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Building and Metal-Morphing a Gamma - 1/22/2005 5:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		We had such a great response on the P-38 we plated in our seamless micro aluminum that I have decided to build and aluminum plate a Northrop Gamma, the reason I picked the Gamma is because of its beautiful lines and the fact that it was used mostly as a racer. Our 38 pictured below is my favorite warbird but I need a plane that I can not only fly but I also wanted a plane that was not used in war time (for political reasons at some shows we attend). The Gamma was used in China as a military aircraft but as far as I know in the State it was used as a racer. So I'm going to build this from scratch and when finished it will be plated in our seamless micro aluminum plating. My goal is to keep the weight under 15 pound.



Here is the Yellow P-38 we are just about finished with.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/Metal%2DMorphing_a_Yellow_P%2D38/m_1870990/tm.htm

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RE: Building and Metal-Morphing a Gamma - 1/22/2005 5:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here are my materials and plans, I think the plan are too small

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RE: Building and Metal-Morphing a Gamma - 1/22/2005 5:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Gave the plans to our office girls and they used our large format copier to enlarge the plans, now that better


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RE: Building and Metal-Morphing a Gamma - 1/22/2005 5:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		I worked a few hours yesterday and got the formers cut and starting to get things fitted. Unfortunately I have to go out of town for a week so I will post more after I get back.

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RE: Building and Metal-Morphing a Gamma - 2/3/2005 2:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		oh man..your at it again...great work..by the way the p-38 is a work of art hope to so you at the wram show in ny..

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RE: Building and Metal-Morphing a Gamma - 2/3/2005 2:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		The Gammawill be gorgeous in that all metal finish. Keep us posted on your progress.

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RE: Building and Metal-Morphing a Gamma - 2/3/2005 4:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		After a day like I had today, reading your encouraging post is a really pleasure. I'm not sure if anyone wants to see my stupid mistake so I'll just fill you in. I have the wings foamed and I started to cut them to shape when I notice that I had built two left wings so I had to disassemble one of the wings, clean off all the adhesives and tomorrow I will build the right wing---again--. Well I like to think there is a lesson here somewhere and I guess it could be check your plans before gluing everything together. Oh well the only thing I lost was about 4 dollars in foam and about 1 hour in time. I just hope this is my only glitch on this project.


I'll post some pictures soon
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RE: Building and Metal-Morphing a Gamma - 2/3/2005 11:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sometime in our modeling career, we all do something like that. I've learned to just mumble a few explitives and go on, just like you.

Keep going. I'd like to follow your progress. The Gamma is one of my favorites.

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RE: Building and Metal-Morphing a Gamma - 2/3/2005 9:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Tom - My choice words after my mistake might of been just a little louder than a mumble but that was yesterday and today was a much better day. I got to the shop early and build the right wing, then I started cutting and shaping the wing center-section, this will be attached to the fuselage. Here are a few pictures.

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RE: Building and Metal-Morphing a Gamma - 2/3/2005 11:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		OK, Let me see if I understand. Traditional outer wing panels and a foam center section. Bear with me. I'm slow !!!

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RE: Building and Metal-Morphing a Gamma - 2/3/2005 11:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		I forgot to ask. What's the wingspan and fuselage length?

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RE: Building and Metal-Morphing a Gamma - 2/4/2005 12:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		Tom the Gamma is 1/6 scale with a 96 inch wing span, I dont have the fuselage measurement with me but will post it with the next batch of pictures. I'm making the entire plane out of foam and using the wood formers as guides, then I will attach the fuselage to the center-section, next the whole thing will be glassed with fiberglass cloth and epoxy. After the glass is set I will have the guys in the paint area remove all of the foam using a petroleum based liquid. When the shell is sent back to me I will prepare it for our metal process. My goal is to keep the completed weight under 15 pounds. Hope this helps.

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Tom the second picture in my last picture post shows the outerwings with the foam glued to the formers, I have not shaped them yet but thats what the center-section looked like yesterday.

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RE: Building and Metal-Morphing a Gamma - 2/4/2005 1:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks, I'm getting it, now.

Your Gamma will be about the same size as the one produced by Cordey's Flying Circus, a number of years ago.

Keep going. This is good stuff !!!

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RE: Building and Metal-Morphing a Gamma - 2/5/2005 2:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		I got a chance to work on the fuselage this afternoon, its just roughed out at this point but its starting to look like a plane, I'm using plans that I purchased from Cleveland models and supply, I talk to Tom and he was a pleasure to do business with.

This is there web site
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RE: Building and Metal-Morphing a Gamma - 2/8/2005 1:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks Tom,
Here are some current pictures, I have the fuselage and wings roughed out and I still have to do some final fitting before I start glassing. The wing center-section will be fitted with aluminum channel that will allow the wings to slide into them with a male end. I have set the dihedral and sweep on the wings, then all the foam will be sanded with 100 grit before the glassing process is started.

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RE: Building and Metal-Morphing a Gamma - 2/8/2005 1:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		Oh I forgot this picture, after I was finished sizing up the plane, I took the wings back to the bench and glued on a strip of foam to the leading edge, tomorrow I will sand it to shape.

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RE: Building and Metal-Morphing a Gamma - 2/8/2005 1:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		You're making good progress.

Is that a Cobra in the background?

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RE: Building and Metal-Morphing a Gamma - 2/8/2005 2:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		Tom the cobra you see is one of 5 in the shop at this time. The Shelby cobra replica boom has been very good to us, we do the custom paint work and our plating process to them, the funny thing is that with all the great cars in the shop most customers always gravitate to my bench to see what I'm up to .

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RE: Building and Metal-Morphing a Gamma - 2/8/2005 2:14 AM   
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RE: Building and Metal-Morphing a Gamma - 2/8/2005 10:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		I didn't get much done today, just when things are getting interesting on this project I have to put in on hold for a few days, the cobras are ready for metal plating so I have to get that done first, but I think I will put a weekend in to get it ready for glassing. Heres what I did today.

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RE: Building and Metal-Morphing a Gamma - 2/9/2005 2:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		Looks like a Gamma to me !!! Just the cowl and the spats left?

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RE: Building and Metal-Morphing a Gamma - 2/12/2005 7:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Tom, looks like just you and me are interested in the Gamma

Well I got a chance to get the wood parts epoxied to the foam, I also added a tapered carbon fiber wing spar, I dont think I will be pulling high Gs with this plane but I figure just in case I have the Rudder mounted and tomorrow I plan on getting the elevator glued on, its been fitted but I have to wait for the rudder epoxy to set first.

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RE: Building and Metal-Morphing a Gamma - 2/13/2005 8:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ron, I'm not surprised that it's just us. I've seen very few posts here about the Gamma. I'm hooke don Warbirds and Golden Age aircraft, so you can see where my interest comes from. I'm finishing up a WACO YMF and a Cub. I'm also working on a Stuka.

Keep on plugging away and I'll keep watching.

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RE: Building and Metal-Morphing a Gamma - 2/13/2005 3:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm following this thread with great interest. I too love the Golden Age stuff. I can't wait to see the Gamma "Morphed".

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