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Thank you for the information on the pictures...much easier than what I read on another way with links and all...
Build of plane is second to none..but check out the covering on the stab...[:'(] will have to call about that..but don't want to have to rebuild those stabs...the servos...luckily friend took his time and did pro job installing the servos..watch the wire..the servo will set down on it,,,oh after the ribs are trimmed to get 5625's in...but other than that everything has gone together perfect...definitely a cut above any other arf I have ever put together...love being able to put tank on CG...FROM THE FACTORY...but the covering could use some work
Build of plane is second to none..but check out the covering on the stab...[:'(] will have to call about that..but don't want to have to rebuild those stabs...the servos...luckily friend took his time and did pro job installing the servos..watch the wire..the servo will set down on it,,,oh after the ribs are trimmed to get 5625's in...but other than that everything has gone together perfect...definitely a cut above any other arf I have ever put together...love being able to put tank on CG...FROM THE FACTORY...but the covering could use some work
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RE: Ultra R/C Giles 202 UL 29%
Your welcome! And thanks to all who answered my questions as well. The covering on the stabs on mine is ths same. I never noticed it. I just assumed it was supposed to be that way. Did you have any truoble with the holes for the pin hinges? Shouldn't the pins fit snug in the holes? I redrilled the holes 1/2" from the original ones seemed like an easy fix well gotta get back to it
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Wow..well on the covering..I did look at the pictures of the prototype and it was exactly the same as our..guess Chris wasn't lieing when he said the prototypes were the same as what we would get...I posted the weight of everything yesterday...
I WANT TO THANK ULTRA-R/C AND EVERYONE INVOLVED FOR PRODUCING AN ARF TO THE WEIGHT THAT WAS ADVERTISED !!
We'll see how she flies later but just very happy now that we have a good base to start off with
On the hinges...no problems here just with elevator servo fit and crimping the wire on the rib..the antirotation dowels needed little force to get the angle that is needed.
I WANT TO THANK ULTRA-R/C AND EVERYONE INVOLVED FOR PRODUCING AN ARF TO THE WEIGHT THAT WAS ADVERTISED !!
We'll see how she flies later but just very happy now that we have a good base to start off with
On the hinges...no problems here just with elevator servo fit and crimping the wire on the rib..the antirotation dowels needed little force to get the angle that is needed.
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RE: Ultra R/C Giles 202 UL 29%
Chris,
The plane comes with a tube that goes in the fuse that has 2 doughnut looking parts that can support the tube in the fuse....I see on the prototype that you don't have that installed..
I'm trying to figure out how that piece would help..do I need it?
The plane comes with a tube that goes in the fuse that has 2 doughnut looking parts that can support the tube in the fuse....I see on the prototype that you don't have that installed..
I'm trying to figure out how that piece would help..do I need it?
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RE: Ultra R/C Giles 202 UL 29%
Iceman30,
In the initial samples there was no provision for the internal wing tube support in the fuselage. My two proto-types with the Brison 2.4 and the OS 1.60 did not utilize the support. However, with the wings installed, you may notice a minimal amount of up and down movement (slop) in the wings against the side of the fuse. By installing the internal wing tube supports in the fuselage, this movement (slop) can me reduced to virtually no movement at all.
Now, because of the floating wing position feature, you can not glue the internal wing tube supports into place. As indicated in the instruction manual, we recommend building this assembly and fixing it in place with two screws on each side. You have to be careful not to drill through the side of the fuse as well as not to use too long of a screw. A suggestion would be to mount two rails on the sides of the fuselage (two on each side.....an upper and a lower) and screwing the plywood donut shaped support to the rail. This will provide you with enough room to use standard length screws without having to worry about exiting through the side of the fuselage. Using this method will allow you to position the internal wing tube support in multiple positions equal to the positions you choose for your wing placement. Make sure you wait to mount the internal wing tube supports until you have mounted the wings. This will allow the supports to center themselves in the proper positions on the tube before mounting. I hope this makes sense. Please post with any additional questions.....I will monitor email and RCU most of the weekend.
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In the initial samples there was no provision for the internal wing tube support in the fuselage. My two proto-types with the Brison 2.4 and the OS 1.60 did not utilize the support. However, with the wings installed, you may notice a minimal amount of up and down movement (slop) in the wings against the side of the fuse. By installing the internal wing tube supports in the fuselage, this movement (slop) can me reduced to virtually no movement at all.
Now, because of the floating wing position feature, you can not glue the internal wing tube supports into place. As indicated in the instruction manual, we recommend building this assembly and fixing it in place with two screws on each side. You have to be careful not to drill through the side of the fuse as well as not to use too long of a screw. A suggestion would be to mount two rails on the sides of the fuselage (two on each side.....an upper and a lower) and screwing the plywood donut shaped support to the rail. This will provide you with enough room to use standard length screws without having to worry about exiting through the side of the fuselage. Using this method will allow you to position the internal wing tube support in multiple positions equal to the positions you choose for your wing placement. Make sure you wait to mount the internal wing tube supports until you have mounted the wings. This will allow the supports to center themselves in the proper positions on the tube before mounting. I hope this makes sense. Please post with any additional questions.....I will monitor email and RCU most of the weekend.
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RE: Ultra R/C Giles 202 UL 29%
Brian Have emailed several times no response. Ordered in July. Order # 1134. Will I get one.
also ordered wing bags no order confirmation.
also ordered wing bags no order confirmation.
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That answered my ? I have purchased the material to make the rails already..just wanted to make sure it was there for a good reason...guess strep throat has me looking to find the easy way out..[:@]beautiful weekend and i'm sick as a dog...work some..rest..work some...
oh, everything seemed to be in my kit but 2 of the soilder threaded 3mm (guessing) ends were missing from the bags...only had 2 come..so switched to 2-56 rod and ends on Air. due to close in size as the stock ones and no metric at LHS...was no more than an extra trip to LHS...cost more in gas than the parts...
oh, everything seemed to be in my kit but 2 of the soilder threaded 3mm (guessing) ends were missing from the bags...only had 2 come..so switched to 2-56 rod and ends on Air. due to close in size as the stock ones and no metric at LHS...was no more than an extra trip to LHS...cost more in gas than the parts...
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RE: Ultra R/C Giles 202 UL 29%
Ernies,
I have replied to everyone of your emails. In addition, we emailed you the UPS Shipping Notification on 9/20/05. Your Giles was sent on the 20th. Here is the tracking number: 1Z688Y0R0340922587 You must be having a problem with your mail-server.
Attention Customers:
Please do not post questions related to personal orders or shipments here in the thread. I monitor all emails. Please email me first, or PM me through RCU. I will post general information pertaining to production runs and production shipments here as the information becomes available. I will monitor, and reply, to your questions regarding the assembly and set-up of the Giles. Thank you for your cooperation and understanding.
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I have replied to everyone of your emails. In addition, we emailed you the UPS Shipping Notification on 9/20/05. Your Giles was sent on the 20th. Here is the tracking number: 1Z688Y0R0340922587 You must be having a problem with your mail-server.
Attention Customers:
Please do not post questions related to personal orders or shipments here in the thread. I monitor all emails. Please email me first, or PM me through RCU. I will post general information pertaining to production runs and production shipments here as the information becomes available. I will monitor, and reply, to your questions regarding the assembly and set-up of the Giles. Thank you for your cooperation and understanding.
Sincerely,
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RE: Ultra R/C Giles 202 UL 29%
Brian...
so far...WELL WORTH THE WAIT !!!!! I JUST LIKE LOOKING AT IT...i had to strip a H9 Edge..the old 27% to get servos, os 1.60 and such out to put in this...HOLY COW the quality difference is INSANE..
then my buddy came over and we pulled up your post on the weight of the parts.....MINE WAS +1, -1 OZ at MOST different than yours !!!!
Weighing all of my hardware, engine..fuel tank..even the plates to put on CG adding on calculator puts me at the 10.3lbs. mark !!!!!! EXCELLENT !!!!
......33 YRS...OLD KID NOW...MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ME !!
so far...WELL WORTH THE WAIT !!!!! I JUST LIKE LOOKING AT IT...i had to strip a H9 Edge..the old 27% to get servos, os 1.60 and such out to put in this...HOLY COW the quality difference is INSANE..
then my buddy came over and we pulled up your post on the weight of the parts.....MINE WAS +1, -1 OZ at MOST different than yours !!!!
Weighing all of my hardware, engine..fuel tank..even the plates to put on CG adding on calculator puts me at the 10.3lbs. mark !!!!!! EXCELLENT !!!!
......33 YRS...OLD KID NOW...MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ME !!
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RE: Ultra R/C Giles 202 UL 29%
Iceman30,
Thank you for your comments. We really appreciate your support and happiness with the Giles. We believe the Giles will be a huge success. It took a lot of effort and creativity to come up with the construction techniques to keep the weight down and maintain strength. These techniques will be the basis for many new designs in the near future. Please continue to post your thoughts and any questions and I do my best to post replies ASAP.
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Thank you for your comments. We really appreciate your support and happiness with the Giles. We believe the Giles will be a huge success. It took a lot of effort and creativity to come up with the construction techniques to keep the weight down and maintain strength. These techniques will be the basis for many new designs in the near future. Please continue to post your thoughts and any questions and I do my best to post replies ASAP.
Sincerely,
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RE: Ultra R/C Giles 202 UL 29%
Brian
Will you be out at the field trying the plane tomorrow? I was wondering where is the stab in relation to the wing and the thrust line? Are they all in line? Is the stab above or below the wing?
Brent
Will you be out at the field trying the plane tomorrow? I was wondering where is the stab in relation to the wing and the thrust line? Are they all in line? Is the stab above or below the wing?
Brent
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RE: Ultra R/C Giles 202 UL 29%
Brent..she isn't finished...good bit left to do..line is like an edge...big yard dart with the swept back wings...
gotta mount motor, cowl, throttle
fuel tank mount
wing tube support
that's about it except set up like wing position for cg and secure them for flight and setting all the controls..but that's like 8 hrs of work for me..
I got sick Friday..strep throat..so I havn't been working too much without having to take breaks..stopped at like 4 today
oh, landing gear would help..darn more to do...oh well should get it pretty close tomorrow..might just have details left..depends on how i feel
how is your repair going? is the engine ok?
gotta mount motor, cowl, throttle
fuel tank mount
wing tube support
that's about it except set up like wing position for cg and secure them for flight and setting all the controls..but that's like 8 hrs of work for me..
I got sick Friday..strep throat..so I havn't been working too much without having to take breaks..stopped at like 4 today
oh, landing gear would help..darn more to do...oh well should get it pretty close tomorrow..might just have details left..depends on how i feel
how is your repair going? is the engine ok?
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No repairs. Picked up Russ's 29% edge. The motor didn't even get touched. It was a pretty soft crash. Just broke the fuse. KE through the trees when I fell out of a rolling harrier. I am making some changes to the air frame. That is why I was asking about the placement of the horiz. stab Are the wing and the stab in line with each other? I am hoping to have it at the meeting next sat.
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Finally got to fly ours with YS 1.40 after trying for a month for the engine to dial in right. Needless to say the combo of the 2 is rather impressive at 10 lbs 4 oz. I've got a couple pull out videos to post in next couple days.
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I have some new pictures...almost ready to set up throws...did find I couldn't in anyway mount my os 1.6 with the head horizontal ! I was going to mount it like it was in my edge...but it would not line up BUT inverted it lines up perfect with the measurments given in the instructions..
CAN ANYONE HELP ME FIND AN INVERTED PITTS STYLE MUFFLER FOR THE 1.6? [X(]
Thanks everyone
CAN ANYONE HELP ME FIND AN INVERTED PITTS STYLE MUFFLER FOR THE 1.6? [X(]
Thanks everyone
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I have some new pictures...almost ready to set up throws...did find I couldn't in anyway mount my os 1.6 with the head horizontal ! I was going to mount it like it was in my edge...but it would not line up BUT inverted it lines up perfect with the measurments given in the instructions..
CAN ANYONE HELP ME FIND AN INVERTED PITTS STYLE MUFFLER FOR THE 1.6? [X(]
Thanks everyone
I have some new pictures...almost ready to set up throws...did find I couldn't in anyway mount my os 1.6 with the head horizontal ! I was going to mount it like it was in my edge...but it would not line up BUT inverted it lines up perfect with the measurments given in the instructions..
CAN ANYONE HELP ME FIND AN INVERTED PITTS STYLE MUFFLER FOR THE 1.6? [X(]
Thanks everyone
http://www.slimlineproducts.com/onli...rted_pitts.htm
2138 OS 160 FX 1 Inverted Pitts Muffler with
mounting hardware
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Another one to consider--not sure how it would fit inverted, but maybe at 45°?
http://ohiomodelplanes.com/pipes/
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The only thing about that one is it wraps around the back of the head of the motor and they don't list any specs..will order it..but I sent pm to Chris to see which one he is running..hopfully he will get back to me soon ...hope to fly this coming weekend
Setting the motor up to fit the cowl I have 1 and 3/8th inch between back muffler bolt hole and the fire wall to work with so like 1 inch or less between head and fire wall..can't move motor out at all..
Setting the motor up to fit the cowl I have 1 and 3/8th inch between back muffler bolt hole and the fire wall to work with so like 1 inch or less between head and fire wall..can't move motor out at all..
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you have a point...i weighed the mounts in the kit 2.2 oz.....os stock is 33oz..when i weighed mine..well had bolts and nuts weighed 45 oz..may save me the 5 or 6 oz that i seem to be heavy over the prototype.
now to just find a muffler to fit my inverted 1.6...that will fit
now to just find a muffler to fit my inverted 1.6...that will fit
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I like slimline mufflers and they make one that would go inverted for the OS 160. I'm not sure if they have one, but also look into a Jtec. Then there's Bisson. They seem to be constrictive to me, but it's your money. I'd really like to put an EVO 26 in one of these, but I don't know how it would perform here at 5000 ft.
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ORIGINAL: ben beyer
I like slimline mufflers and they make one that would go inverted for the OS 160. I'm not sure if they have one, but also look into a Jtec. Then there's Bisson. They seem to be constrictive to me, but it's your money. I'd really like to put an EVO 26 in one of these, but I don't know how it would perform here at 5000 ft.
I like slimline mufflers and they make one that would go inverted for the OS 160. I'm not sure if they have one, but also look into a Jtec. Then there's Bisson. They seem to be constrictive to me, but it's your money. I'd really like to put an EVO 26 in one of these, but I don't know how it would perform here at 5000 ft.
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I'm not spending $800 on an engine for this plane. I'd really like to go gas so I may also look into the Brison 2.4.
I'm not spending $800 on an engine for this plane. I'd really like to go gas so I may also look into the Brison 2.4.
You may consider a mildly tuned pipe on the OS160. Jett has the Turbo Jett and OMP has a pipe that will give it some extra go go with out making it peaky.
A heavy gasser on this bird will for sure diminish its slow 3D capabilities at 5000 feet. This is very relative though, as the wing loading is still much less than what could be attained with an arf of this size not so long ago--so it may still fly like a dream to you depending on what you are acclimated to.