better modeler and pilot because of it. The arguments about scales, weight, and which motor is right, and this and that are really painful and a waste of BW to read through to get the good nuggets here and there.
I think from what I've been able to figure out; that for the price point, and with the hardware pack included that regardless of the motor that you choose to put on this plane that it's an exceptional value for the moneys. I was in the market for a 50cc sized plane, to me this is what that is. I ordered one because of how complete the hardware pack with the plane is, and I'm looking forward to building it. I will put either a DA-50 or a Brison 3.2 on it. I don't do glow anymore and I happen to like the size of this plane because I can put it in my Durango along with my 3 boys and another smaller 55!QUOT! plane and go to the field in the evening any time that time allows. To me that is more important. Spending time with the boys and doing it with something that we all enjoy. I know that there are bigger planes that might be more suited to the DA, however because I can't and won't do glow anymore this works for me. That's the point, this works for me, where it may not and likely will not for many others. That's the cool part about this hobby though, what works for one may work only in part for somebody else.
Can we come back on point with talking about the builds, and leave the name calling and bickering about weight who needs new scales, etc. out of it, please?!?!?
Ok, flame suit on... [
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Please don't flame me!!
Please STOP bickering about the weight!! Please stop bickering about what motor is better. By my count there are 3 flying so far that we know about. I'm sure there are more, but that's all that have been posted about. People are all going to do what they feel comfortable with and what they feel will work best for a plane this size. Six months from now when there are hundreds flying I have a feeling that we'll all know much better the 'perfect' setups for our own personal flying styles. I come and read these threads and ask questions so that I can learn and hopefully be a better modeler and pilot because of it. The arguments about scales, weight, and which motor is right, and this and that are really painful and a waste of BW to read through to get the good nuggets here and there.
I think from what I've been able to figure out; that for the price point, and with the hardware pack included that regardless of the motor that you choose to put on this plane that it's an exceptional value for the moneys. I was in the market for a 50cc sized plane, to me this is what that is. I ordered one because of how complete the hardware pack with the plane is, and I'm looking forward to building it. I will put either a DA-50 or a Brison 3.2 on it. I don't do glow anymore and I happen to like the size of this plane because I can put it in my Durango along with my 3 boys and another smaller 55!QUOT! plane and go to the field in the evening any time that time allows. To me that is more important. Spending time with the boys and doing it with something that we all enjoy. I know that there are bigger planes that might be more suited to the DA, however because I can't and won't do glow anymore this works for me. That's the point, this works for me, where it may not and likely will not for many others. That's the cool part about this hobby though, what works for one may work only in part for somebody else.
Can we come back on point with talking about the builds, and leave the name calling and bickering about weight who needs new scales, etc. out of it, please?!?!?
Ok, flame suit on... [
]BK
05-20-2005, 04:50 PM
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RE: Extra 260 27% Hangar 9er
Well it is finished! Dry weight is 12 pounds 2 ounces. Unless of course my scales are junk. If I am not mistaken the advertised weight range is 11.5 to 15.5 so I think they are ok. I will try to post a flight report if weather permits this weekend. No lead was needed to get the CG right with the OS 160.
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RE: Extra 260 27% Hangar 9er
ORIGINAL: drumbum
that means it should easily hit the 12 lb mark with the YS140 or the OS 160. and thats not doing extras to shave weight.. the only kicker to glow would be the larger tank.. I usually run Li-Pos so the battery weight isnt much. if you get on a weight cutting spree you could probably go lower..
that means it should easily hit the 12 lb mark with the YS140 or the OS 160. and thats not doing extras to shave weight.. the only kicker to glow would be the larger tank.. I usually run Li-Pos so the battery weight isnt much. if you get on a weight cutting spree you could probably go lower..
from post 105
man im a good guesser[sm=lol.gif]
05-20-2005, 05:13 PM
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RE: Extra 260 27% Hangar 9er
ORIGINAL: EXTRA ADDICT
Well it is finished! Dry weight is 12 pounds 2 ounces. Unless of course my scales are junk. If I am not mistaken the advertised weight range is 11.5 to 15.5 so I think they are ok. I will try to post a flight report if weather permits this weekend. No lead was needed to get the CG right with the OS 160.
Well it is finished! Dry weight is 12 pounds 2 ounces. Unless of course my scales are junk. If I am not mistaken the advertised weight range is 11.5 to 15.5 so I think they are ok. I will try to post a flight report if weather permits this weekend. No lead was needed to get the CG right with the OS 160.
BTW, for those of you that already have the plane, what is the diameter and length of the wing tube??? I have a TBM for a H9 Funtana that I haven't built and will probably sell to get this plane. It's diameter is 1.25", I believe, and I forget the length...
05-20-2005, 05:18 PM
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RE: Extra 260 27% Hangar 9er
How 'bout this one from post 88?
One of my OFB's bought the one I looked at...he's using an O.S. 1.60 too.
We weighed the individual components and got right around 8 lbs. also. (don't know exactly how accurate his old scale is )
Looks like I gotta get another one?!
ORIGINAL: proptop
I checked one out at the LHS today...
Looks real good, and built nice and light. I don't think it would come in at quite 15 lbs. though.
My guess would be more like 12-13 with a light engine and equipment. I was also thinking maybe an O.S. 1.60 or Saito 1.80 (because that's what I already have )
I had a WM 27% PW Extra (with a 3W-50 ) for awhile, and this new 260 feels substantially lighter, structure wise...
How about a ZDZ 40? I got a friend who's got an "extra" one lying around...hmmm
I checked one out at the LHS today...
Looks real good, and built nice and light. I don't think it would come in at quite 15 lbs. though.
My guess would be more like 12-13 with a light engine and equipment. I was also thinking maybe an O.S. 1.60 or Saito 1.80 (because that's what I already have )
I had a WM 27% PW Extra (with a 3W-50 ) for awhile, and this new 260 feels substantially lighter, structure wise...
How about a ZDZ 40? I got a friend who's got an "extra" one lying around...hmmm
We weighed the individual components and got right around 8 lbs. also. (don't know exactly how accurate his old scale is )
Looks like I gotta get another one?!
05-20-2005, 06:13 PM
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RE: Extra 260 27% Hangar 9er
Good guess drumbum! I would love to get some pics of the build in here. I think that when a bunch get flying we will all know how good this plane is.
I want to know the setup for an all out 3d plane! Thats all wnd when I build it I will make no compramises and spend all the money I can to get it to fly better than Mike's.
I want to know the setup for an all out 3d plane! Thats all wnd when I build it I will make no compramises and spend all the money I can to get it to fly better than Mike's.
05-20-2005, 08:04 PM
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RE: Extra 260 27% Hangar 9er
I flew the desert aircraft H9 Extra 260 at the Joe Nall event. Flew very light with a DA50 (ungodly power to weight ratio). The airplane had no mixing and flew pretty well. High alpha flying is fairly stable for small gasser. Only thing tank is in front and CG is affected as fuel consumes. Overall not bad for the price. But it can't be compare with Extreme flight and Quiqes Yak 54. I got a chance to fly Quiqes prototype 50C and this fly's better the most 33% planes out there. Absolutely no roll coupling and the 3D package is awesome.
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05-20-2005, 08:07 PM
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RE: Extra 260 27% Hangar 9er
well im trying to get in touch with EXTRA ADDICT... if we go out tomorrow and maiden it (that depends on weather) we will video it.. ive got the cam on charge now.. then i have to figure out how to compress it.. if i cant he can . both our NVIDIA cards will accept input but usualy when i do it they are MEGA size files
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RE: Extra 260 27% Hangar 9er
Well my Goldberg Sukhoi rocketed out of a hover with a Saito 150 and it was 11 pounds 2 ounces, the OS 160 has 1.2 more horse power at almost the same RPM so if it won't carry snacks to the space station from a hover well then I will just need to up the nitro from 20% to 30% and get a little more power. I knew that posting my plans here was gonna cause some arguements I just want to proove that you don't have to spend a fortune to have a good 3D machine. I don't think a 2 to 1 thrust ratio is needed it helps but for those who can't afford the DA 50 and things like that should know there are alternatives. Yes I could have ordered a DA50 for it can mufflers the whole nine yards but I just didn't want too. I want a plane that I can put in the air have fun with and not worry about how much money I will loose if it goes in. I have just under a grand in my setup minus the receiver. You can have that much in a 90 size. I think it will do fine so do many others and weather permitting we will find out tommorow!
05-20-2005, 09:40 PM
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RE: Extra 260 27% Hangar 9er
ORIGINAL: EXTRA ADDICT
I have just under a grand in my setup minus the receiver. You can have that much in a 90 size. I think it will do fine so do many others and weather permitting we will find out tommorow!
I have just under a grand in my setup minus the receiver. You can have that much in a 90 size. I think it will do fine so do many others and weather permitting we will find out tommorow!
Any pictures?
05-21-2005, 06:44 AM
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RE: Extra 260 27% Hangar 9er
ORIGINAL: Triton 3D
well guys would the 3W28i work??? would it get out a hover??[:'(][:'(][:@][]
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RE: Extra 260 27% Hangar 9er
Sorry I was stupid and didnt even think.......... well it seems week for that plane to me but, Oh well.
I got the combined airtime and rc cars magazine from horizon today and the plane looks sooooooo nice. Oh how I wish it was like 30% with a 87'' wingspan. Why, Why so small. It is a big misfit. Would of been better with more wing but we will see how the flights go.
I am going to croatia for a week in a half tomorow on a missions trip with my school so I will be lookiing foreward to flight reports and vids and pics on the plane. I am still considering it! Maybe with that OS 1.60 it will be a 3D monster. it could be that way?
I got the combined airtime and rc cars magazine from horizon today and the plane looks sooooooo nice. Oh how I wish it was like 30% with a 87'' wingspan. Why, Why so small. It is a big misfit. Would of been better with more wing but we will see how the flights go.
I am going to croatia for a week in a half tomorow on a missions trip with my school so I will be lookiing foreward to flight reports and vids and pics on the plane. I am still considering it! Maybe with that OS 1.60 it will be a 3D monster. it could be that way?
05-21-2005, 02:53 PM
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RE: Extra 260 27% Hangar 9er
ORIGINAL: Triton 3D
Thats the thing, i have one!! anyone interested in a 3W 28i? still in break in, only haff a gallon use...
Thats the thing, i have one!! anyone interested in a 3W 28i? still in break in, only haff a gallon use...
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RE: Extra 260 27% Hangar 9er
Triton 3-D,
I had asked Mike McConville about a Zenoah for the plane, and he told me the only Zenoah that would be light enough would be the G-26, so I dont see why the 28 wouldnt fly it...the key word being "FLY".
Would probably just be enough for Basic IMAC/ Aerobatics but nothing more.......
I had asked Mike McConville about a Zenoah for the plane, and he told me the only Zenoah that would be light enough would be the G-26, so I dont see why the 28 wouldnt fly it...the key word being "FLY".
Would probably just be enough for Basic IMAC/ Aerobatics but nothing more.......