Regulation passed the House
02-04-2012, 05:42 AM
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Regulation passed the House
Today the U.S. House of Representatives passed the FAA Modernization and Reform Act of 2012, H.R. 658. In passing the Bill the House adopted a provision presented by the joint Conference Committee aimed at protecting model aviation from burdensome regulation.
This would never have been possible if it wasn’t for the efforts and support of Senator James Inhofe (R-Okla) in introducing an amendment protecting model aviation into the Senate version of the Bill. And, it would never have been possible without you, the AMA member, in your response to AMA’s call to action during last spring’s Congressional Awareness campaign.
Passage by the House is but the first step in the final process ofToday the U.S. House of Representatives passed the FAA Modernization and Reform Act of 2012, H.R. 658. In passing the Bill the House adopted a provision presented by the joint Conference Committee aimed at protecting model aviation from burdensome regulation.
This would never have been possible if it wasn’t for the efforts and support of Senator James Inhofe (R-Okla) in introducing an amendment protecting model aviation into the Senate version of the Bill. And, it would never have been possible without you, the AMA member, in your response to AMA’s call to action during last spring’s Congressional Awareness campaign.
Passage by the House is but the first step in the final process of bringing this bill to life. The Senate will take up the Bill on Monday, 2/6, with a final vote expected by the end of the day. Though this is not yet a done deal, there is every reason to believe the Senate will pass the Bill and send it to the President for signature.
bringing this bill to life. The Senate will take up the Bill on Monday, 2/6, with a final vote expected by the end of the day. Though this is not yet a done deal, there is every reason to believe the Senate will pass the Bill and send it to the President for signature.
Hey, I liked this. It looks as the first step into leaving us alone and finally make a distinction between us and sUAVs
This would never have been possible if it wasn’t for the efforts and support of Senator James Inhofe (R-Okla) in introducing an amendment protecting model aviation into the Senate version of the Bill. And, it would never have been possible without you, the AMA member, in your response to AMA’s call to action during last spring’s Congressional Awareness campaign.
Passage by the House is but the first step in the final process ofToday the U.S. House of Representatives passed the FAA Modernization and Reform Act of 2012, H.R. 658. In passing the Bill the House adopted a provision presented by the joint Conference Committee aimed at protecting model aviation from burdensome regulation.
This would never have been possible if it wasn’t for the efforts and support of Senator James Inhofe (R-Okla) in introducing an amendment protecting model aviation into the Senate version of the Bill. And, it would never have been possible without you, the AMA member, in your response to AMA’s call to action during last spring’s Congressional Awareness campaign.
Passage by the House is but the first step in the final process of bringing this bill to life. The Senate will take up the Bill on Monday, 2/6, with a final vote expected by the end of the day. Though this is not yet a done deal, there is every reason to believe the Senate will pass the Bill and send it to the President for signature.
bringing this bill to life. The Senate will take up the Bill on Monday, 2/6, with a final vote expected by the end of the day. Though this is not yet a done deal, there is every reason to believe the Senate will pass the Bill and send it to the President for signature.
Hey, I liked this. It looks as the first step into leaving us alone and finally make a distinction between us and sUAVs
02-04-2012, 06:20 AM
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RE: Regulation passed the House
heres a place to start
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d112:h.r.00658:
the bill text in pdf is http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-1...12hr658rds.pdf
if you are asking what a 300 page bill, plus amendments, says... uh.. the answer is "a lot"
I just did a search of the list of amendments and found nothing for "model" nor for 'recreation'.
I did a search of the 300page text and couldnt find "model aircraft", nor did ant uses of the term "model" seem to be about model aircraft (found terms like 'staffing model' )
uh, if H658 is protecting models, where is that text?
edit append:
Amendment #12 about UAV dont talk about models
UPDATE-
The OP brought up a recent passage of h658, but that is not the text available on Thomas.
Please refer to post #22 by BP for the Conference Report that just happened, THAT has the new info.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d112:h.r.00658:
the bill text in pdf is http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-1...12hr658rds.pdf
if you are asking what a 300 page bill, plus amendments, says... uh.. the answer is "a lot"
I just did a search of the list of amendments and found nothing for "model" nor for 'recreation'.
I did a search of the 300page text and couldnt find "model aircraft", nor did ant uses of the term "model" seem to be about model aircraft (found terms like 'staffing model' )
uh, if H658 is protecting models, where is that text?
edit append:
Amendment #12 about UAV dont talk about models
UPDATE-
The OP brought up a recent passage of h658, but that is not the text available on Thomas.
Please refer to post #22 by BP for the Conference Report that just happened, THAT has the new info.
02-04-2012, 06:45 AM
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RE: Regulation passed the House
uh, this aint pretty
I found a UAV amendment, but it is just references to page after page of open congress record text,
meaning all of the rambling on and on by congressmen along with the important parts buried in the blahblahblah.
We know the senate passes a bill with a Model Airplane amendment,
and I said back then that it was a mistake to staple our 1/2page to the back of a 400page multibillion dollar contested spending bill, but thats where it was and S223 with a86 is in the void after passing the Senate. Now we have H658 pass the House with its (house majority party) spending cuts, and hope that contested bill will pass thru the (Senate majority party) controlled Senate.
Does the senate majority party like whats in the House bill? Lets take a listen to the bickering in the House over some of the goodies in the bill-
House debate on one of the UAV Amendment discussion pages:
aaaaaaaand he rambles on forever about how cuts and union rules make the entire bill unsupportable.
So,
are we all just going to assume H685 with its spending cuts and union busting
will coast unanimously thru HarryRied's Senate?
I hate talking politics,
but thats what we get for stapling our 1/2page to a partisan contested multibillion dollar spending bill full of union-busting and funding cuts
I found a UAV amendment, but it is just references to page after page of open congress record text,
meaning all of the rambling on and on by congressmen along with the important parts buried in the blahblahblah.
We know the senate passes a bill with a Model Airplane amendment,
and I said back then that it was a mistake to staple our 1/2page to the back of a 400page multibillion dollar contested spending bill, but thats where it was and S223 with a86 is in the void after passing the Senate. Now we have H658 pass the House with its (house majority party) spending cuts, and hope that contested bill will pass thru the (Senate majority party) controlled Senate.
Does the senate majority party like whats in the House bill? Lets take a listen to the bickering in the House over some of the goodies in the bill-
House debate on one of the UAV Amendment discussion pages:
Furthermore, today's bill contains a poison pill for those Americans working hard on our airways and railways that would change the method of counting votes in a union election.
Last year, the National Mediation Board rightly decided that union elections for workers in the airline and rail industries would be counted just as we count every other vote, whether for President, Congress or even when voting on legislation here in the House of Representatives.
It's simple: if you show up and vote ``yes,'' it's a yes. If you show up and vote ``no,'' it's a no.
But this legislation would repeal the ruling of the NMB and count ghost votes, because if you do not show up, you're considered a ``no.''
We cannot continue to attack hard working employees across this country for political purposes. I urge my colleagues to support the LaTourette/Costello Amendment to strike this misguided section of the bill and preserve fairness in union elections.
I am also happy that my friend, Mr. LOBIONDO's amendment for the NextGen Center of Excellence was agreed to. I have been with my colleague from south Jersey to the FAA Tech Center and know that it does a fantastic job. Supporting these employees also means providing the best training possible, which in turn will make our skies safer and the flow of commerce better.
Finally, I would like to stand with the families of the victims of Flight 3407, and oppose the amendment from my friend Mr. SHUSTER. We need to stand behind the law we passed last year to improve safety standards, and continue to demand one strong level of safety for the entire aviation industry.
Mr. DINGELL. Mr. Chair, I rise in opposition to H.R. 658 as it currently stands. While I support a long-term reauthorization of the Federal Aviation Administration, this bill is the wrong approach to doing so. I was extremely disappointed in the decision of my Republican colleagues to slash funding levels for the FAA by $4 billion over the next four years. These proposed cuts would jeopardize the Next Generation Air Transportation System air traffic control modernization efforts and devastate safety-sensitive programs.
Worse yet, H.R. 658 slashes the FAA's Airport Improvement Program (AIP) by $2 billion through 2014. The AIP program is essential for airports to handle ...
Last year, the National Mediation Board rightly decided that union elections for workers in the airline and rail industries would be counted just as we count every other vote, whether for President, Congress or even when voting on legislation here in the House of Representatives.
It's simple: if you show up and vote ``yes,'' it's a yes. If you show up and vote ``no,'' it's a no.
But this legislation would repeal the ruling of the NMB and count ghost votes, because if you do not show up, you're considered a ``no.''
We cannot continue to attack hard working employees across this country for political purposes. I urge my colleagues to support the LaTourette/Costello Amendment to strike this misguided section of the bill and preserve fairness in union elections.
I am also happy that my friend, Mr. LOBIONDO's amendment for the NextGen Center of Excellence was agreed to. I have been with my colleague from south Jersey to the FAA Tech Center and know that it does a fantastic job. Supporting these employees also means providing the best training possible, which in turn will make our skies safer and the flow of commerce better.
Finally, I would like to stand with the families of the victims of Flight 3407, and oppose the amendment from my friend Mr. SHUSTER. We need to stand behind the law we passed last year to improve safety standards, and continue to demand one strong level of safety for the entire aviation industry.
Mr. DINGELL. Mr. Chair, I rise in opposition to H.R. 658 as it currently stands. While I support a long-term reauthorization of the Federal Aviation Administration, this bill is the wrong approach to doing so. I was extremely disappointed in the decision of my Republican colleagues to slash funding levels for the FAA by $4 billion over the next four years. These proposed cuts would jeopardize the Next Generation Air Transportation System air traffic control modernization efforts and devastate safety-sensitive programs.
Worse yet, H.R. 658 slashes the FAA's Airport Improvement Program (AIP) by $2 billion through 2014. The AIP program is essential for airports to handle ...
So,
are we all just going to assume H685 with its spending cuts and union busting
will coast unanimously thru HarryRied's Senate?
I hate talking politics,
but thats what we get for stapling our 1/2page to a partisan contested multibillion dollar spending bill full of union-busting and funding cuts
02-04-2012, 07:27 AM
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RE: Regulation passed the House
No Flutter Airlerons?
uh, found some scary UAV talk in the bill,
no specific mention of protecting "Model Aircraft"
but the regular Public - Civil chat plus a new "Certain UAS" special category
(sorry, but its written in the format of congress-speak)
uh, found some scary UAV talk in the bill,
no specific mention of protecting "Model Aircraft"
but the regular Public - Civil chat plus a new "Certain UAS" special category
(sorry, but its written in the format of congress-speak)
21 Subtitle B—Unmanned Aircraft
22 Systems
23 SEC. 321. DEFINITIONS.
24 In this subtitle, the following definitions apply:
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1 (1) CERTIFICATE OF WAIVER; CERTIFICATE OF
2 AUTHORIZATION.—The term ‘‘certificate of waiver’’
3 or ‘‘certificate of authorization’’ means a Federal
4 Aviation Administration grant of approval for a spe
5 cific flight operation.
6 (2) SENSE AND AVOID CAPABILITY.—The term
7 ‘‘sense and avoid capability’’ means the capability of
8 an unmanned aircraft to remain a safe distance
9 from and to avoid collisions with other airborne air
10 craft.
11 (3) PUBLIC UNMANNED AIRCRAFT SYSTEM.—
12 The term ‘‘public unmanned aircraft system’’ means
13 an unmanned aircraft system that meets the quali
14 fications and conditions required for operation of a
15 public aircraft, as defined by section 40102 of title
16 49, United States Code.
17 (4) SMALL UNMANNED AIRCRAFT.—The term
18 ‘‘small unmanned aircraft’’ means an unmanned air
19 craft weighing less than 55 pounds.
20 (5) TEST RANGE.—The term ‘‘test range’’
21 means a defined geographic area where research and
22 development are conducted.
23 (6) UNMANNED AIRCRAFT.—The term ‘‘un
24 manned aircraft’’ means an aircraft that is operated
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1 without the possibility of direct human intervention
2 from within or on the aircraft.
3 (7) UNMANNED AIRCRAFT SYSTEM.—The term
4 ‘‘unmanned aircraft system’’ means an unmanned
5 aircraft and associated elements (including commu
6 nication links and the components that control the
7 unmanned aircraft) that are required for the pilot in
8 command to operate safely and efficiently in the na
9 tional airspace system.
10 SEC. 322. CIVIL UNMANNED AIRCRAFT SYSTEMS INTEGRA
11 TION PLAN.
12 (a) INTEGRATION PLAN.—
13 (1) COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.—Not later than
14 270 days after the date of enactment of this Act, the
15 Secretary of Transportation, in consultation with
16 representatives of the aviation industry, Federal
17 agencies that employ unmanned aircraft systems
18 technology in the national airspace system, and the
19 unmanned aircraft systems industry, shall develop a
20 comprehensive plan to safely integrate civil un
21 manned aircraft systems into the national airspace
22 system.
23 (2) MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS.—In developing
24 the plan under paragraph (1), the Secretary shall, at
25 a minimum—
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1 (A) review technologies and research that
2 will assist in facilitating the safe integration of
3 civil unmanned aircraft systems into the na
4 tional airspace system;
5 (B) provide recommendations or projec
6 tions for the rulemaking to be conducted under
7 subsection (b)—
8 (i) to define the acceptable standards
9 for operations and certification of civil un
10 manned aircraft systems;
11 (ii) to ensure that civil unmanned air
12 craft systems include a sense and avoid ca
13 pability, if necessary for safety purposes;
14 (iii) to develop standards and require
15 ments for unmanned aircraft systems sense
16 and avoid performance; and
17 (iv) to develop standards and require
18 ments for the operator and pilot of a com
19 mercial unmanned aircraft system, includ
20 ing standards and requirements for reg
21 istration and licensing;
22 (C) recommend how best to enhance the
23 technologies and subsystems necessary to pro
24 vide for the safe and routine operations of com-
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1 mercial unmanned aircraft systems in the na
2 tional airspace system; and
3 (D) recommend how a phased-in approach
4 for the integration of civil unmanned aircraft
5 systems into the national airspace system can
6 best be achieved and a timeline upon which
7 such a phase-in shall occur.
8 (3) DEADLINE.—The plan to be developed
9 under paragraph (1) shall provide for the safe inte
10 gration of civil unmanned aircraft systems into the
11 national airspace system not later than September
12 30, 2015.
13 (4) REPORT TO CONGRESS.—The Secretary
14 shall submit to Congress—
15 (A) not later than 1 year after the date of
16 enactment of this Act, a copy of the plan devel
17 oped under paragraph (1); and
18 (B) annually thereafter, a report on the ac
19 tivities of the Secretary under this section.
20 (b) RULEMAKING.—Not later than 18 months after
21 the date on which the integration plan is submitted to
22 Congress under subsection (a)(4), the Administrator of
23 the Federal Aviation Administration shall publish in the
24 Federal Register a notice of proposed rulemaking to im
25 plement the recommendations of the integration plan.
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1 SEC. 323. SPECIAL RULES FOR CERTAIN UNMANNED AIR
2 CRAFT SYSTEMS.
3 (a) IN GENERAL.—Not later than 180 days after the
4 date of enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Transpor
5 tation shall determine if certain unmanned aircraft sys
6 tems may operate safely in the national airspace system.
7 The Secretary may make such determination before com
8 pletion of the plan and rulemaking required by section 322
9 of this Act or the guidance required by section 324 of this
10 Act.
11 (b) ASSESSMENT OF UNMANNED AIRCRAFT SYS
12 TEMS.—In making the determination under subsection
13 (a), the Secretary shall determine, at a minimum—
14 (1) which types of unmanned aircraft systems,
15 if any, as a result of their size, weight, speed, oper
16 ational capability, proximity to airports and popu
17 lation areas, and operation within visual line-of-sight
18 do not create a hazard to users of the national air
19 space system or the public or pose a threat to na
20 tional security; and
21 (2) whether a certificate of waiver, certificate of
22 authorization, or airworthiness certification under
23 section 44704 of title 49, United States Code, is re
24 quired for the operation of unmanned aircraft sys
25 tems identified under paragraph (1).
1 (c) REQUIREMENTS FOR SAFE OPERATION.—If the
2 Secretary determines under this section that certain un
3 manned aircraft systems may operate safely in the na
4 tional airspace system, the Secretary shall establish re
5 quirements for the safe operation of such aircraft systems
6 in the national airspace system.
7 SEC. 324. PUBLIC UNMANNED AIRCRAFT SYSTEMS.
8 (a) GUIDANCE.—Not later than 270 days after the
9 date of enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Transpor
10 tation shall issue guidance regarding the operation of pub
11 lic unmanned aircraft systems to—
12 (1) expedite the issuance of a certificate of au
13 thorization process;
14 (2) provide for a collaborative process with pub
15 lic agencies to allow for an incremental expansion of
16 access to the national airspace system as technology
17 matures, as the necessary safety analysis and data
18 become available, and until standards are completed
19 and technology issues are resolved;
20 (3) facilitate the capability of public agencies to
21 develop and use test ranges, subject to operating re
22 strictions required by the Federal Aviation Adminis
23 tration, to test and operate unmanned aircraft sys
24 tems; and
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1 (4) provide guidance on a public entity’s re
2 sponsibility when operating an unmanned aircraft
3 without a civil airworthiness certificate issued by the
4 Federal Aviation Administration.
5 (b) STANDARDS FOR OPERATION AND CERTIFI
6 CATION.—Not later than December 31, 2015, the Sec
7 retary shall develop and implement operational and certifi
8 cation requirements for operational procedures for public
9 unmanned aircraft systems in the national airspace sys
10 tem.
11 (c) AGREEMENTS WITH GOVERNMENT AGENCIES.—
12 (1) IN GENERAL.—Not later than 90 days after
13 the date of enactment of this Act, the Secretary
14 shall enter into agreements with appropriate govern
15 ment agencies to simplify the process for issuing cer
16 tificates of waiver or authorization with respect to
17 applications seeking authorization to operate public
18 unmanned aircraft systems in the national airspace
19 system.
20 (2) CONTENTS.—The agreements shall—
21 (A) with respect to an application de
22 scribed in paragraph (1)—
23 (i) provide for an expedited review of
24 the application;
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1 (ii) require a decision by the Adminis
2 trator on approval or disapproval within 60
3 business days of the date of submission of
4 the application; and
5 (iii) allow for an expedited appeal if
6 the application is disapproved;
7 (B) allow for a one-time approval of simi
8 lar operations carried out during a fixed period
9 of time; and
10 (C) allow a government public safety agen
11 cy to operate unmanned aircraft weighing 4.4
12 pounds or less, within the line of sight of the
13 operator, less than 400 feet above the ground
14 during daylight conditions, within Class G air
15 space, outside of 5 statute miles from any air
16 port, heliport, seaplane base or spaceport, or
17 any location with aviation activities.
18 SEC. 325. SAFETY STUDIES.
19 The Administrator of the Federal Aviation Adminis
20 tration shall carry out all safety studies necessary to sup
21 port the integration of unmanned aircraft systems into the
22 national airspace system.
22 Systems
23 SEC. 321. DEFINITIONS.
24 In this subtitle, the following definitions apply:
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1 (1) CERTIFICATE OF WAIVER; CERTIFICATE OF
2 AUTHORIZATION.—The term ‘‘certificate of waiver’’
3 or ‘‘certificate of authorization’’ means a Federal
4 Aviation Administration grant of approval for a spe
5 cific flight operation.
6 (2) SENSE AND AVOID CAPABILITY.—The term
7 ‘‘sense and avoid capability’’ means the capability of
8 an unmanned aircraft to remain a safe distance
9 from and to avoid collisions with other airborne air
10 craft.
11 (3) PUBLIC UNMANNED AIRCRAFT SYSTEM.—
12 The term ‘‘public unmanned aircraft system’’ means
13 an unmanned aircraft system that meets the quali
14 fications and conditions required for operation of a
15 public aircraft, as defined by section 40102 of title
16 49, United States Code.
17 (4) SMALL UNMANNED AIRCRAFT.—The term
18 ‘‘small unmanned aircraft’’ means an unmanned air
19 craft weighing less than 55 pounds.
20 (5) TEST RANGE.—The term ‘‘test range’’
21 means a defined geographic area where research and
22 development are conducted.
23 (6) UNMANNED AIRCRAFT.—The term ‘‘un
24 manned aircraft’’ means an aircraft that is operated
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1 without the possibility of direct human intervention
2 from within or on the aircraft.
3 (7) UNMANNED AIRCRAFT SYSTEM.—The term
4 ‘‘unmanned aircraft system’’ means an unmanned
5 aircraft and associated elements (including commu
6 nication links and the components that control the
7 unmanned aircraft) that are required for the pilot in
8 command to operate safely and efficiently in the na
9 tional airspace system.
10 SEC. 322. CIVIL UNMANNED AIRCRAFT SYSTEMS INTEGRA
11 TION PLAN.
12 (a) INTEGRATION PLAN.—
13 (1) COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.—Not later than
14 270 days after the date of enactment of this Act, the
15 Secretary of Transportation, in consultation with
16 representatives of the aviation industry, Federal
17 agencies that employ unmanned aircraft systems
18 technology in the national airspace system, and the
19 unmanned aircraft systems industry, shall develop a
20 comprehensive plan to safely integrate civil un
21 manned aircraft systems into the national airspace
22 system.
23 (2) MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS.—In developing
24 the plan under paragraph (1), the Secretary shall, at
25 a minimum—
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1 (A) review technologies and research that
2 will assist in facilitating the safe integration of
3 civil unmanned aircraft systems into the na
4 tional airspace system;
5 (B) provide recommendations or projec
6 tions for the rulemaking to be conducted under
7 subsection (b)—
8 (i) to define the acceptable standards
9 for operations and certification of civil un
10 manned aircraft systems;
11 (ii) to ensure that civil unmanned air
12 craft systems include a sense and avoid ca
13 pability, if necessary for safety purposes;
14 (iii) to develop standards and require
15 ments for unmanned aircraft systems sense
16 and avoid performance; and
17 (iv) to develop standards and require
18 ments for the operator and pilot of a com
19 mercial unmanned aircraft system, includ
20 ing standards and requirements for reg
21 istration and licensing;
22 (C) recommend how best to enhance the
23 technologies and subsystems necessary to pro
24 vide for the safe and routine operations of com-
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1 mercial unmanned aircraft systems in the na
2 tional airspace system; and
3 (D) recommend how a phased-in approach
4 for the integration of civil unmanned aircraft
5 systems into the national airspace system can
6 best be achieved and a timeline upon which
7 such a phase-in shall occur.
8 (3) DEADLINE.—The plan to be developed
9 under paragraph (1) shall provide for the safe inte
10 gration of civil unmanned aircraft systems into the
11 national airspace system not later than September
12 30, 2015.
13 (4) REPORT TO CONGRESS.—The Secretary
14 shall submit to Congress—
15 (A) not later than 1 year after the date of
16 enactment of this Act, a copy of the plan devel
17 oped under paragraph (1); and
18 (B) annually thereafter, a report on the ac
19 tivities of the Secretary under this section.
20 (b) RULEMAKING.—Not later than 18 months after
21 the date on which the integration plan is submitted to
22 Congress under subsection (a)(4), the Administrator of
23 the Federal Aviation Administration shall publish in the
24 Federal Register a notice of proposed rulemaking to im
25 plement the recommendations of the integration plan.
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1 SEC. 323. SPECIAL RULES FOR CERTAIN UNMANNED AIR
2 CRAFT SYSTEMS.
3 (a) IN GENERAL.—Not later than 180 days after the
4 date of enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Transpor
5 tation shall determine if certain unmanned aircraft sys
6 tems may operate safely in the national airspace system.
7 The Secretary may make such determination before com
8 pletion of the plan and rulemaking required by section 322
9 of this Act or the guidance required by section 324 of this
10 Act.
11 (b) ASSESSMENT OF UNMANNED AIRCRAFT SYS
12 TEMS.—In making the determination under subsection
13 (a), the Secretary shall determine, at a minimum—
14 (1) which types of unmanned aircraft systems,
15 if any, as a result of their size, weight, speed, oper
16 ational capability, proximity to airports and popu
17 lation areas, and operation within visual line-of-sight
18 do not create a hazard to users of the national air
19 space system or the public or pose a threat to na
20 tional security; and
21 (2) whether a certificate of waiver, certificate of
22 authorization, or airworthiness certification under
23 section 44704 of title 49, United States Code, is re
24 quired for the operation of unmanned aircraft sys
25 tems identified under paragraph (1).
1 (c) REQUIREMENTS FOR SAFE OPERATION.—If the
2 Secretary determines under this section that certain un
3 manned aircraft systems may operate safely in the na
4 tional airspace system, the Secretary shall establish re
5 quirements for the safe operation of such aircraft systems
6 in the national airspace system.
7 SEC. 324. PUBLIC UNMANNED AIRCRAFT SYSTEMS.
8 (a) GUIDANCE.—Not later than 270 days after the
9 date of enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Transpor
10 tation shall issue guidance regarding the operation of pub
11 lic unmanned aircraft systems to—
12 (1) expedite the issuance of a certificate of au
13 thorization process;
14 (2) provide for a collaborative process with pub
15 lic agencies to allow for an incremental expansion of
16 access to the national airspace system as technology
17 matures, as the necessary safety analysis and data
18 become available, and until standards are completed
19 and technology issues are resolved;
20 (3) facilitate the capability of public agencies to
21 develop and use test ranges, subject to operating re
22 strictions required by the Federal Aviation Adminis
23 tration, to test and operate unmanned aircraft sys
24 tems; and
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1 (4) provide guidance on a public entity’s re
2 sponsibility when operating an unmanned aircraft
3 without a civil airworthiness certificate issued by the
4 Federal Aviation Administration.
5 (b) STANDARDS FOR OPERATION AND CERTIFI
6 CATION.—Not later than December 31, 2015, the Sec
7 retary shall develop and implement operational and certifi
8 cation requirements for operational procedures for public
9 unmanned aircraft systems in the national airspace sys
10 tem.
11 (c) AGREEMENTS WITH GOVERNMENT AGENCIES.—
12 (1) IN GENERAL.—Not later than 90 days after
13 the date of enactment of this Act, the Secretary
14 shall enter into agreements with appropriate govern
15 ment agencies to simplify the process for issuing cer
16 tificates of waiver or authorization with respect to
17 applications seeking authorization to operate public
18 unmanned aircraft systems in the national airspace
19 system.
20 (2) CONTENTS.—The agreements shall—
21 (A) with respect to an application de
22 scribed in paragraph (1)—
23 (i) provide for an expedited review of
24 the application;
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1 (ii) require a decision by the Adminis
2 trator on approval or disapproval within 60
3 business days of the date of submission of
4 the application; and
5 (iii) allow for an expedited appeal if
6 the application is disapproved;
7 (B) allow for a one-time approval of simi
8 lar operations carried out during a fixed period
9 of time; and
10 (C) allow a government public safety agen
11 cy to operate unmanned aircraft weighing 4.4
12 pounds or less, within the line of sight of the
13 operator, less than 400 feet above the ground
14 during daylight conditions, within Class G air
15 space, outside of 5 statute miles from any air
16 port, heliport, seaplane base or spaceport, or
17 any location with aviation activities.
18 SEC. 325. SAFETY STUDIES.
19 The Administrator of the Federal Aviation Adminis
20 tration shall carry out all safety studies necessary to sup
21 port the integration of unmanned aircraft systems into the
22 national airspace system.
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uh, this aint pretty
I found a UAV amendment, but it is just references to page after page of open congress record text,
meaning all of the rambling on and on by congressmen along with the important parts buried in the blahblahblah.
We know the senate passes a bill with a Model Airplane amendment,
and I said back then that it was a mistake to staple our 1/2page to the back of a 400page multibillion dollar contested spending bill, but thats where it was and S223 with a86 is in the void after passing the Senate. Now we have H658 pass the House with its (house majority party) spending cuts, and hope that contested bill will pass thru the (Senate majority party) controlled Senate.
So,
are we all just going to assume H685 with its spending cuts and union busting
will coast unanimously thru HarryRied's Senate?
I hate talking politics,
but thats what we get for stapling our 1/2page to a partisan contested multibillion dollar spending bill full of union-busting and funding cuts
uh, this aint pretty
I found a UAV amendment, but it is just references to page after page of open congress record text,
meaning all of the rambling on and on by congressmen along with the important parts buried in the blahblahblah.
We know the senate passes a bill with a Model Airplane amendment,
and I said back then that it was a mistake to staple our 1/2page to the back of a 400page multibillion dollar contested spending bill, but thats where it was and S223 with a86 is in the void after passing the Senate. Now we have H658 pass the House with its (house majority party) spending cuts, and hope that contested bill will pass thru the (Senate majority party) controlled Senate.
So,
are we all just going to assume H685 with its spending cuts and union busting
will coast unanimously thru HarryRied's Senate?
I hate talking politics,
but thats what we get for stapling our 1/2page to a partisan contested multibillion dollar spending bill full of union-busting and funding cuts
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Kid,
I read through your post and saw where sUAVs are defined as unmanned aircraft weighing less than 55 pounds but I didn't see where model or toy airplanes flown for recreational use are exempt from the operating rules and equipment requirements being proposed for sUAVs. Did I miss it? (Admittedly, I was starting to go crosseyed about halfway through your post.)
Harvey
I read through your post and saw where sUAVs are defined as unmanned aircraft weighing less than 55 pounds but I didn't see where model or toy airplanes flown for recreational use are exempt from the operating rules and equipment requirements being proposed for sUAVs. Did I miss it? (Admittedly, I was starting to go crosseyed about halfway through your post.)
Harvey
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Read's to me as if we will have to apply for special waiver's for varying model's depending on weight. Of course with the government these waiver's will have requirement's within themselve's, such as back ground check's, personnal reference's, etc. Probably will be very similar to a consealed weapon's permit. And of course with all this there's the associated fee's.
So a waiver card on hand for sUAV's and registration's for each aircraft. Mind you this will not be a local cival penalty but rather a Federal criminal offense.
So a waiver card on hand for sUAV's and registration's for each aircraft. Mind you this will not be a local cival penalty but rather a Federal criminal offense.
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What does the National Flute Association have to do with it?
Harvey
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Exactly like the lawful NFA hobby.
How funny.
Exactly like the lawful NFA hobby.
How funny.
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Sport Pilot, sUAV's are what we fly. To us there toy's but not to the government.
Also keep in mind this also fall's under Homeland Security which bring's with it, under violation, loss of civil right's.
Also keep in mind this also fall's under Homeland Security which bring's with it, under violation, loss of civil right's.
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Harvey
Like I said, I did a Find on the pdf of the text and didnt see the term Model Aircraft anywhere.
I did see the text (posted above) that talked about UAV,
and just like you, I didnt see any protection for us in there,
what I saw was congress requiring the FAA to tell us ('Certain UAV') what to do, not a shield from the FAA telling us what to do as we saw in the Senate s223a86
I fail to see anything to rejoice over,
in fact, we may be in deeper trouble now
and that is a part of Certain Civil UAV (us modelers??)
but I didn't see where model or toy airplanes flown for recreational use are exempt from the operating rules and equipment requirements being proposed for sUAVs. Did I miss it?
I did see the text (posted above) that talked about UAV,
and just like you, I didnt see any protection for us in there,
what I saw was congress requiring the FAA to tell us ('Certain UAV') what to do, not a shield from the FAA telling us what to do as we saw in the Senate s223a86
I fail to see anything to rejoice over,
in fact, we may be in deeper trouble now
11 (b) ASSESSMENT OF UNMANNED AIRCRAFT SYS
12 TEMS.—In making the determination under subsection
13 (a), the Secretary shall determine, at a minimum—
14 (1) which types of unmanned aircraft systems,
15 if any, as a result of their size, weight, speed, oper
16 ational capability, proximity to airports and popu
17 lation areas, and operation within visual line-of-sight
18 do not create a hazard to users of the national air
19 space system or the public or pose a threat to na
20 tional security; and
21 (2) whether a certificate of waiver, certificate of
22 authorization, or airworthiness certification under
23 section 44704 of title 49, United States Code, is re
24 quired for the operation of unmanned aircraft sys
25 tems identified under paragraph (1).
1 (c) REQUIREMENTS FOR SAFE OPERATION.—If the
2 Secretary determines under this section that certain un
3 manned aircraft systems may operate safely in the na
4 tional airspace system, the Secretary shall establish re
5 quirements for the safe operation of such aircraft systems
6 in the national airspace system.
12 TEMS.—In making the determination under subsection
13 (a), the Secretary shall determine, at a minimum—
14 (1) which types of unmanned aircraft systems,
15 if any, as a result of their size, weight, speed, oper
16 ational capability, proximity to airports and popu
17 lation areas, and operation within visual line-of-sight
18 do not create a hazard to users of the national air
19 space system or the public or pose a threat to na
20 tional security; and
21 (2) whether a certificate of waiver, certificate of
22 authorization, or airworthiness certification under
23 section 44704 of title 49, United States Code, is re
24 quired for the operation of unmanned aircraft sys
25 tems identified under paragraph (1).
1 (c) REQUIREMENTS FOR SAFE OPERATION.—If the
2 Secretary determines under this section that certain un
3 manned aircraft systems may operate safely in the na
4 tional airspace system, the Secretary shall establish re
5 quirements for the safe operation of such aircraft systems
6 in the national airspace system.
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Oh no, somehow I knew this was going to happen. Some people are never happy. I think this is a good little step towards no regulations agaist us or at least to keep our hobby like it is now. That would make me very happy
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I think this is a good little step towards no regulations agaist us or at least to keep our hobby like it is now. That would make me very happy
I think this is a good little step towards no regulations agaist us or at least to keep our hobby like it is now. That would make me very happy
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Unfortunately, failure to specifically authorize our access to the NAS (even if just the lowermost levels)...
Harvey
Unfortunately, failure to specifically authorize our access to the NAS (even if just the lowermost levels)...
Harvey
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Harvey
Like I said, I did a Find on the pdf of the text and didnt see the term Model Aircraft anywhere.
I did see the text (posted above) that talked about UAV,
and just like you, I didnt see any protection for us in there,
what I saw was congress requiring the FAA to tell us ('Certain UAV') what to do, not a shield from the FAA telling us what to do as we saw in the Senate s223a86
I fail to see anything to rejoice over,
in fact, we may be in deeper trouble now
and that is a part of Certain Civil UAV (us modelers??)
Harvey
but I didn't see where model or toy airplanes flown for recreational use are exempt from the operating rules and equipment requirements being proposed for sUAVs. Did I miss it?
I did see the text (posted above) that talked about UAV,
and just like you, I didnt see any protection for us in there,
what I saw was congress requiring the FAA to tell us ('Certain UAV') what to do, not a shield from the FAA telling us what to do as we saw in the Senate s223a86
I fail to see anything to rejoice over,
in fact, we may be in deeper trouble now
11 (b) ASSESSMENT OF UNMANNED AIRCRAFT SYS
12 TEMS.—In making the determination under subsection
13 (a), the Secretary shall determine, at a minimum—
14 (1) which types of unmanned aircraft systems,
15 if any, as a result of their size, weight, speed, oper
16 ational capability, proximity to airports and popu
17 lation areas, and operation within visual line-of-sight
18 do not create a hazard to users of the national air
19 space system or the public or pose a threat to na
20 tional security; and
21 (2) whether a certificate of waiver, certificate of
22 authorization, or airworthiness certification under
23 section 44704 of title 49, United States Code, is re
24 quired for the operation of unmanned aircraft sys
25 tems identified under paragraph (1).
1 (c) REQUIREMENTS FOR SAFE OPERATION.—If the
2 Secretary determines under this section that certain un
3 manned aircraft systems may operate safely in the na
4 tional airspace system, the Secretary shall establish re
5 quirements for the safe operation of such aircraft systems
6 in the national airspace system.
12 TEMS.—In making the determination under subsection
13 (a), the Secretary shall determine, at a minimum—
14 (1) which types of unmanned aircraft systems,
15 if any, as a result of their size, weight, speed, oper
16 ational capability, proximity to airports and popu
17 lation areas, and operation within visual line-of-sight
18 do not create a hazard to users of the national air
19 space system or the public or pose a threat to na
20 tional security; and
21 (2) whether a certificate of waiver, certificate of
22 authorization, or airworthiness certification under
23 section 44704 of title 49, United States Code, is re
24 quired for the operation of unmanned aircraft sys
25 tems identified under paragraph (1).
1 (c) REQUIREMENTS FOR SAFE OPERATION.—If the
2 Secretary determines under this section that certain un
3 manned aircraft systems may operate safely in the na
4 tional airspace system, the Secretary shall establish re
5 quirements for the safe operation of such aircraft systems
6 in the national airspace system.
Of course the sky is falling and you must ignore the specific criteria for the Secretary's determining which do not pose hazards....including most notably how RC planes operate........LINEOFSIGHT
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Here is a link to the relavent section of the house/senate conference report which was the wording passed yesterday and goes to the sanate on Monday.
Congressional Record:
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CREC-20...-4.pdf#page=19
Thomas:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/...8XWBy:e214532:
Brad
Congressional Record:
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CREC-20...-4.pdf#page=19
Thomas:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/...8XWBy:e214532:
SEC. 336. SPECIAL RULE FOR MODEL AIRCRAFT.
(a)In General.Notwithstanding any other provision of law relating to the incorporation of unmanned aircraft systems into Federal Aviation Administration plans and policies, including this subtitle, the Administrator of the Federal Aviation Administration may not promulgate any rule or regulation regarding a model aircraft, or an aircraft being developed as a model aircraft, if
(1) the aircraft is flown strictly for hobby or recreational use;
(2) the aircraft is operated in accordance with a community-based set of safety guidelines and within the programming of a nationwide community-based organization;
(3) the aircraft is limited to not more than 55 pounds unless otherwise certified through a design, construction, inspection, flight test, and operational safety program administered by a community-based organization;
(4) the aircraft is operated in a manner that does not interfere with and gives way to any manned aircraft; and
(5) when flown within 5 miles of an airport, the operator of the aircraft provides the airport operator and the airport air traffic control tower (when an air traffic facility is located at the airport) with prior notice of the operation (model aircraft operators flying from a permanent location within 5 miles of an airport should establish a mutually-agreed upon operating procedure with the airport operator and the airport air traffic control tower (when an air traffic facility is located at the airport)).
(b)Statutory Construction.Nothing in this section shall be construed to limit the authority of the Administrator to pursue enforcement action against persons operating model aircraft who endanger the safety of the national airspace system.
(c)Model Aircraft Defined.In this section, the term ``model aircraft'' means an unmanned aircraft that is
(1) capable of sustained flight in the atmosphere;
(2) flown within visual line of sight of the person operating the aircraft; and
(3) flown for hobby or recreational purposes.
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Brad, excellent find! Let's hope that the wording doesn't get dropped or negatively modified before the bill makes it into law.
Everybody, please note that this bill doesn't kill the NPRM. The FAA will still have to spell out how it will comply with and enforce the provisions of the bill that came out yesterday. That proposal will be the basis of the NPRM. To a certain extent, how and where we will be able to fly our models is still uncertain.
Harvey
Everybody, please note that this bill doesn't kill the NPRM. The FAA will still have to spell out how it will comply with and enforce the provisions of the bill that came out yesterday. That proposal will be the basis of the NPRM. To a certain extent, how and where we will be able to fly our models is still uncertain.
Harvey