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i just started building my new bipe and i was wandering what kind of performance should i expect from this bipe with the DLE35 ?
It seems like right from the unboxing this airplane will be heavier than I expected.
also the quality is unreal as usual from aeroworks.
It seems like right from the unboxing this airplane will be heavier than I expected.
also the quality is unreal as usual from aeroworks.
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unfortunately I got to answer that question by my own by flying mine with a 35RA on a xoar 19,8 . Once again the weight advertised by AE is pure BS. That said the weight of your components is an issue if you wanna get some vertical performance.
i also added a smoker system wich I flew for one day because it was like flying a Cub so much the performance went down.
So the smoker system and the benett muffler went on permanent vacation.
honestly a 45cc is required to really have fun and keep some extra power to get out of trouble.
also its very sturdy! built like a Mack truck!
bottom line is : I love the flying part and hate the power to weight ratio
yep an advertised low weight is a seller.
i also added a smoker system wich I flew for one day because it was like flying a Cub so much the performance went down.
So the smoker system and the benett muffler went on permanent vacation.
honestly a 45cc is required to really have fun and keep some extra power to get out of trouble.
also its very sturdy! built like a Mack truck!
bottom line is : I love the flying part and hate the power to weight ratio
yep an advertised low weight is a seller.
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I thought about a dle 55ra power would not be an issue for sure. But if ever have a deadstick i will regret my choice. This airframe is on the heavy side. And that comes with a rather high wing loading and as a bonus all the disadvantage that comes along. Right now i'm wating on a bowman ring. Its seems like a low cost lightweight altenative to turn cat into a lion. Lolll
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Did a little research. I don't see a better alternitave for power right now.
DLE-35 33oz $349
DLE-55 45.4oz $369
DA-50 47.04 oz $549
Evo 40cc 51.2 oz $499
Zenoah38 49.02oz $319
All these weights are plus muffler but only the DLEs have a muffler included in the price.
I just cant see hanging another 12oz or so to the nose to get better verticle. I have seen Goldbergs fly way over weight and way over power. They were fine for IMAC type flying but don't dare dead stick one or try to harrier it. Guess it depends on the type of flying you do.
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DLE-35 33oz $349
DLE-55 45.4oz $369
DA-50 47.04 oz $549
Evo 40cc 51.2 oz $499
Zenoah38 49.02oz $319
All these weights are plus muffler but only the DLEs have a muffler included in the price.
I just cant see hanging another 12oz or so to the nose to get better verticle. I have seen Goldbergs fly way over weight and way over power. They were fine for IMAC type flying but don't dare dead stick one or try to harrier it. Guess it depends on the type of flying you do.
David
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Here's a 40cc twin and it has fanstatic reviews. It's sold by Valley View RC. THe muffler's are included in the price of $395.00. It comes in two configurations, straight plugs or angled plugs. Here's a link: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/gas-...ngines-11.html
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AUW for the 40cc is 42.5 ounces which includes the mufflers & ignition. It' s lighter than the DLE 55! the AUW for the DLE is 55.3 which included muffler and ignition
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I am surprised Scooter. Maybe you can help me with this question. On a 4-stroke glow engine a 1.20 twin is about the same power as a .90 single cylinder. Do 2 stroke gas engines have the same issues with power? Or will a 40cc twin be the same power as a 40cc single?
@ Frank. Would you buy this plane again? I am having a hard time resisting it even with the extra weight you talk about.
David
@ Frank. Would you buy this plane again? I am having a hard time resisting it even with the extra weight you talk about.
David
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Did a little research on the twin Valley View 40cc that Scooter mentioned.
Looks like it might be a viable option.
VVRC 40cc twin
45.2oz with mufflers and ign module
7-7/8" or 8-1/2" wide depending on spark plugs used
4.7 hp
$395.00
DLE35cc single
40.83oz with muggler and ign module
no clearance issues
4.1hp
$349.00
BTW the cowl on the 30cc Ultimate is 9-1/2" wide as listed on the AW site.
If the horse power numbers are close to accurate the extra 4.37oz would not be a big issue. The $50 price difference seams like a bargain for a twin.
Please tell me if I am missing something.
David
Looks like it might be a viable option.
VVRC 40cc twin
45.2oz with mufflers and ign module
7-7/8" or 8-1/2" wide depending on spark plugs used
4.7 hp
$395.00
DLE35cc single
40.83oz with muggler and ign module
no clearance issues
4.1hp
$349.00
BTW the cowl on the 30cc Ultimate is 9-1/2" wide as listed on the AW site.
If the horse power numbers are close to accurate the extra 4.37oz would not be a big issue. The $50 price difference seams like a bargain for a twin.
Please tell me if I am missing something.
David
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Update: i flew my bipe recently to discover that this engine (DLE35RA) needs to at least burn 2 gallon os before it wakes up.
I flew Sunday 6 flight all in all. For no particular reason or any adjustment done to it suddenly afte the third tank its pulls like it never did before. Unlimited vertical !!!!!!!
it sustain a hover at half throttle easily.
Me and my buddy were astounded at the fact that suddenly the DLE realised that is job is to pull this plane around. So its is very weird in a sense that now it throws this bipe around like nothing. It almost seems like the ignition mapping has changed??? ***? we were three of us looking at this when it happened.
and since then its doing very good.
I flew Sunday 6 flight all in all. For no particular reason or any adjustment done to it suddenly afte the third tank its pulls like it never did before. Unlimited vertical !!!!!!!
it sustain a hover at half throttle easily.
Me and my buddy were astounded at the fact that suddenly the DLE realised that is job is to pull this plane around. So its is very weird in a sense that now it throws this bipe around like nothing. It almost seems like the ignition mapping has changed??? ***? we were three of us looking at this when it happened.
and since then its doing very good.
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I dont know if you ever owned an ultimate bipe but its flying like it should be! Neverthess a bipe is a bipe. high drag and heavy with a crazy fast roll rate. It tracks like its on rail. Where you point it is were it goes. But keep the weight down as much as possible.
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David i cant tell about the Goldberg cause mine is being built as we speek. But for low speed ( high alpha) i will hold easily an upright harrier with almost no wing rock. I love this bipe