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Old 06-24-2015, 08:34 AM
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... be kind in the comments.
Got it up. Got it down. Only had to bend over once to pick it up.

That's a good maiden flight!
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Old 06-24-2015, 08:43 AM
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Yeah...I would call it a success! It would have made a mildly crappy day even crappier had I dumped that brand new plane! Immediately after that flight....I set the dual rates for real with some expo and life was good....had a very mello second flight without any of the drama. That old DL-50 is purring right along with the new carb, ring, and ignition.....I was getting 6800 on a 3 blade Mezj 20x10....I think thats in the ballpark. Sorry for the potty mouth at the end....I was a little excited...

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Old 06-27-2015, 10:37 PM
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Here is another electric GP Ultimate 1.60

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV1dJz_ZlJk
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Old 06-27-2015, 10:47 PM
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Here is one idea regarding the battery packs:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2116534
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Old 08-30-2015, 09:13 AM
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I Just installed a dl50 in my ultimate and i find it's too much engine, spinning a 22x8 it climbs at 1/4 throttle almost impossible to hover too much power, I like my planes to hove at just under 3/4 throttle thinking a dle35ra any thoughts?
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Old 08-31-2015, 05:40 AM
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I had a DA-50 on mine. The extra power I thought was good, but that is me. Can you program a throttle curve or lower your throttle endpoint in your transmitter? The other thing would be to mechanically limit your throttle arm so it only goes like 85% open. I would not go with a smaller engine. A 35cc is probably good for a 10 lb plane but not a 15 lb plane.

The problem I had with hovering is that I could not get enough aileron to stop the torque roll.
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Old 08-31-2015, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by chrispol View Post
I Just installed a dl50 in my ultimate and i find it's too much engine, spinning a 22x8 it climbs at 1/4 throttle almost impossible to hover too much power, I like my planes to hove at just under 3/4 throttle thinking a dle35ra any thoughts?
I think what you mean is the power comes on to quickly, learn how to apply throttle curve to fix this. Sorry not trying to put words in your mouth just trying to help.
Oh, please dont limit throttle opening, that will make me cry .
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Old 08-31-2015, 10:53 AM
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No with my dl50 0-1/4 throttle is hovering, since my smoke only starts at 1/2 throttle to full throttle this sort of bites, doing a throttle curve would be pointless, ordered a dle-40 twin 20# for a 13# plane should act better

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I think what you mean is the power comes on to quickly, learn how to apply throttle curve to fix this. Sorry not trying to put words in your mouth just trying to help.
Oh, please dont limit throttle opening, that will make me cry .
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Old 08-31-2015, 12:20 PM
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Oh, whole different ballpark. So you want to hover with enough throttle to get good smoke.I see.
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Old 08-31-2015, 12:34 PM
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What is better than an ultimate hovering with smoke? a nice harrier pass into a hover, my harriers are just over idle I could drop to a 22x8 but with the 40twin will be in the power band
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Old 11-30-2015, 10:32 AM
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My GP Ultimate turned into a Decepticon this weekend so I had to Kill it...... I threw it into a Blender and it literally exploded.....it rained down pieces for at least a minute. I was pretty high up.....got it rotating then threw the sticks to the corners and BOOM.....the wings disentigrated and the fuse came down like a lawn dart......I would have been highly impressed....if it weren't MY airplane......


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Originally Posted by castlebravo View Post
My GP Ultimate turned into a Decepticon this weekend so I had to Kill it...... I threw it into a Blender and it literally exploded.....it rained down pieces for at least a minute. I was pretty high up.....got it rotating then threw the sticks to the corners and BOOM.....the wings disentigrated and the fuse came down like a lawn dart......I would have been highly impressed....if it weren't MY airplane......


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Sorry to hear that castlebravo, yep been there did that, the Ultimates can not handle that kind of pressure they will explode after about the third turn, mine did the same except the fuse also broke in half right behind the canopy, I was very impressed but lost a cyl. 4 servos and a ignition still looking for the battery's. oh heck its only money and someone had the nerve to come up to me and say can you do that again so i can get it on video.
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Old 11-30-2015, 02:37 PM
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LOL! Yeah...I wish we had this one on video. I wasnt too broken up about it 'cause it was a used airplane that I got for a great price and I stuffed it with a bunch of stuff I had laying around....but still......I was really bummed because I had just put one of those Flex Innovations Gyros in it and it was a blast to fly! I think the gyro survived (I haven't gone through the carcass yet...just happened yesterday...) so I may end up putting it in a H9 Carden Yak I have.
I dont even think this thing made one turn....as soon as I put the sticks in the corner.....confetti! I gotta see if the spar was glued in properly but it wont make a difference....still comin home in a trash bag...

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Old 11-30-2015, 02:40 PM
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[QUOTE=castlebravo;12134524]LOL! Yeah...I wish we had this one on video. I wasnt too broken up about it 'cause it was a used airplane that I got for a great price and I stuffed it with a bunch of stuff I had laying around....but still......I was really bummed because I had just put one of those Flex Innovations Gyros in it and it was a blast to fly! I think the gyro survived (I haven't gone through the carcass yet...just happened yesterday...) so I may end up putting it in a H9 Carden Yak I have.
I dont even think this thing made one turn....as soon as I put the sticks in the corner.....confetti! I gotta see if the spar was glued in properly but it wont make a difference....still comin home in a trash bag...

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maybe the GYRO said *** and detonated.
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Old 11-30-2015, 07:53 PM
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Had you reenforced the dihedral blocks? I'm trying to think of where the stress points would be in a blender(?) It does snap that wing root when you flatten out.

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Old 12-01-2015, 07:21 AM
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Had you reenforced the dihedral blocks? I'm trying to think of where the stress points would be in a blender(?) It does snap that wing root when you flatten out.
Tonight when I pull "the remains" outta the truck I'll try to figure out where the break was. I bought this one used so I dont know if the spars were reinforced. It pulled the entire cabane strut assembly out and both the interplane struts had the screws secured but they pulled free...sans screws also. It was pretty violent!


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Old 12-01-2015, 10:02 AM
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Had one of these some time back. I had a DLE 50 on it and it was a great 3D flyer. The only thing to watch for is you need to make sure of the upper wing joint security. Mine had the metal center rib and it failed due to poor bonding. you need to be sure the bonding is GOOD.
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Old 12-02-2015, 10:34 AM
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It looks like both spars broke in half. Niether were reinforced and the bottom wing looked like it could use a little more epoxy as there was very little bonding the wings together. The top wing had an adequate amount bonded to the metal center rib because there are torn wood fibres still bonded. Pretty sure the bottom wing failed first then the top wing seperated....but it was still instantaneous. Still haven't hosed off the mud from the DL-50 so dont know if it survived but it looks like most of the electronics came out OK...we'll see tonight.

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Old 09-07-2016, 10:33 AM
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Something good happening next October?

See: http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...FQuFaQodm9IBBg

and...

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...I=GPMA1307&P=Z
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Old 09-07-2016, 07:22 PM
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That is strange!
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Old 09-09-2016, 08:52 AM
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It seems to be the same version as the older model.
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It is indeed back...

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXKJB5&P=ML
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Old 11-20-2016, 12:13 PM
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I have a NIB VVRC 40 twin I am going to put in mine. Should power it just fine.
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Old 11-20-2016, 05:02 PM
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Complete parts list also! I wonder if they saw the big hole Aeroworks made in the biplane market? Still have mine never flew it
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Tempted to just buy another one....
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