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Old 08-02-2009, 09:48 PM
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Hey everybody... I need some help decidign on what plane to buy for my evo 1.00nx 2 stroke engine....

I am thinking about the aeroworks edge540t 46/61 but might be too heavy for this plane... anyone have
this combo ?? what do you guys think is my best option on airframe to practice 3d with this engine...
Without having to get a profile plane..

Well any suggestion is apreciated... I am in Puerto Vallarta Mexico so I fly at sea level.. how heavy an airframe
could I go to 3d... thanks... all...
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Old 08-06-2009, 10:27 AM
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Old 08-06-2009, 12:25 PM
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Ok thanks for the suggestion... all do I was looking for something that is not a profile plane..

Any suggestions... anybody have a plane with this engine doing 3d??

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had that engine on a .60 size u-can-do not the best 3d machine but not bad,had plenty of power
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ok thanks ... what do you think about the funtana 100 or the edge 540 from aeroworks??
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I had that engine in the original Funtana 90 and I thought it was just an OK combination. It flew well but I would not consider it having unlimited 3D performance.
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o ok... hey do you remember what the weight was of that plane ?? the funtana 90??

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I need some help decidign on what plane to buy for my evo 1.00nx 2 stroke engine.... what do you guys think is my best option on airframe to practice 3d with this engine...
I've been flying 3D with an Evo 100 for several years. It's a great running engine with excellent power and throttling. The only catch is that the Evo 100 needs a ST 90 carb and an OS F plug to run good enough for 3D flying. With the ST 90 carb and the OS F plug I've been extremely pleased with the Evo 100 in my Katana 70.

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Oh oh........you just severely limited your choices to nearly zero options.

I was going to suggest a Mojo or MoAss 60 as the first choice. The Katana 70 also flys very well, but isn't really rugged enough to withstand learning 3D.

The Funtana 90 really needs a more powerful engine than the Evo 100 for 3D flying, especially if you're just beginning to learn 3D.


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My Kat 70/Evo 100 weighs 6.5 pounds. I'd consider about 8 pounds to be the maximum for acceptable 3D performance.

Unless you open your mind to a profile, the problem you're going to have is finding a full fuselage plane that is light enough for an Evo 100.........AND has enough wing area to make a good 3D trainer.
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Yea I hear you... what do you think about the funtana 100 that plane weights 8.5lbs or so...
I am at sea level so maybe?? If not like you say a profile is the only other option...

Or maybe the Aeroworks edge540T weights 7lbs...

Well thanks..
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The Katana 70 has 930 sq. in. of wing area and weighs 6.5 pounds, which is 143 sq.in. per pound. An Evo 100 yanks it around just fine, and the wing loading is light enough for good 3D performance.

The Aeroworks Edge 540T claims a 6.5 pound weight, but only has 690 sq. in. of wing area. The wing loading is 106 sq. in. per pound. The Evo 100 won't have any problem with the 6.5 pound weight, but the high wing loading won't fly 3D as well as the Katana 70.

The Funtana 100 has 1108 sq. in. of wing area with a claimed weight of 8.5 pounds. The wing loading of 130 sq. in per pound is acceptable, but the weight is simply too heavy for an Evo 100. The last Funtana 100 I test flew had an OS 120AX and it didn't have the power to weight performance of the Katana 70 with an Evo 100. I also suspect it weighed more than 8.5 pounds.

The Mojo/MoAss 60 has 1000 sq. in. and will weigh no more than 6 pounds with an Evo 100. The wing loading at 6 pounds is only 166 sq. in per pound......which is better than the Katana 70......and it weighs less to boot. At 5.5 pounds the wing loading becomes 182 sq. in. per pound, which is even better........especially for learning 3D.

And now you know why profiles consistantly outperform "fatties" when it comes to 3D flying.

Once you have experienced the performance of a 3D profile, flat planes start looking beautiful.
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Hey.. that is great info.. thanks... yea I just might do that... I`ll look at the fusion .90 or the katana .70
I believe they are new versions where you can take the wings apart right??

Well thanks for all the info...


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Now you're looking at some good 3D planes for an Evo 100.

Don't forget there is an option for removable wings with the Mojo/MoAss 60 kits if that's absolutely required.
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Ok sounds good.. thanks...

I will let you know wich one I buy.

thanks...

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Here's a short video of the Evo 100 in a Katana 70. Not much, but it proves the Evo 100 can pull a Kat 70 around.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RYpiBYQgyw
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Yea I saw the video looks like good power for 3d lots extra power for pulling out of hovers..........
I might get the katana.. thanks..
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Take a look at the Hanger 9 "Frenzy 100"
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Yea the frenzy or the funtana 100 ... I just traded a plane for the funtanax 100 with an os120ax...
that should be very good.. for hovering practice.. I still have the evo100 engine without a plane..
jeje you know how it is .. you have a spare engine and you cant wait to get an airframe for it..
jeje... but yea a profile or the frenzy.. still havent decided..

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i would go straight for a profile. Easy to fix, really tough, flies superb, they can take so much beating that a full fuse plane cant touch.
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it depends of how much do you want to spend....i friend of mine has a 120 on the edge 540 46-60 and it makes the 3d very good, if you want something for the 100 maybe the 60-90 extra or yak from aeroworks.
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Yea there is that option too the aeroworks yak and extra they are supposed to weight about 8lbs...
so should be enough power with the evo100...

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Is the Katana 70 still available somewhere????
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Yea you can even get a Katana 70 on ebay... I just saw one on sale there...
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ORIGINAL: jorgecap1

Ok thanks for the suggestion... all do I was looking for something that is not a profile plane..

Any suggestions... anybody have a plane with this engine doing 3d??

thanks
Well, You asked for the best plane for 3D, that will be a Primo 60, Slide 58, or MoAss 60.

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Few more of my MoAss 65
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