Sport_Pilot

Transporting the aircraft across state lines is interstate. Flying from one airport and back to same is not. The sale to the dealer from the factory (other than Kansas) is interstate.The dealer selling to you in the samestate is not. However as I said the courts keep moving these boundarys (generally to allow the government to control more and more), and I cannot be sure that this is 100% true today.

phlpsfrnk

There's no such thing.

Regards
Frank

KidEpoxy

What an amazing coincidence-
Thats pretty much what the Sheriff and the Photographers said too,
when they, like you, tried to justify doing their non-hobby activities the same as you and your non-hobby activities..
But they, like you are what the FAA calls 'mistaken'.


Why do you think the FAA had to basicly repeat Policy07 using smaller words and talking slower?
Cause folks are still mistakenly claiming their non-hobby activities are hobby.



Its all about what is Sport & Rec, thats the term used by Policy11 for what is (3)Hobby.
Selling product is not sport & rec.
SalesDemoFlights cannot use FAA's sport & rec license, so we know how the FAA feels about the term "sport & rec" regarding demoflights

Silent-AV8R

KE, I am sorry that you are unable to discern the difference between the sUAS operations of the LA County Sheriff and the hobby company sponsored pilot or demo pilot. I am confident that the FAA can, and they are the only ones who count. Until I see clear information from the FAA that I am incorrect I see no reason to continue chasing our tails as you go round and round to amuse yourself.

Sport_Pilot

Their was a lawsuit about this, I think it may have been by the Fraternal Order of Police Chiefs, or something like that. Anybody hear of any progress on that?

Silent-AV8R

Here is the "model airplane" that the LA Sheriff got cross ways with the FAA over. It is also the kind of aircraft that the FAA is looking to regulate with their new sUAS rules.

http://lemonodor.com/archives/001405.html

Here are some others:

http://www.terradaily.com/news/uav-05zk.html

LA is not the only place the police have gotten sideways with the FAA:

http://www.homelandsecuritynewswire....tory-authority

I am pretty sure the FAA can see the difference between these operations and QuiQue Somenzini flying a noon time demo.

Sport_Pilot

Yes butas I recall, the lawsuit was claiming that the FAA had no jurisdiction because the law enforcement planes was not commerce. Therefore if notinterfering withnavigable space it is not in FAA's juridiction.

Silent-AV8R

I was not really responding to you so much as KE. Your point is a good one, and many have tried to maintain that the FAA does not have jurisdiction


This was from one of the links I posted:

http://www.homelandsecuritynewswire....tory-authority

The Toolman

If I remember right, the sheriff has more power than anybody in his county. I believe he can tell the fbi, cia, etc to "buzz off" quoting one poster here. But I just don't how far straight up his powers go in his county.

Silent-AV8R

I was not aware that the county sheriff was the single most powerful person in a given county with the power to supersede all federal, state, or local authority. Makes you wonder why they bother using licensed pilots in their helicopters and all that other silly stuff. Why not just tell the FAA to stuff it and buzz off?

The Toolman

Ya see the feds always use the highway funds an other things as blackmail over their head, so the sheriffs always cower down,Except Joe A.

By the way, I see how the greenies in kalifornia are using their wind turbine farms to kill on the average of 67 golden eagles every year. I bet they are really proud of themselves an their greenie stuff now. Scroll down a little from the top an watch one get killed while they are filming it. I hope them tree huggin greenie hippie B******s die a slow painful death an rot away where even the worms won't eat'em.

http://sadhillnews.com/2011/06/07/ca...ndly-windmills

Silent-AV8R

Totally off topic, but it's sad that you have bought into his public relations firm's hype. I have a very good friend who spent 25 years at the sheriff's office and he has a much different view of Joe. I kow, he made the inmates wear pink underwear and fed them bologna sandwiches. But little things are coming to light that show that not everything is as the PR firm wants you to believe.

Do a little Google of Dave Hendershott and Arpaio


You certainly are a bitter and unhappy man it seems.

The Toolman

Nope I just have no earthly use for the windmill/tree greenies. I spent a lot of years helping conservation here with our Great Bald Eagles we have around this lake. Then to see the golden eagles chewed up by windmills that the cry babies out there just had to have.

Bitter don't even begin to describe how I feel about most of the people out there.

littlecrankshaf

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Ronny,

Sounds like you really don't like self-righteous know-it-alls!

Sport_Pilot

IAs I recall there have been cases where the courts decided that states can add additional restrictions in non navigable areas.  Such as no fly areas.  But I think that is a different matter.  I was just wondering what the result  or status of the lawsuit is.

RCKen

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Ok guys, the thread is drifting off topic here. Let's concentrate on the subject of thread and not worry about Eagles and wind farms in California.

scale only 4 me

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The only relevance is the ongoing practice of not foreseeing the unintended consequences of ones actions,, Or knowing what will result and saying,, Tough Tootles, so sad,, sorry bout your luck.

Sometimes (I mean most of the time) our not so wise Reps never see past November [:@]