RC advertising vs. safety guide lines?
08-01-2011, 04:55 AM
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...So a park flyer is being flown...in a park.
I don't see the big deal. I could see safety issues if it was a big glow powered model, but come on. It's a tiny little parkie. You could thunk it into someone's head and you'd still be hard pressed to do any serious damage.
I say stop spazzing out about safety at every single thing you see and live a little. Tiny little parkies like this one are just not strong enough to do any permanent damage. They're called park flyers for a reason, you know.
...So a park flyer is being flown...in a park.
I don't see the big deal. I could see safety issues if it was a big glow powered model, but come on. It's a tiny little parkie. You could thunk it into someone's head and you'd still be hard pressed to do any serious damage.
I say stop spazzing out about safety at every single thing you see and live a little. Tiny little parkies like this one are just not strong enough to do any permanent damage. They're called park flyers for a reason, you know.
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Nice flying and like its been said there is nothing wrong with flying a park flyer in a park. Why was this thread even started???[&o]
Nice flying and like its been said there is nothing wrong with flying a park flyer in a park. Why was this thread even started???[&o]
In these day of Over Litigation and the AMA working to present our sport as "Safe" in the eyes of the FAA and Congress etc. Our Sport has a spot light on it,, any screw ups could hurt us all.
Sure I fly my park fliers at the park too on occasion,, but a company presenting it product this way really pushes the limits of common sense,, It's one thing flying around in an empty soccer field, but using Light standards as pylon turns??
When I lived in So Cal I rode a lot of Off Road Motorcycle,, Being also part of the other AMA we were in a constant battle to present our sport in the best light possible,, Greenie groups were and are always looking to take our riding rights away.. Every time we would see a news story it wasn't about how much some M/C group or club raised for charity,, it was about some knuckle heads getting hurt or breaking the law. People are always watching and ready to point out your screw ups..
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I try not to ever spazz out,, that always leads to a hissy fit
08-01-2011, 05:22 AM
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RE: RC advertising vs. safety guide lines?
Hey I have seeing videos for online hobby shops of people fying micros in gyms full of spectators or in ones living room.
Over 40 size glows you need a flying field, smaller than that you can fly anywhere. I also dont see anything wrong with the ad.
On the contrary, that pilot is good[:-]
Over 40 size glows you need a flying field, smaller than that you can fly anywhere. I also dont see anything wrong with the ad.
On the contrary, that pilot is good[:-]
08-01-2011, 05:33 AM
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I knew this would turn into one of those "safer is common sense" discussions and eventually lead into AMA is working hard to protect us from ourselves... Now I wish it would have been an advertisement with foxy girls in bikinis we were arguing.
You know, when someone throws out "it would be safer to..." how do you argue that and where will that end???? Sure, we can just crawl into our workshops, pull the electricity, assume the fetal position and just shiver in the corner wondering what we overlooked... but I'd rather not.
Look, I am sure most people use good and common sense in most situations... for the others, the idiots, there really isn't much you can do anyway... I figure while flying this model, enough margin was maintained that safety concerns were just fine...and that is the case most often despite the youtube idiot evidence that is undoubtedly forthcoming...all idiots will continue regardless of AMA, rules, or laws and the proof is... they do!!!
You know, when someone throws out "it would be safer to..." how do you argue that and where will that end???? Sure, we can just crawl into our workshops, pull the electricity, assume the fetal position and just shiver in the corner wondering what we overlooked... but I'd rather not.
Look, I am sure most people use good and common sense in most situations... for the others, the idiots, there really isn't much you can do anyway... I figure while flying this model, enough margin was maintained that safety concerns were just fine...and that is the case most often despite the youtube idiot evidence that is undoubtedly forthcoming...all idiots will continue regardless of AMA, rules, or laws and the proof is... they do!!!
08-01-2011, 05:52 AM
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All True,
But when a company shows you, by having an obviously expert pilot, fly around in a tight space as that vid shows,, any Joe blow rank armature will run to the hobby shop and think they can do the same,, will the results be the same,, I kinda doubt it.
But when a company shows you, by having an obviously expert pilot, fly around in a tight space as that vid shows,, any Joe blow rank armature will run to the hobby shop and think they can do the same,, will the results be the same,, I kinda doubt it.
08-01-2011, 06:10 AM
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any Joe blow rank armature will run to the hobby shop and think they can do the same,, will the results be the same,, I kinda doubt it.
any Joe blow rank armature will run to the hobby shop and think they can do the same,, will the results be the same,, I kinda doubt it.
Anyway as someone pointed out...maybe not in the best words, the likelihood of any serious damage to property of person is so slight that it is hardly worth mentioning.... I think we have endless things that are many magnitudes higher in our day to day life we accept...might should worry about... before this becomes any kind of priority.
Yes, there are plenty of examples, condoned by AMA, that are much more likely to have unfortunate outcomes that would be many times worse than this example could ever have...but it is counter productive to harp on them...so I won't.
Hmmm... let's try not to vilify our own hobby, please???
08-01-2011, 06:27 AM
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All True,
But when a company shows you, by having an obviously expert pilot, fly around in a tight space as that vid shows,, any Joe blow rank armature will run to the hobby shop and think they can do the same,, will the results be the same,, I kinda doubt it.
All True,
But when a company shows you, by having an obviously expert pilot, fly around in a tight space as that vid shows,, any Joe blow rank armature will run to the hobby shop and think they can do the same,, will the results be the same,, I kinda doubt it.
Take for example the Budweiser commercials. Some 'loser guy' is at a bar, quietly drinking a glass of beer from the tap. Everyone else around him is having a good time and completely ignoring him. A few minutes later, asks the bartender for a Bud Light. After taking just one sip of the Bud Light and putting the bottle on the bar, he is suddenly surrounded by the three Budweiser Girls !! And he is not imagining it. It is real !!
I rest my case.
08-01-2011, 06:36 AM
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But that is what advertising is all about ... leading the average consumer to think he will have the same results right from the beginning.
But that is what advertising is all about ... leading the average consumer to think he will have the same results right from the beginning.
08-01-2011, 07:09 AM
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What would the AMA think...................... about a parkflyer being flown in a park without spectators??
Seems to meet all the provisions of the Safety Code ........... so the opinion would be have fun and fly safe.......................
How can anybody find something wrong with that????????????????????
Brad
Seems to meet all the provisions of the Safety Code ........... so the opinion would be have fun and fly safe.......................
How can anybody find something wrong with that????????????????????
Brad
08-01-2011, 07:48 AM
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Joe Armature, you are invited fly it in my street, yard, driveway.......... any time you darn well please.
edit: forgot to mention safety rules, always important......
Rules
Close the veranda gate behind you - don't want the stupid dog falling in the pool
edit: forgot to mention safety rules, always important......
Rules
Close the veranda gate behind you - don't want the stupid dog falling in the pool
08-01-2011, 08:11 AM
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LOL, a little temporary damage is ok with you?
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...So a park flyer is being flown...in a park.
I don't see the big deal. I could see safety issues if it was a big glow powered model, but come on. It's a tiny little parkie. You could thunk it into someone's head and you'd still be hard pressed to do any serious damage.
I say stop spazzing out about safety at every single thing you see and live a little. Tiny little parkies like this one are just not strong enough to do any permanent damage. They're called park flyers for a reason, you know.
...So a park flyer is being flown...in a park.
I don't see the big deal. I could see safety issues if it was a big glow powered model, but come on. It's a tiny little parkie. You could thunk it into someone's head and you'd still be hard pressed to do any serious damage.
I say stop spazzing out about safety at every single thing you see and live a little. Tiny little parkies like this one are just not strong enough to do any permanent damage. They're called park flyers for a reason, you know.
Why yes, it is actually. I don't try to hide in a shell from everything that might give me a life threatening paper cut! The worst that little parkie could do is give me a tiny little cut and a stinging sensation. Even if it pops me in the forehead all I have to do is duck tape a napkin over the slice, and that's only to catch the blood, and I'd be fine. It's not a dangerous aircraft. My NexSTAR can easily lop fingers off, so I don't take chances with that, but a parkie like this? Blah. Doesn't scare me in the least.
As I said, everyone needs to stop spazzing out about safety at every single little thing they see. Oh, and I apologize if this is a shock to your system to find someone who isn't afraid of everything they see in the world. There are still a few of us who accept that not everything is safe, shrug, and do it anyways.
08-01-2011, 10:02 AM
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This chosen flying site flew me away
This chosen flying site flew me away
I completely understand your concern. Afterall, the little airplane could have been damaged or destroyed by a mis-thrown frisbee or an errant baseball...
08-01-2011, 10:20 AM
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What would the AMA think...................... about a parkflyer being flown in a park without spectators??
Seems to meet all the provisions of the Safety Code ........... so the opinion would be have fun and fly safe.......................
How can anybody find something wrong with that????????????????????
Brad
What would the AMA think...................... about a parkflyer being flown in a park without spectators??
Seems to meet all the provisions of the Safety Code ........... so the opinion would be have fun and fly safe.......................
How can anybody find something wrong with that????????????????????
Brad
Regards
Frank
08-01-2011, 10:23 AM
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Well, the post was just for giggles anyway,, it is amazing how up in arms you guys always get here. talk about people needing to lighten up a little.
I will say this in closing though,
Now many cities and towns have "no r/c laws in the the parks" now and it's not to prevent people for doing stupid things,,, as noted there's no stopping that,,, it to protect themselves from Liability. If it's against the law then the city can't be perceived as "letting it go on" even though obviously they don't have police positioned 24/7 to prevent it.
carry on
I will say this in closing though,
Now many cities and towns have "no r/c laws in the the parks" now and it's not to prevent people for doing stupid things,,, as noted there's no stopping that,,, it to protect themselves from Liability. If it's against the law then the city can't be perceived as "letting it go on" even though obviously they don't have police positioned 24/7 to prevent it.
carry on
08-01-2011, 10:35 AM
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Well, the post was just for giggles anyway,,
Well, the post was just for giggles anyway,,
Slack.
08-01-2011, 10:43 AM
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I'll secong this opinion.
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This thread is just another opportunity to grouse about the AMA.
This thread is just another opportunity to grouse about the AMA.
Which makes me wonder
why some folks(above) were given the opportunity here to say something positive about AMA,
yet DIDN'T.
Instead,
when given the opportunity to say how great they think AMA is for doing/not-doing something about the subject,
they whine that folks are not saying anything nice about ama.
Well,
maybe thats cause THEY didnt answer the question on what THEY THINK
(assuming they think positive things about AMA)
08-01-2011, 10:58 AM
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well, actually its an opportunity for folks to commend the AMA on what they are doing/not-doing about it too.
Which makes me wonder
why some folks(above) were given the opportunity here to say something positive about AMA,
yet DIDN'T.
Instead,
when given the opportunity to say how great they think AMA is for doing/not-doing something about the subject,
they whine that folks are not saying anything nice about ama.
Well,
maybe thats cause THEY didnt answer the question on what THEY THINK
(assuming they think positive things about AMA)
ORIGINAL: pkoury
I'll secong this opinion.
ORIGINAL: Red Scholefield
This thread is just another opportunity to grouse about the AMA.
This thread is just another opportunity to grouse about the AMA.
Which makes me wonder
why some folks(above) were given the opportunity here to say something positive about AMA,
yet DIDN'T.
Instead,
when given the opportunity to say how great they think AMA is for doing/not-doing something about the subject,
they whine that folks are not saying anything nice about ama.
Well,
maybe thats cause THEY didnt answer the question on what THEY THINK
(assuming they think positive things about AMA)
We now all have headaches!
08-01-2011, 11:16 AM
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We now all have headaches!
We now all have headaches!
Later...
08-01-2011, 01:36 PM
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kid,
did you perchance have anything to do with the subject script displayed here?
http://w3.uwyo.edu/~jimkirk/guidance.html
just wondering.
did you perchance have anything to do with the subject script displayed here?
http://w3.uwyo.edu/~jimkirk/guidance.html
just wondering.
08-01-2011, 04:06 PM
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[quote]ORIGINAL: scale only 4 me
Well, the post was just for giggles anyway,, it is amazing how up in arms you guys always get here. talk about people needing to lighten up a little.
I have a headache and dont see any Bud girls.
08-01-2011, 04:59 PM
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Holy screwed up the quote feature Batman,,
but seriously
Ever see the ''Bud Man''? what kinda girls could he get anyway?
Holy screwed up the quote feature Batman,,
but seriously
Ever see the ''Bud Man''? what kinda girls could he get anyway?