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Old 11-16-2007, 08:52 AM
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ORIGINAL: dougtx

I have a question in regards to which engine to use on the ST50. Out of the Saito 82, Saito 91, and Saito 100, it appears that more comments are made towards using the 91 as opposed to the 82, however, according to Horizon Hobby, the 91 weighs in at 19.6, while the 100 weighs in at 19.5, so why wouldn't you want to use the 100 if it has basically the same weight as the 91 which seems to provide good results on this airplane?

Go with the 100! No reason not to go with a bigger motor at the same weight. I've got a YS .91 in mine and the power to weight is... satisfying.
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Old 11-16-2007, 08:48 PM
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I have a question in regards to which engine to use on the ST50. Out of the Saito 82, Saito 91, and Saito 100, it appears that more comments are made towards using the 91 as opposed to the 82, however, according to Horizon Hobby, the 91 weighs in at 19.6, while the 100 weighs in at 19.5, so why wouldn't you want to use the 100 if it has basically the same weight as the 91 which seems to provide good results on this airplane?

Go with the 100! No reason not to go with a bigger motor at the same weight. I've got a YS .91 in mine and the power to weight is... satisfying.

I agree 100% with Rodan. I fly mine with the Magnum 91, heavier than these and still had to add 2oz to the nose. The ST50 is worth it too.
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Old 11-16-2007, 11:37 PM
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What kind of fuel consumption should I expect from the Saito 100, and what size prop do you guys think would be best suited for the ST50 / Saito 100 combination.
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Old 11-17-2007, 08:05 AM
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Dougtx, are you flying on a paved runway or grass?
I fly on paved runway so I use 16x6 APC on my YS-91. Tried 17x4W. Great on the air but can't keep the plane stopped on the ground. The 16x4W overrevs the engine a lot. I saw 10500's.
I have heard other Saito 100 owners flying with 15x6's.

Good luck and keep us posted!
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Old 11-17-2007, 09:58 AM
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glad I saw this thread..a few years back I had the funtana 40 and used a 70 4stroke flew ok but needed more power.I want the ST50 but lacking a satio 82 I figured I could install a OS 91FS just laying around and from the threads I read it seems a 91 resolves tail heavy issues and the extra power is very good. what servos are you guys using .?
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Old 11-17-2007, 07:39 PM
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rmazuera,

Our field is very short, manicured grass.
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Old 11-17-2007, 08:00 PM
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What kind of fuel consumption should I expect from the Saito 100, and what size prop do you guys think would be best suited for the ST50 / Saito 100 combination.
I'd try a 15 x 6 first. If you aren't happy with that one, you could try a 16 x 4W.

I fly my ST50 with a Saito 82 and 15 x 4 Pro Zinger or a 15 X 4W APC. I have also used 14 x 6 and 13 x 8, but I like the larger diameter props for this plane.
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:23 PM
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glad I saw this thread..a few years back I had the funtana 40 and used a 70 4stroke flew ok but needed more power.I want the ST50 but lacking a satio 82 I figured I could install a OS 91FS just laying around and from the threads I read it seems a 91 resolves tail heavy issues and the extra power is very good. what servos are you guys using .?
I use Hitec HS-325 on all surfaces except for the rudder where I use HS-475 (but the 325 would have been enough for the rudder). Also, I use 6.0V battery pack; if you use 4.8V, you might want to consider HS-475 on all surfaces.

Jean-Yves
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:59 PM
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Hello all. Was wondering if anyone in here has flown both the Showtime .50 and the Venus .40. I would like a comparison of the two with pluses and minuses. My interest is more in pattern flying but this model looks versatile. This thread makes the plane look good and is pretty helpful. Thanks all!
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Old 11-19-2007, 01:46 PM
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I have not flown the Venus, but the Showtime is definitely more pattern than 3D. It tracks like an arrow, and is very stable.
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Old 12-14-2007, 10:08 PM
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I will be trying a 15x7 3-blade Master Airscrew prop tomorrow. I'm using a YS-91AC. Has anybody tried this? I'm tired of replacing 16x6's due to damages to prop.

Can't let a nice 83ºF day go by without some fun. Sorry for everybody up north. Nasty weather.
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Old 12-14-2007, 11:14 PM
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Hey Ernie!!! How's it going buddy??? I bought my son one of these last year and it flew really well. He's sinced switched to the 50 and 100 Funtana X though and likes them even more. Couldn't tell ya about the Showtime as I never fly anyone else's planes, even if I pay for them. Hope you like it buddy!!! Get across that bridge this spring and fly with me!!! I got some new 30%s you can try out!!! BTW You missed our airshow this year. Here's the video I shot of Kyle tearing up the sky, as usual!!!

http://media.putfile.com/Kyle-Whoyshnis
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Old 01-04-2008, 10:53 PM
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Took mine out of the box to begin a proper examination of the kit today. Not very happy with the finish on this kit. The covering is pretty rough and the decking fit and finish is not up to standard, so is the grey paintwork on it. There is a number on the inside of the fuse "18" is that an inspector's number?
The SFG plugs are not consistent with the top of the wing. I will have to remove the strip of covering to fill and then sand them to make them level with the wing surface. There is also some balsa visible around the SFG openings on the wing as the edges are not properly covered.

I can understand now why the Saito .82 is the biggest engine recommended for the frame and I will comply. The idea of building for both electric or glow has produced something less than the solid airplane I like. These light "cross breeds" will not really stand up as well to glow power vibration and loads. I am almost finshed building a Sig Sundancer .50 and to compare the two airplanes it's like chalk and cheese. Sig makes a solid airplane, this is my second ARF from them and no complaints about the build here. I guess for electric power the Showtime would be great. A buddy at the field just maidened an Inspire 60 and it's built the same way, pretty thin build for a .60 size glow airplane. Flitons are not the cheapest planes either. He has landing gear problems already with an OS91... go figure. I intend to beef up the gear support area before this Showtime even sees the field and am definitely not going this way again. Glow is glow and electric is electric. The funny thing is I do not dislike the airplane, it's just not what I expected. I am going to have to look at it again for strengthening it a little here and there, even if it's only with medium CA.
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Old 01-05-2008, 09:26 AM
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Mine has about 2 gallons through it with a YS .91 and no problems at all...

Yes, it is built light, and I did some strengthening in the landing gear mount, firewall, and a couple other spots, but I would have done the same with any ARF.

The covering on mine was pretty wrinkled out of the box, but tightened up nicely.

This plane is a great flyer, but IMHO an .82 Saito would not be all that exciting on this plane, which will come in ~ 7lbs. Geez, I was thinking about a Saito .82 for my 4lb Mojo!

It's not perfect, but for the price, I think this is a pretty nice plane, and it's a lot of fun to fly!
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Old 01-05-2008, 06:24 PM
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Thanks RodanAZ, very encouraging. I cleaned and sanded the rough spots on the decking for repainting. This is the first plane I have ever bought that's built so light and designed for both electric & glow. For some of us change is hard to handle

If the .82 bores me it should not be too much trouble to up it I suppose ... I would upgrade the engine mount anyway if I was putting a 1.00.

I bought a Venus .40 and the build is very different, a buddy asked me and I sold it to him before I built it and got this as a replacement. Two verrry different airplanes. The plan is to fly more pattern than 3D. I'll let you know how the covering smoothens out.

I agree the ST is a nice looking airplane....... and fun is imperative!
Fly a lot! [8D]
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Old 01-05-2008, 07:52 PM
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If pattern is your goal, you'll like the Showtime. It's no 3D plane, but it tracks like an arrow.
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Old 02-01-2008, 05:53 PM
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Hello I’m thinking about picking up a Showtime 50 and have 4 DS821 and want to put those in this plane. What do you think? Also I have a DX7 and will an AR6200 (the full range six channel receiver) fly this plane or do I need the AR7000 (seven channel full range receiver). Lastly will a Saito 72 work or an 82 be better as I’m trying to save a little.

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Old 02-01-2008, 06:12 PM
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seemefly 1

i have a dx7 and i love it the 6200 receiver will work but from what i can tell this plane needs 6 servo's and that's ok but you have to slave the elevator to the gear side of the receiver and it will work but the gear switch also still controls the servo to. i have called horizon to see if this can be programmed out but it doesn't seem to be able. so it will work but be carefull not to hit the gear switch in flight or just get the ar7000. and if you are flying 3d get the biggest 4 stroke you can afford the 82 or the 91 which seems to be the most popular. try used in the ads in this web site.
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Old 02-01-2008, 06:45 PM
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I have a showtime 50 I would like sell..
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Old 02-01-2008, 07:23 PM
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what about the servos
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Old 02-01-2008, 08:58 PM
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seemefly 1

im not sure i your question is for the showtime for sale or if the 821 servos will work in that plane. if it is the servos should work just fine i used them in a funtana 50 and they were great and i'm going to use them in my showtime 50 when it shows up on my door step.
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no its about the DS821 in this plane
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Old 02-05-2008, 12:11 AM
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Hi!
I have two engines available for the showtime 50 : OS 70 SurpassII and Evolution 52NX. What is the best?
Any help please!
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Old 02-05-2008, 09:04 AM
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Both would probably fly it, but you're not going to have a lot of performance. Remember this is a 6-7lb airplane, and a 50 isn't going to haul it around with any authority. I wouldn't go smaller than a .75 two stroke or .90 four stroke if you want any performance out of it. Mine came in a 7lbs with a YS .91, and the performance is excellent.
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i have the showtime 90 and the stock engine mount is just fine i have a os 91 four stroke and it fits nicely and flys good
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