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Old 03-28-2012, 08:33 PM
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So what happens to the hobby now ?

http://www.naturalnews.com/034919_sp...veillance.html
So does this mean I can fly my Quad with a GoPro and start making money without fear of cops showing up? [:-]
Actually, it means you will have to have your sUAS certified to meet FAA standards and you will have to undergo FAA certification training to fly it. Then, you can fly your whatever for the cops and get them to pay you.
no I aint wantin to fly for the cops.... [:-]
they have there own crap
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So what happens to the hobby now ?

http://www.naturalnews.com/034919_sp...veillance.html
So does this mean I can fly my Quad with a GoPro and start making money without fear of cops showing up? [:-]
Actually, it means you will have to have your sUAS certified to meet FAA standards and you will have to undergo FAA certification training to fly it. Then, you can fly your whatever for the cops and get them to pay you.
no I aint wantin to fly for the cops.... [:-]
they have there own crap
Well, you could fly it for the realtors,but you would need armor plating. If you flew it for the cops, you could carry a 30mm Vulcan cannon and shoot back.


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LOL, that's awesome John..
Now if I could fly a quad and make money with it that would be cool!
but I'm not sure what to think if its legal or not...
some say it is and some say it is not legal to do????
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Old 03-29-2012, 08:15 AM
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So what happens to the hobby now ?

http://www.naturalnews.com/034919_sp...veillance.html
So does this mean I can fly my Quad with a GoPro and start making money without fear of cops showing up? [:-]
Actually, it means you will have to have your sUAS certified to meet FAA standards and you will have to undergo FAA certification training to fly it. Then, you can fly your whatever for the cops and get them to pay you.
no I aint wantin to fly for the cops.... [:-]
they have there own crap
Well, you could fly it for the realtors,but you would need armor plating. If you flew it for the cops, you could carry a 30mm Vulcan cannon and shoot back.


Anyone know where to get a Used ful scale A-10 and some big big servos?
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LOL, that's awesome John..
Now if I could fly a quad and make money with it that would be cool!
but I'm not sure what to think if its legal or not...
some say it is and some say it is not legal to do????
[:-]
If you want to make money, you will have to fly by the FAAsUAS rules, whenever they come out. If you want to have fun, you will have to fly by the FAA/AMA model airplane rules, whenever they come out. Either way you can be legal, but these seem to be the only choices for the future, whenever that happens. Right now, the safest and apparently only option is to fly by the existing AMA rules.


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Old 04-04-2012, 03:51 PM
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sUAS NPRM Release Date Slips Again…

According to a recent update on DOT’s Rulemaking Webpage the projected publication date for the small Unmanned Aircraft Systems (sUAS) Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) has been pushed back to July 2012. Though this has not yet been confirmed by the FAA Unmanned Aircraft Program Office (UAPO), sources close to the office say that the rule still resides at the Office of the Secretary of Transportation (OST) and at this point it’s anybody’s guess as to when the NPRM will be published. My guess is that recent provisions in the FAA reauthorization bill in regards to the commercial and public use of UAS, as well as model aircraft, have created the need to revisit several portions of the proposed rule.

Though the delay in the release of the NPRM is unfortunate, the advent of the sUAS rule is inevitable. Check back often for the latest news and updates on the sUAS rulemaking process.

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Oh no, here we go again. The wait never ends
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Things involved with government move at a snails pace.
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Things involved with government move at a snails pace.
So true. Although I, personally am not concerned about the sUAS rules as I don't expect them to affect me. I intend to fly by the AMA rules and so I am waiting for them to be published and acknowledged by the FAA.

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I think the AMA is going to bat for the DIYDrones folks too:

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The Federal Aviation Administration's pending notice of proposed rulemaking (NPRM) on unmanned aviation has been postponed yet again, this time to July, according to federal sources. AMA will in all likelihood oppose any federal regulations on aeromodeling, even if outside of AMA, a "community-based organization" that Congress has protected from such restrictions in the February FAA Reauthorization bill. Keep up to speed on this critical and complex subject by following Rich Hanson's government relations blog.
Go now, sin no more, and have fun with your quad copter and video downlink. Looks like we'll be all set.

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Old 04-05-2012, 06:49 AM
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AMA will in all likelihood oppose any federal regulations on aeromodeling, even if outside of AMA, a "community-based organization" that Congress has protected from such restrictions in the February FAA Reauthorization bill.
LOL

What he is doing there
is to declare AMA to be a congress protected CBO exempt from the regs they are fighting,
and makes no attempt to recognize that other organizations based on community
even exist as to get PL112-95 protections as well

"even if outside of AMA, a "community-based organization" that Congress has protected"
pfft

Its an odd way to 'oppose' the regulations
that AMA has spent 1000s of manhours with Sizemore in exercising an option within those regs
(FAA Alt Standards exclusion to FAA regs)

Guess we are not opposed to THAT reg so much
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The FAA is one thing. The future problem is Homeland security. If those HS boys start to look at our hobby, we will have real problems.

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The FAA is one thing. The future problem is Homeland security. If those HS boys start to look at our hobby, we will have real problems.

What makes you think they haven’t already??

Hopefully they will never be convinced that hobbyists are terrorists...but I guess if people keep making the case I guess anything is possible
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The future problem is Homeland security. If those HS boys start to look at our hobby
How soon folks forget
just who the other folks on the sUAS ARC were

Bruce Tarbert, Federal Aviation Administration
Ted Wierzbanowski, AeroVironment, Inc
Ellis Chernoff, Air Line Pilots Association
Patrick Egan, Remote Control Aerial Photography Association
Mike Fagan, Association of Unmanned Vehicle Systems International
Carrie Haase, Auora Flight Sciences
Rob Hackman, Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association
Richard Hanson, Academy of Model Aeronautics
Andrew Lacher, The MITRE Corporation
Fred Marks, FMA
Douglas Marshall, University of North Dakota
Paul McDuffe, Boeing - Insitu
Tad McGeer, Aerovel Corporation
Mike O’Shea, Department of Justice
Andrew Roberts, National Aeronautics and Space Administration
Don Shinnamon, International Association of Chiefs of Police
Dan Schultz, ASTM International
LTC Wade Wheeler, Department of Defense Policy Board for Federal Aviation
Ardyth Williams, Federal Aviation Administration
David York, Helicopter Association International

Given how a terrorist was arrested for trying to add bombs to models,
I for one REALLY HOPE the dhs IS already (and has been for a while) aware of the hazards of terrorists using models. I hope them Gmen are doing their job and keeping us safe. Of course, we can celebrate that when the purpose of operation is other than hobby/recreation then that craft is no longer a model... so no actual models can be operated for the non-recreational bombing of people... that thar is a Civil UAV not a hobby model
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The future problem is Homeland security. If those HS boys start to look at our hobby
How soon folks forget
just who the other folks on the sUAS ARC were

Bruce Tarbert, Federal Aviation Administration
Ted Wierzbanowski, AeroVironment, Inc
Ellis Chernoff, Air Line Pilots Association
Patrick Egan, Remote Control Aerial Photography Association
Mike Fagan, Association of Unmanned Vehicle Systems International
Carrie Haase, Auora Flight Sciences
Rob Hackman, Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association
Richard Hanson, Academy of Model Aeronautics
Andrew Lacher, The MITRE Corporation
Fred Marks, FMA
Douglas Marshall, University of North Dakota
Paul McDuffe, Boeing - Insitu
Tad McGeer, Aerovel Corporation
Mike O’Shea, Department of Justice
Andrew Roberts, National Aeronautics and Space Administration
Don Shinnamon, International Association of Chiefs of Police
Dan Schultz, ASTM International
LTC Wade Wheeler, Department of Defense Policy Board for Federal Aviation
Ardyth Williams, Federal Aviation Administration
David York, Helicopter Association International

Given how a terrorist was arrested for trying to add bombs to models,
I for one REALLY HOPE the dhs IS already (and has been for a while) aware of the hazards of terrorists using models. I hope them Gmen are doing their job and keeping us safe. Of course, we can celebrate that when the purpose of operation is other than hobby/recreation then that craft is no longer a model... so no actual models can be operated for the non-recreational bombing of people... that thar is a Civil UAV not a hobby model
Hey Poxy: If you remember correctly The Mad Islamic Boomer from Mass. Was aided and abraded by the FBI. They glorified his
IED Detonator making, suggested he use C4 instead of Grenades, acquired the fake C4 for him, & Financed the Model Jet for him.
The Government did more than he did.
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Wouldnt that lead you to believe the government is already well aware of the possibility to use sUAS as weapons?
Not to mention the bunches of sUAS being developed for DoD explicitly AS weapons for our team.

So I just dont consider
Hope The Gov Dont Find Out /Notice sUAS Dangers
as valid.

I hope they DO know how dangerous sUAS can be, and protect us.
And it seems they already are.
They managed to protect us, preventing the attack, WITHOUT grounding all toy airplanes,
and the senate voted UNANIMOUSLY (without letter campaign) to exclude toy airplanes from FAA regulation.
The gov knows sUAS are a potential weapon, and they unanimously protected us toy airplanes
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