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Old 06-30-2006, 09:04 AM
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Default RE: Patriot 40 tail wiggle at speed

ORIGINAL: badz

Do you have retracts installed?
Yep! I got this plane third-hand from my buddy, and it has Hobbico
retracts. I need to replace the nose gear, as it's pretty hammered.
The original owner had a tuned pipe and a lighter motor, but my buddy
ran a .52 in the nose, and the CG was about 2 inches in front of the
factory recommendation.

It flew, but the rolls weren't axial, and he was always heavy on the
nose on landing...

Also I'd run a 11x7 on the .46AX i've gotten awesome speed out of
it with a tuned pipe on....
Really? 11x7? Man, that's not much ground clearance. I tried a 11x6,
and was disappointed with the RPMS I could squeak out of it. Then
again, I'm now running a 10x7, and am satisfied with the performance, so
if a tuned pipe gave me more thrust, that would be cool.

9x7 is just too small out here you'll have takeoff issue's and
need to land at SLC International she'll come in so hot.
Yeah, I got a lot of comments on it when running a 9x7. Things to the
effect of "If that takeoff roll was any longer, you'd need a full-scale
runway", or "Are you holding full down elevator on that thing?". A
combination of flaperons and going to a 10x7 from the 9x7 made it come
down into satisfactory 300-foot rollouts.

Rudder flutter is probably just control rod flex...
Yeah, the "final solution" on this was to reduce the throw on my rudder.
It had GOBS, way more than spec. Cutting the throw pretty much in half
gives me more than enough authority for what I want to do with it, and
the tail wiggle is totally gone now.

Where on the Salt Flats do ya go fly? I come out that way few
times a month and fly my f-16...
Out at "Grantsville #2" (also called Mystway), out past the Chemical
Lime plant. I also fly from the old, closed Tooele City Municipal
Airport. 5000' runway, chopped up into little 900' sections by former
mayor Charlie Roberts. Perfect for models, except that pilots from
Bolinder Field in Erda frequently buzz the runway.

Send me a PM! Let's go fly our barn-burners on the same day sometime.
I usually do Saturday or Sunday mornings, along with a weekday or two.
I work nights, so I can do that Wednesday mornings, the field's
generally unoccupied (don't know why, it just is), so I often do maidens
and heavy pattern practice on that day so I can burn tank after tank of
fuel.

btw join [link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_530698/tm.htm]revvers[/link] Maybe we can get enough in Utah and hit the lake and have some speed fun
That would rock! The 200MPH speed limit, as you probably know, only
applies to turbines...

Look for me some time. I'm the guy that drives the little Honda Insight hybrid, and manages to pack 4-5 planes in it... Or send me a PM, and let's arrange a time to practice high-speed tennis matches (Split-S, flyby, vertical pullout, Cuban Eight, flyby, vertical pullout...)

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Matt B.
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