Another "Drone" incident in the news... , mostlikely non AMA member
08-31-2014, 09:31 AM
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Now that's funny.., as I have been a crane operator, repaired cranes and moved cranes for a living. And I can tell you that some little model flitting around is about like a fly nesr that elephant in yor neighbors yard. You are a funny person to me .
08-31-2014, 09:50 AM
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You must not have done any serious lifts. The last thing you need is any unnecessary distraction with a couple of tons swinging under that boom.
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08-31-2014, 11:20 AM
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Now, I have a question for you. I pointed out that flying in a remote location, where you have permission, meets AMA and FAA guidelines and you throw a fit. Then you tell me that it is OK to fly where you are not wanted. Are you losing it? I am beginning to think that no matter how your tinfoil cap fits, it ain't helping you. You either need more tinfoil or specialized help.
08-31-2014, 11:31 AM
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I bet those foreigners are shaking in their boots LOL... I think you and I agree about preserving the sanctity of natural settings such as Yellowstone...I would be proponent of making a no-fly zone for full scale in a manner that would prevent even seeing or hearing them while enjoying the natural wonders...but with that being said, education is the key...do not particularly wish so-called violators severe penalties because of their ignorance due to lack of notice...but after being duly educated the penalties should go up proportionally.
With all of the incidents this year no one should be caught off guard flying these things.
08-31-2014, 11:38 AM
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You have never lifted a two ton piece of duct work in between two existing structures have you? watched a lift like that once it took a lot of careful attention by the lift director the operator the load handlers on the ground and the steel workers on the structures. Somebody could have been killed easily, not to mention thousands of dollars worth of damage. Interference of any kind is not welcome.
Now, I have a question for you. I pointed out that flying in a remote location, where you have permission, meets AMA and FAA guidelines and you throw a fit. Then you tell me that it is OK to fly where you are not wanted. Are you losing it? I am beginning to think that no matter how your tinfoil cap fits, it ain't helping you. You either need more tinfoil or specialized help.
Now, I have a question for you. I pointed out that flying in a remote location, where you have permission, meets AMA and FAA guidelines and you throw a fit. Then you tell me that it is OK to fly where you are not wanted. Are you losing it? I am beginning to think that no matter how your tinfoil cap fits, it ain't helping you. You either need more tinfoil or specialized help.
Oh as far as crane the crane lifts...the two ton HVAC equipment lift would have been child's play compared to the work I've done...but at least you have a produced base line for your ever ignorant subjectivty...not even worth discussing with you...
Just keep your finger over the 911 speed dial... I've learned enough now... I'll take the elephant any day LOL
08-31-2014, 11:41 AM
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Now, I have a question for you. I pointed out that flying in a remote location, where you have permission, meets AMA and FAA guidelines and you throw a fit. Then you tell me that it is OK to fly where you are not wanted. Are you losing it? I am beginning to think that no matter how your tinfoil cap fits, it ain't helping you. You either need more tinfoil or specialized help.
08-31-2014, 11:42 AM
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I understand. And that is commendable...I've had similar instances but refrained from flying my model in the public area as a simple consideration of those that were there for reason other than just to see me show off my little toy.
08-31-2014, 12:09 PM
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John , John, I realize you are having fun but you are making a fool of yourself with the continuing statements that flying a turbine jet or a model over 55 lbs meets the AMA guidelines if flown in a remote location. Per AMA documents a turbine jet must always be flown by a pilot with a jet waiver. A model over 55 lbs must always have a Permit to Fly.
08-31-2014, 01:20 PM
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If you live in the United States, there are some hoops that you need to jump through to fly turbine-powered models. The AMA does provide liability protection for turbine pilots, but you must obtain a special waiver. To earn your waiver you basically need to prove that you are a competent pilot by performing a flight test in front of two waivered turbine pilots, one of whom is also an AMA contest director. All of your test flights leading up to the exam must be done on a buddy box.
Certainly not a catch 22.
Certainly not a catch 22.
08-31-2014, 04:12 PM
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Only at events, read the whole thing. Your interpretation creates a catch 22. If you don't have a turbine or over 55 waiver how ya gonna get one if you can't fly to earn qualification? Besides, if you have enough room to fly without endangering people, things or the NAS who is gonna catch you?
full-scale if you can't fly around solo to earn qualification?"
I hope you see how dumb that sounds.
08-31-2014, 04:22 PM
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I wasn't really sure what he was trying to say as it seemed so nonsensical... but when he never replied to clarify I figured he was just having a hard time word-smithing a comeback response that fits his erroneous assbackwards position.
08-31-2014, 05:15 PM
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You can fly anything you want anyway you want on priviate property if you have permission and enough room, Enough said.
If a tree falls in a forest and nobody is around for it to fall on, does it endanger anybody? Your koan for the day.
If a tree falls in a forest and nobody is around for it to fall on, does it endanger anybody? Your koan for the day.
08-31-2014, 05:20 PM
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If you live in the United States, there are some hoops that you need to jump through to fly turbine-powered models. The AMA does provide liability protection for turbine pilots, but you must obtain a special waiver. To earn your waiver you basically need to prove that you are a competent pilot by performing a flight test in front of two waivered turbine pilots, one of whom is also an AMA contest director. All of your test flights leading up to the exam must be done on a buddy box.
Certainly not a catch 22.
Certainly not a catch 22.
08-31-2014, 05:22 PM
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08-31-2014, 05:22 PM
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Well your homeowners will provide some liability coverage, maybe all of it if you don't kill anybody. Waivers only apply for AMA sanctioned events and club fields. There is plenty of leeway to learn to fly and to qualify, read the rules. But some people don't want to join the AMA this is a solution for them. Remember, the FAA is on a tight leash and cannot require anyone to join the AMA.
08-31-2014, 05:25 PM
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Nobody wants to see you little toy, not even your girlfriend.
08-31-2014, 06:12 PM
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I warned everyone when they let these damn foam airplanes in the hobby the park fliers it was the end of our wonderful hobby and it has came true now we have to answer to faa not our cbo ama
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08-31-2014, 06:23 PM
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Do you???
I used metaphor to try to show you what a stupid statement you made about obtaining a
turbine waiver.
You are just plain wrong about this, and several folks here have tried to educate you, but you stubbornly hang on to your fantasy.
You obviously enjoy looking foolish here-THAT is sad.
I used metaphor to try to show you what a stupid statement you made about obtaining a
turbine waiver.
You are just plain wrong about this, and several folks here have tried to educate you, but you stubbornly hang on to your fantasy.
You obviously enjoy looking foolish here-THAT is sad.