Wow! what a crash story Bill...I've had a few of those myself...lol ...left me with just a hand full of eletronic speggitti!!! LOL. Hey while we're on the subject of twin engines here bill can I ask you a question? Whats the best kit or arf twin engine for someone to start off with?? I dont have the funds for an expensive project right now so I'd be looking for the cheapest twin "trainer"...lol (if there could be such a thing).. prob..a .25 size...lol..any ideas???? BTW....I just saw that you have been made a moderator in the twin engine dept. .....Congratulations!!