LANNYBOB

mine has a thunder tiger 120 2 stroke in it. but i need to order a slim line pitts for it in order to fit the cowl. i will fly it without the cowl for now because thats just the way i do it until the engine is well broken in and reliable. no added weight with mine also. it balanced perfectly.

Planeclothes

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No, no added weight to balance on mine. I have the OS 120 AX with stock power box with 90 degree adapter. I built a couple of rails between formers inside the fuse that allow me to move the receiver battery in either direction (front or back) to balance the plane.

Planeclothes

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The "rails" are covered with velcro and I also used stick on velcro on the battery pack. I added rubber bands for extra security.

kochj

Well, I did some number punching....
O.S. 120 ax w/stock exhaust ( all adapters are used to fit in this plane) gives a total of 1,111 g or 38.189 ounces.. The poser box is heavy... Its like having a 26cc tuned alum.pipe and iron header on the plane.
A O.S. 160FX 930g +109g for a MVVS small incowl 3298/26 muffler gives me a total of 1,039g or 36.650 ounces I think the 160fx is a real possibility ....
I can then use the 160fx for other planes when I am done with this one......not to mention the awesome reserve power!!!

Planeclothes

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First of all, you don't need ALL adapters for this plane, only the 90 degree. The 120 AX with power box and 90 degree adapter weighs 29.9 oz, the 1.60 FX with no muffler is 32 1/2 oz. I have both engines, I use the 1.60 in my 1/4 scale Gene Soucy Extra, plenty of power for that plane. I wouldn't put this power plant in the Funtana, the airframe is too light, too fragile, and besides you don't need the extra power. I fly my Funtana/120 AX at half throttle or less most of the time and I have unlimited vertical with this engine, not to mention lighter wingload and cheaper to run. IMO, the so called "reserve power" you mention has no use in this plane and can only cause more harm than good. As an extra bonus, I have very little cleaning to do after a flying session, for some reason, the 120 AX runs extremely clean, much cleaner than anything I have owned before (except electrics), including the 1.60 FX.

MIXMASTER

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Ditto here on the 120AX,I only needed the 90 deg. adaptor and for some reason I get very little oil on the bottom, a little on one wing and stab half. Pullout in hovers is great with Zinger 17X5,best combo I've ever had. I dont need a fuel system with this engine,10% nitro is all thats needed and the mid range is so clean and responsive hovering is no problem at all(its hovering in the mid-range). I have the confidence to get her down on the deck. With this plane/engine there is no need to waste $$ on 4-strokes,20-30% nitro,its just about perfect. I got her down to 6" again this weekend TR'ing,I dont even think about tail touching when its spinning like a top,but when its calm I can sometimes keep it from rolling long enough to go for the touch. What a rush,sometimes I have to practice deep-slow breathing to keep from hyper-ventilating. I love this shi#@#! I've been flying it in windy conditions too,not down on the deck but old-school stuff like 4-pointers,rolling circles,this thing is very smooth in wind,barely moves at all-I'll say it again,if you cant afford 35-40%,this is as good as it gets in 90-120 size.

DrDeath

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Talking about different props. I have a Saito 125 that I just switched from an APC 16x4W to a 16.5x5W. I forgot to TAC it but you can feel the difference. The wind was 12 - 15 when I went up and I will try it again on a calmer day. But, for those of you using this engine, this is a much better prop from a thrust and power standpoint then the 16x4W. Definitely worth a try.

DD

RTolle

I ran a 1.6 FX with a bisson pitts muffler on my original F90 with a APC 16x8. Plane came out at 9.25lbs AUW. Everything balanced perfect and I got about 20min on the stock tank in the stock location. You have to have some throttle management skills to prevent overspeeding the plane but the raw power was amazing. Perfect engine combo IMHO. I now have a 100X on the way and it's getting the same set-up.

Go big or go home.

Jeff_edge540

I'm using the 120AX with the 90 degree adapter and did not add any weight.. I have the 5 cell battery and receiver in the stock location and doing fine (a tad tail heavy ~.25" - but not bad at all). I'm running the 120 rich on 5% and it accelerates out of a hover like theres no tomorrow (APC 16x6).

kochj

It makes the most sense to me..... Like the previous said he runs it in his gensoucey and it is great.... THe 120ax is nearly in the 1.60 price range and I can't think of a better reason to get the 1.60fx.... When I scrap the 100x I can get tons of other planes that fit the 1.60fx..... I really think I wound't go down in size, only up.... I loved the vid of chip hydes cap x with a 50cc DA. Awesome! and that is the kind of power I want..... only 4.oz diff. with my set up (subtracting the 7oz adapter from the poser box)

MIXMASTER

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I had bad results when I used any 4-stroke & 4 pitch props,seems like 4 pitch does not put a sufficient load on it,its all RPM and no pull,just burns up the motor IMO. But I,m done with them anyway,the 1.60 must be just SICK on the X100. I,m sure it will mount OK and even fly OK,enough wing to support it,vibration is another thing,my 120 gets the ailerons wagging at certain RPM's,must be worse with the 160.My flight time is 16 min. max with stock tank,I get 20 min with my UCD/OS108 & stock tank. Time for a tank upgrade and I need more rcv battery,I have 2000mah Nimh & only get 5 flights max, I found 2700mah at RC Accessory. The weight will suffer some but I think the harriers will be better with more nose weight,its very touchy on rudder and tends to stay put in any kind of head wind,I've dropped the elevator throw to get it to plow forward but still needs something. I cant figure out how to get more spoileron throw while less elevator throw,the mix wont allow it.I'm supposed to be the Mixmaster, but I'm stumped!

NCIS

Do all the Funtana 100's come with the tinted canopy?

Gibbs

MIXMASTER

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Mine was tinted and had instrument decal pre-installed.

NCIS

Thanks Mixmaster,

Anybody out there have HS635HB Hitec servo's in there Funtana 100? I already bought these and want to use them. Now I hear a lot of negative things about the Karbonite gears. How about some positive feedback by pilots using them. I really don't want to hear a bunch more negative's please. You guy's that have Hitecs let me hear your opinions.

Thank You,

Gibbs

Planeclothes

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kochj,
Yes, the 1.60 runs great in the Gene Soucy, but this is a 13 1/2 lb plane compared to the +-9 lb Funtana. Like I said before, I have both engines, the 120 runs great right out of the box, the 1.60, if you are not using the stock muffler, it can be very temperamental, I had to add a Perry pump to mine to solve the lack of pressure I was getting from my pitts muffler. But I suspect you already made up your mind about scrapping your Funtana, so good luck.[8D]

NCIS,
I have 635s on my 1/4 scale Extra elevators with no problems so far. I'm also using them for my Funtana's elevator along with CS-70MGs for rudder and ailerons.

kochj

planeclothes,
Did'nt mean to cause a disturbance but it was strictly a money issue. I was betting on a 160fx NIB on ebay w/o a muffler. I felt if I could get it for the same cost of the os 120 I would go with it. It didn't pan out.... os 120ax w/muffler 245$ \TMDS 265-20OFF - NO SHIPPING but the 160fx bid went to 222no muffler. PLUS 16 FOR SHIPPING that meant buy a Pitts 40 more.... thats 23 more than I wanted to pay. ANYWAY. Iknow, because of the way I fly this funtana100x and the fact that is is quite fragile, I will total it out... I will make a mistake that will destroy the plane..... No one is perfect and if you fly this plane the way it should be flown, it will go down eventually. That is what I meant by scrapping it..... To all that define themselfs as flawless are not human..... I have my 33% cap that I can fly more carefully and perform PRACTICED TRICKS, not practicing on it....
I have to admit that I really don't like they way this plane flies as of yet.... And if you say that with the setup you have you really enjoy it and plenty of pullout with the 120 ax with the poser box, than I have to give it a shot...... THe one thing I don't want to do is put a heavy engine in the plane again and have it fly heavy..... Mixmaster says that w/this combo it will pull out and give unlimited verticals and float like a feather than I will try it..... I should use the engine that works with the current plane not any possible future ones....... I will put the order in tonight at towerhobbies and let the rebuilding begin....... AGAIN\!!!
Justin

2walla

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I would suggest that before you bolt up your motor of choice, look into the wing and observe how it is constructed. It appears that the ribs are built up out of 4-5 pieces. It is all laser cut an beautifully crafted, however, it has jack for strength. I saw a friends plane on the third flight have the right wing servo rip out of the wing. The plane was not being nor had been abused- 120 Surpass for power-high end futaba servo with carbon fiber push rods w/ball joints. 1/3 throttle slight upline w/full rate roll the wing went bang and the servo was dangling by the cord and the aileron linkage. He luckily managed to land it without further damage. Post flight revealed that the built up ribs in the right wing failed and let the servo mount rip out. The right wing lost most all of the rib pieces out the hole from the servo and the left wing had about 50% of the rib parts floating around inside the wing. It didn't appear that any glue was wasted putting this thing together. Look down the wing and see for yourself.... I would suggest opening up the bottom of the wing and putting some reinforcement on the ribs as well as half a bottle of CA. This plane is an excellent flyer and a 160 would make it rock- but work the wing over first!

kochj

Thanks for the advise 2walla\:
I had made a landing in a field that was mowed the the wrong way giving it a cross wind landing in 12mph winds. This wasn't to much fun landing this plane with limited landing space..... I had made a mistake by erasing the expo on hi-rates, I had skipped over this prior to flying. The end result was a cartwheel on landing because I had to go to high rates just to have enough control when trying to land..... Planting wing root to wing root......... I know what you are talking about inside the wing roots... Although the wing did not destroy (I was pissed and went up and flew it 3more times) it did loose 3 of these cut out wood pieces that are placed in the wing root for support and cracked ever slightly in the same place inside the closest wing ribs........ I will take your advice when I open it up for a quick fix......... It didn't appear that any of the wing root wood supports were even glued in\>>> I guess it isn't a problem when the roots are intact[X(]
Ohh I guess glue makes things heavy,,,, green side up\? when laying the sod\??

MIXMASTER

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I have them in the elevators on the X100,my .60 UCD is all 635's,.46 UCD is all 635,I had them in the elevators on EF Yak 68",I use MG for ailerons & rudder because of the size and vibration to ailerons. In all, I used about 2 dozen HS635 and had one failure,not gears stripping or carbonite failure,it must have been the "pot" that failed,it would not hold at center,luck had it I got the plane back. I have always used them with 6v packs(89 oz torque). They seem OK to me,the best thing is how they hold up to use,must have had 200 flights on 'em and no gear slop at all. Its possible there was some bad ones out there,that Karbonite does flake off some,leaving a little black dust under the control arms,never been a problem though. I could imagine a batch of them being made with wrong amounts of resins&Karbonite that would make them brittle or weak. I would never put them in a giant scale,if you can afford a giant,get MG or better yet,Titanium Gears like I have in my Giles,HS5955TG-333oz @ 4.8V,400oz. @ 6v,over kill but I feel secure!

kochj

I have the same ones in my cap580. Great servos that will last a long time.... Less stress on the servos mean they will last longer and less of a chance that they will have a problem...[:-]

NCIS

Thanks guy's, that makes me feel better about using them. I have a TOC 30% Yak 54 that I'm going to put all metal gears in but I figured this 100 being less than 12 lbs. the 635's should be fine. I guess I'll find out. I am new at 3D so there probably won't be much stress on them, just on me.

Thanks again,

Gibbs

nuvaring

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I'm looking at getting the plane with a YS1.10. Any flight reports on this combo? I'd like to know if there is any shortage in power at any point.

thanks in advanced.

nitro wing

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I would say the YS 110 with good fuel and the right prop is probabbly one of the best power packages to put in here.I dont think you will be disapointed.If it's a new engine dont be alarmed if it's not a rocket.Once broke in and properly tuned,it will be plenty of punch.
I dont know what elevation you are at,but even higher it should be enough.

hardrock

Ok - I bought the plane from LHS and a Saito 100 from a friend (NIB) I see here that the 100 won't be enough power. Problem is now I have no $$$ left and need to get another engine. Does anyone fly this with an Evolution 100 2c??? I would like to get an OS120 but it's all about the $$$. I'm not a total 3D newbie, but I need emergency punch-out for when I get over-confident. Any comments? (About the motor only - please! )

LANNYBOB

i would go ahead and put the 100 on it. it'll do it.