Flight (2012 film) - Can airliners fly inverted?
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RE: Flight (2012 film) - Can airliners fly inverted?
ORIGINAL: hugger-4641
Exactly right EddieC. I don't remember the flight number, but there was an Airbus a few years ago, I believe a 380, with a composite tail that came off the plane because the pilot was above ''manuevering'' speed and cycled the rudder back and forth in an attempt to get rid of vortex turbulence. I don't think the elevator surface was composite, but the rudder was. If the elevator surface is composite, I highly doubt it would withstand inverted flight. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm mistaken.
Exactly right EddieC. I don't remember the flight number, but there was an Airbus a few years ago, I believe a 380, with a composite tail that came off the plane because the pilot was above ''manuevering'' speed and cycled the rudder back and forth in an attempt to get rid of vortex turbulence. I don't think the elevator surface was composite, but the rudder was. If the elevator surface is composite, I highly doubt it would withstand inverted flight. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm mistaken.
references: Wikipedia - American airlines flight 587; Maneuvering Airspeed
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RE: Flight (2012 film) - Can airliners fly inverted?
ORIGINAL: RV7guy
I have a Van's RV7. It is aerobatic and rated at +6 -3. I have a G meter in the EFIS. I have logged +4 G's in turbulence. I would think that airliners would be rated for greater than +2 G's.
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I have a Van's RV7. It is aerobatic and rated at +6 -3. I have a G meter in the EFIS. I have logged +4 G's in turbulence. I would think that airliners would be rated for greater than +2 G's.
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RE: Flight (2012 film) - Can airliners fly inverted?
ORIGINAL: eddieC
Uh,... sorry, no. Load limits apply to fixed items of the aircraft, not just the wings and such. By 'taking the G's', do you mean a bit higher G to reach the load limit at gross? If so, then no.
Most airliners are stressed for +2.0, -0.0 G. The fixed items, like engines, batteries, etc., still feel their normal weight, so 2G is 2G. The airspeed may vary based on weight for certain maneuvers. Review maneuvering speed and limit load factors. Q: In turbulence, can you go faster, or slower, if the airplane is lightly loaded ?
Can you post proof on the C130 aerobatics?
Most airliners and cargo aircraft can take the G's if lightly loaded as the stress limits are for aircraft at or near gross load.
Most airliners are stressed for +2.0, -0.0 G. The fixed items, like engines, batteries, etc., still feel their normal weight, so 2G is 2G. The airspeed may vary based on weight for certain maneuvers. Review maneuvering speed and limit load factors. Q: In turbulence, can you go faster, or slower, if the airplane is lightly loaded ?
Can you post proof on the C130 aerobatics?
Every flight manual I have ever studied has always said to slow down in turbulence to the slowest practical airspeed. Although you can go faster in a lightly loaded plane, believe me, the jolts are going to feel worse. For the 737 and Md-83, turbulence penetration airspeed was about 280kias. Heavier aircraft (b-767,777, A-340,380) may require higher airspeeds.