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Old 06-29-2004, 01:00 AM
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Default Flyin King AP project getting close!

My Flyin' King AP set up is getting close now. I have the TX mounted into a wing bay (see picture) so that the antenna pokes out the bottom of the wing. The camera will be mounted to a pan/tilt set up in a wing bay on the opposite side of the TX. All cables are running through wing tubes to the middle of the wing. The camera will be operated by a helper using another radio TX (diff channel obviously). I will have video and sound capabilities. I am just waiting for my ordered FMA Co-Pilot to arrive and then I should be up and running. I have also included a picture of the pan/tilt set up.
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Old 06-29-2004, 04:42 AM
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Default RE: Flyin King AP project getting close!

nice looking setup, what plane is that and what is the power plant. Would love to see a wider shot of the plane, can't wait to see some vids.

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Old 06-29-2004, 08:45 AM
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Here is the completed aircraft. The engine is an OS 91 FX (2 stroke). With full flaps the plane flys at a crawl! The ideo of the Co-Pilot is to have as stable a platform as I can.
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Old 06-30-2004, 05:54 PM
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Looks great. I cant wait to see some vids
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Old 06-30-2004, 06:03 PM
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Looking very good Mike!
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Old 07-01-2004, 09:26 PM
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Cant wait to see the results!
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My Flyin' King AP set up is getting close now. I have the TX mounted into a wing bay (see picture) so that the antenna pokes out the bottom of the wing. The camera will be mounted to a pan/tilt set up in a wing bay on the opposite side of the TX. All cables are running through wing tubes to the middle of the wing. The camera will be operated by a helper using another radio TX (diff channel obviously). I will have video and sound capabilities. I am just waiting for my ordered FMA Co-Pilot to arrive and then I should be up and running. I have also included a picture of the pan/tilt set up.
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Old 07-02-2004, 03:29 PM
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Yea, looks good.. I really like the PT.
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Old 07-02-2004, 04:09 PM
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Default RE: Flyin King AP project getting close!

Thanks for the encouragement [8D] I am really excited to get the whole thing up and running. The Co Pilot is now here and will be installed this weekend.

I would like to mention the fantastic customer service I received from Micro Camera's. This morning I received a phone call from Mark who had read this thread and offered some advice in the set up process.....unbeleivable!!

I purchased a used Canon ZR60 mini dv camcorder to record the flight on and then will dump it into my PC via a Firewire card. As soon as I get this all up and running I will be sure to post the results. Just working on putting a 10 cell 1.2V 2000mAh battery pack to power the camera/TX with.
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big wheels, like a 4wd
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Old 07-05-2004, 10:32 PM
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Very nice! Looks like a 1 watt BlackwidowAV transmitter there!
You wont go wrong with that one! (I use it.)
Ive wanted to see one of these "cargo planes"
used for AP!!
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Old 07-05-2004, 10:37 PM
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A tip on mounting the Copilot:
Build a "mounting block" the same size as the co-pilot sensor (about 1" tall)
and attach it to the underside of the fuse (if this is where youre going to mount it)
That way the fuse wont block the upper 30% of the sensor's view of the horizon
and it will work MUCH better!
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KE4UVQ....thanks for the heads up.

Here is some pictures of the camera pan/tilt set up, just installing the hardware right now.

IA Flyer, if you are reading this I have a question. I know that you are hard mounting your camera and getting awesome results. Do you hard mount the servo the camera is on or are you still using the small rubber/brass inserts on the servo?
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I’m not sure with your setup.
You may be best off mounting the servo hard to a base and making a very soft plate mount where the entire assembly meets the wing and let the weight of the camera and mount work for your advantage.
When I was using a tilt pan mount I mounted the servos hard with no grommets.
I tried several soft and hard mounting styles where the mount met the airframe. There was always some slack in the servos that caused image vibration. I could tune it out at some RPM’s but not the full throttle range.
Keep in mind I was using a CMOS camera at the time and they show vibration far worst than CCD cameras. I plan on trying the mount with a CCD sometime in the future.
One thing I found that helped with my lightweight tilt setups was to load the servo with a spring or rubber band. It pulled the slack out of the servo gears / bearings and reduced vibration quit a bit.
With a heavy camera like yours it would take a very heavy spring and would probably stall the servo. That’s why I was talking about converting the tilt-pan servos to jackscrews and mounting the camera in the center of a ball bearing gimble on it’s CG in one of our old PM’s. Then you could pre-load the bearings and camera with out stalling the servos.
Try some things on the ground with the engine running, you don’t need to fly to see when it’s working.
Have you tried it yet? I’m real curious on seeing the results, that camera and mount look nice!

I doubt I’ll spend much more time working on vibration dampening for movable mounts. I’m having too much fun flying with multiple hard-mounted cameras.
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Old 07-31-2004, 12:10 AM
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If all goes well the test flight will be this weekend.

All of the on board gear is now installed. I changed the pan tilt set up as it was really flimsy when in use and the camera would bounce around a lot. Talk about wires...I've got wires everwhere! I have the camera system set up with it's radio system so a helper will use another TX to operate the pan/tilt. The wireless 600MW 12v system is powered by a 10 cell AA 1500 mAh nicad pack which feeds power to the wireless camera and the TX. The 480 line Camera is controlled by my Airtronics Vanguard radio with it's own 4.8v battery pack. The wireless camera set up has an on/off switch located on the side of the plane for now via a toggle switch. I have the FMA Co-Pilot also installed but need to perform the calibration procedure etc. Next is to balance the Flyin' King forward/aft and side to side and charge all 5 battery packs. Perform some good range checks with all the electronics working. Gas up and give her heck!

The video feed will be recorded onto my Canon ZR60 mini DV camcorder. I intend to fly the first flight with all the video gear on board so good or bad we should get some footage! I have flown the FK a few times and feel very confident with it's flying abilities. The designer of the kit (Bruce Tharpe) figured the FK will easily lift a 10lb payload, although I am way under that. Flaps will be interesting to try as the Co-Pilot will adjust for the trim changes that would be needed for the change in pitch when the flaps are deployed.

Phew....this has been a long process and finally I see light at the end of the tunnel. So wish me luck and for good weather and that all will work as it is supposed to. I will be sure to post the flight.

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Wishin you good weather and fair winds and LETS SEE THAT VIDEO!
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