bradpaul

Yeah that would be bad but not as bad as the GOM too set in his ways and still flying 72mhz who loses control of his glow Goldberg Eagle and crashes into a bus load of kindergarden kids killing all.

Your turn now to make up a ridiculous hypothetical accident.

toolmaker7341

This guy must be on the govenment payroll

SrTelemaster150

Why do we need droves in a National Park anyway?

The statement above illustrates why it might be in the public's best interests to keep them out.

JohnShe

When I go to a national park, I go for the nature or the history. To me drones only interfere with my intent and annoy me. But I do believe that the current batch of idiots are causing more misery than they are worth.

JohnShe

Worse that that, I am a patriotic citizen who supports our government. I also join in with others who protest government screw-ups.

JohnShe

Nah, mine was funnier anyway. I do think that you completely missed my point.

Bolshoi

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You guys catch this article on the wall st journal:

http://m.us.wsj.com/articles/SB10001...?mg=reno64-wsj

Sport_Pilot

We never had an ideal democracy, nor anything close. You don't want an ideal democracy! It results in rule by the majority, minorities be damned! No one has had one since ancient Greece.

We had a republic, but now pretty close to, I don't know, rule by the lobbyist perhaps.

toolmaker7341

So am I BUT the current administration hasn't been more crooked since Nixon

Airplanes400

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It's a good thing the judge threw out the FAA drone lawsuit and stated, "To accept the FAA‘s interpretive argument would lead to a conclusion that those definitions include as an aircraft all types of devices/contrivances intended for, or used for, flight in the air. The extension of that conclusion would then result in the risible argument that a flight in the air of, e.g., a paper aircraft, or a toy balsa wood glider, could subject the ‘operator’ to the regulatory provisions of FAA regulations."

Can you imagine the FAA & FBI showing up at your door to arrest you because your 8 year old son didn't have flight clearance to fly his rubber-band powered toy airplane in the backyard!???

By the wacky logic the FAA is applying to the current rules, they could extend the "rules" at-will to harrass anyone who thorws a paper plane, a paper ball, or a rubber-band powered plane by calling it a "drone" YIKES !!!
Then, spit balls might become "drones" as well. Even worse, be classified as "missiles."

SrTelemaster150

Imagine going to Yellowstone, firing up your gas powered giant scale warbirds & making a few flights.

OldRookie

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Agreed 100%

It is bad enough that we have to put up with these noisy boring flying machines at the flying field, but they are part of our hobby, and accepted there.
The last thing I want to see or hear on my vacation to a National park is one of these drones hovering in the middle of a perfect view, and of course accompanied by the annoying sound that disturbs the tranquility of the scene.
Lets keep these things at the flying field, and not have them serve as an annoyance to the general public. We should be doing this out of respect for other people, without having a law that bans their use in a National park.

Greg

rgburrill

My shotgun isn't Pleae bring your drones - I need target practice.

SrTelemaster150

THAT will land you in jail as it should.

littlecrankshaf

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Got a point there...not because of any safety issue but for a number of other reasons I agree. I enjoy model airplanes very much but would not want them there either.

SrTelemaster150

Fact is, drones or any form of R/C anything have no place in National Parks.

That us what the ban should prohibit. Then there would not be the ambiguity.

littlecrankshaf

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Maybe I should say there should be exceptions and probably a time and place everything...just generally speaking before.

Jim Thomerson

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0509110053.htm

This is a report on a study of effects of aircraft noise on various kinds of national park visitors.
Wonder if this has anything to do with it.

on_your_six

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You guys should visit a TRACON facility... (Terminal Radar Area Control) . It is a difficult task to control all the various aircraft currently flying and keep them separate and on course. Everyone with a nickle wants to fly. With the advent of such inexpensive RC aircraft (FPV and autonomous) , it has the potential to swamp the system meant to keep all of us safe. Thinking changed the day a flock of geese decided to down a passenger jet in the Hudson. Before that event, it was not thought possible for such small objects to down a large jet.

Every package delivery company on the planet wants to reduce their final mile cost. Who is going to control all the street and micro-airway delivery paths. Do you want Amazon telling you that only they can do this. When this capability is available, all RC aircraft will affect this public service. All objects capable of flight fit into this maze as a piece of the puzzle. We need to cooperate and follow the design so that all can operate simultaneously. When one goes rogue, and harms someone or something in the "system", they should pay for the damages caused (automobile tickets are the norm). As times change, so do the rules and regulations necessary to provide the freedom for as many as possible.

The FAA has a considerable task... provide fairness and maximum coverage and usage for all. Even Stevie Wonder can see that the old rules are overtaken by events proceeding.

Sport_Pilot

The system doesn't have to be so complex. Aviation technology leaders long ago proposed systems that would use ground radar with uplinks to the airplane and airplane down links to data centers on the ground. Now there is GPS that can be used. Burt Rutan proposed a heads up display with a highway in the sky type graphics and it would track all other traffic and reroute the "highway" to avoid traffic. But of course the FAA might have to lay off controllers as their would be less of them, so of course the FAA doesn't like that.

on_your_six

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I also think that cameras should be banned from National Parks... If I cannot mount my camera on a quad and take pictures... it is really the cameras that are causing the problems. (sarcasm noted for those without a functioning S detector)

JohnShe

I take my NIKON everywhere, the National parks are a great place to capture beauty permanently.

I do think that model aviation is an enjoyable activity. It has occurred to me that all parks authorities on the Federal, State and local levels should encourage safe and enjoyable, for all parties, model aviation. They should set aside suitable areas for flying and establish and enforce suitable rules for operation. it should be possible to find ways to responsibly photograph from the air without endangering or annoying people. Oh wait, that's what the FAA is trying to do isn't it?

mike1974

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"As a general rule, the interests of the general public are decided at the polls. The elected representatives attempt to carry this out through the enactment of laws creating agencies to carry out those laws. When an agency writes new regulations, these draft documents go through public review to ensure that the interests of the general public are carried out. it would appear that you might be helped by a remedial civics course. You are being skeptical of your own decisions made at the polls. Definitely a sign of flawed reasoning."

I will agree with this as soon as "The Government" puts in place term limits, ends lobbying, makes corporate contributions illegal and basically levels the playing field for all who are running for office

JohnShe

Gonna take a while due to partisan bickering. But, to a degree some good ideas there.

combatpigg

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I remember camping in the Yosemite valley as a kid and even back then it was stupifying how many folks couldn't leave their TV sets at home. The park should be a place where people can "get away from it all" and spend a weekend exploring all of the natural sights with as little interference from the spoils of modern man as much as possible.
What would possess someone to bring his toy plane into this park and then fly it with 1000s of unsuspecting park goers roaming around everywhere..?
You can buy post cards and posters that show every possible view of the park that you can imagine, so there is no justifiable reason for the public to bring RC guided flying cameras into this park.
Go play somewhere else and give this park your full respect..