Go Back  RCU Forums > RC Airplanes > Aerodynamics
Reload this Page >

Involuntary Roll during loop

Community
Search
Notices
Aerodynamics Discuss the physics of flight revolving around the aerodynamics and design of aircraft.

Involuntary Roll during loop

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-22-2004, 11:32 AM
  #1  
cosmospho
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Helsinki, FINLAND
Posts: 128
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Involuntary Roll during loop

I have a new Extra 1.8m Wing with a .90 Super Tigre which I flew (maiden) last weekend that does a complete roll when the top part of the loop is reached (plane upside down at its lowest speed). The plane seems to stall ? and I have absolutely no control of it; but after the roll and when it gains a little speed its back in control again. What can it be ?? CG ?? Wing Balance ?? I am thinking of balancing the wing and pushing the CG a bit forward. I maybe thought it could be overcontrol of the elevators ?? Well lots of questions but not many answers this side. Any ideas on what can be done from someone who has gone through this before ?


Regards
Old 06-22-2004, 03:55 PM
  #2  
Flypaper 2
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Kingston, ON, CANADA
Posts: 4,925
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default RE: Involuntary Roll during loop

Sounds like it's tipstalling from to much el. throw. Try doing a bigger loop without using full elevator. That will tell you if it's to much throw. Ideal is to back off the throw till it doesn't snap out.
Old 06-22-2004, 04:58 PM
  #3  
rmh
Senior Member
 
rmh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: , UT
Posts: 12,630
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default RE: Involuntary Roll during loop

snap roll -anyway you slice it -
Unfortunately, it is far too common on the BARFS of aerobatic models .
Sometimes, the model is underpowered and overweight- done to the manufacturer's recommended setup.
When the very first ARFS hit the US, this was the rule -not the exception.
Old 06-22-2004, 07:47 PM
  #4  
CharlieK
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Laramie, WY
Posts: 73
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Involuntary Roll during loop

If you stall the aircraft inverted at the top of a loop it will snap roll upright. This is true for both full scale and models. Really leaves you wondering what the heck happened when you are sitting in the airplane. Make the loop smaller so you keep up the speed on the top side. Also back off the nose up pressure on the stick in the upper quarter of the loop then incrase it on the down side.

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.