Another "Drone" incident in the news... , mostlikely non AMA member
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Fpv .drones ! If it does not look like a RC airplane then they are waisting the rest of our money .Waisting our money ? http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/ama-...0-000-fpv.html joe
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Nobody said they were charging a fee, there is a company doing uav and fpv training that is suposedly AMA certified. The AMA might not be getting any money but I don't see how this would come out of dues.
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So, if the AMA isn't getting any money that what did your statement, "I thought the FPV training was a money making venture" mean?
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I'm not a "drone" pilot myself, but implying this wouldn't have happened if the pilot was an AMA member isn't a guarantee that he/she would follow the rules and make good decisions. There are some pilots in my club that break the rules when almost nobody is around.
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What! Are you losing it completely? The AMA doesn't certify anything or anybody for any reason. I recall the posting that you are referring to. When I contacted the AMA about some spurious statements made by that company, the AMA contact assured me that they would ask them to remove any suggestion of AMA sponsorship or approval.
So, if the AMA isn't getting any money that what did your statement, "I thought the FPV training was a money making venture" mean?
So, if the AMA isn't getting any money that what did your statement, "I thought the FPV training was a money making venture" mean?
I was asking a question, I have no idea or I would not have that question mark at the end. If they are doing training, should they not get paid for it?
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[QUOTE=Sport_Pilot;11879200]I was asking a question, I have no idea or I would not have that question mark at the end. If they are doing training, should they not get paid for it?
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ARTICLE II
Purposes
Subject to the limitations set forth in the Academy of Model Aeronautics, Inc., Articles of Incorporation, the primary
object of the AMA is to promote and foster educational and scientific advancement in model aeronautics, to give
recognition to model leadership and to provide guidance and direction of national model aeronautic affairs by those
individuals who, through their accomplishments in the model field, have demonstrated their qualifications for such
responsibility. More particular purposes are listed below, but shall not be considered exclusive.
(a) To encourage the study and discussion of scientific problems and to disseminate scientific news and views.
(b) To organize and sponsor discussion conferences and the presentation of technical papers at such
conferences.
(c) To encourage through recognition, leadership in model aeronautics.
(d) To recognize leadership of unusual quality by the conferring of special honorary titles.
(e) To encourage joint discussion directed toward group agreement on development needs relating to model
aviation.
(f) To keep model leaders informed through the publication of scientific journals and news bulletins.
(g) To encourage the contribution of articles on the development of model aeronautics for the AMA publication.
(h) To associate interested organizations and individuals for group support of education and development needs
related to model aeronautics.
(i) To guide and direct national model activities to the end that model aeronautics may be advanced in the
United States in a manner that will best serve model aviation as a whole.
(j) To guide and assist in the acquisition and retention of flying sites for the further growth and development of
model aeronautics.
(k) To establish and maintain official regulations governing the conduct of model airplane records and contests
and issue sanctions for same.
(l) To direct the technical organization and conduct of national and international model contests held within the
United States and to act through the National Aeronautics Association as the aeromodeling representative in the
United States for the Federation Aeronautique Internationale.
(m) To license model aircraft and fliers thereof for competition.
(n) To promote recognition in the United States and abroad of all officially sanctioned competitions and records
which are conducted by AMA Contest Directors.
(o) To have as its guiding principle, Of, By, and For the Model Airplane Enthusiast. (p) To operate through the National Aeronautic Association in representing all activities of United States
Aeromodeling to the FAI, such operation to be in accordance with a written agreement between AMA and NAA.
Purposes
Subject to the limitations set forth in the Academy of Model Aeronautics, Inc., Articles of Incorporation, the primary
object of the AMA is to promote and foster educational and scientific advancement in model aeronautics, to give
recognition to model leadership and to provide guidance and direction of national model aeronautic affairs by those
individuals who, through their accomplishments in the model field, have demonstrated their qualifications for such
responsibility. More particular purposes are listed below, but shall not be considered exclusive.
(a) To encourage the study and discussion of scientific problems and to disseminate scientific news and views.
(b) To organize and sponsor discussion conferences and the presentation of technical papers at such
conferences.
(c) To encourage through recognition, leadership in model aeronautics.
(d) To recognize leadership of unusual quality by the conferring of special honorary titles.
(e) To encourage joint discussion directed toward group agreement on development needs relating to model
aviation.
(f) To keep model leaders informed through the publication of scientific journals and news bulletins.
(g) To encourage the contribution of articles on the development of model aeronautics for the AMA publication.
(h) To associate interested organizations and individuals for group support of education and development needs
related to model aeronautics.
(i) To guide and direct national model activities to the end that model aeronautics may be advanced in the
United States in a manner that will best serve model aviation as a whole.
(j) To guide and assist in the acquisition and retention of flying sites for the further growth and development of
model aeronautics.
(k) To establish and maintain official regulations governing the conduct of model airplane records and contests
and issue sanctions for same.
(l) To direct the technical organization and conduct of national and international model contests held within the
United States and to act through the National Aeronautics Association as the aeromodeling representative in the
United States for the Federation Aeronautique Internationale.
(m) To license model aircraft and fliers thereof for competition.
(n) To promote recognition in the United States and abroad of all officially sanctioned competitions and records
which are conducted by AMA Contest Directors.
(o) To have as its guiding principle, Of, By, and For the Model Airplane Enthusiast. (p) To operate through the National Aeronautic Association in representing all activities of United States
Aeromodeling to the FAI, such operation to be in accordance with a written agreement between AMA and NAA.
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Just posing a question. But can an enthusiast be commercial as well? IMO the AMA is stepping out of bounds but the bylaws do not say specifically that their is no commercial activities. But to say for model enthusiasts seems to imply that commercial activities would only be supported as an extension of enthusiasts that also fly models for commercial purposes. And IMO FPV of any form including the multi rotors are model airplanes. I don't like them but those that do should be able to participate in AMA activities.
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Just posing a question. But can an enthusiast be commercial as well? IMO the AMA is stepping out of bounds but the bylaws do not say specifically that their is no commercial activities. But to say for model enthusiasts seems to imply that commercial activities would only be supported as an extension of enthusiasts that also fly models for commercial purposes. And IMO FPV of any form including the multi rotors are model airplanes. I don't like them but those that do should be able to participate in AMA activities.
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There is nothing I see in the BYLAWS that precludes offering services including education to non-recreational users.
(h) To associate interested organizations and individuals for group support of education and development needs
related to model aeronautics.
(i) To guide and direct national model activities to the end that model aeronautics may be advanced in the
United States in a manner that will best serve model aviation as a whole.
(h) To associate interested organizations and individuals for group support of education and development needs
related to model aeronautics.
(i) To guide and direct national model activities to the end that model aeronautics may be advanced in the
United States in a manner that will best serve model aviation as a whole.
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So the AMA is a non proffit Org so your tell me where they are getting 250,000 for this training http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/ama-...0-000-fpv.html Thats right ! Our dues ! joe
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Fpv .drones ! If it does not look like a RC airplane then they are waisting the rest of our money .Waisting our money ? http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/ama-...0-000-fpv.html joe
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This is from Supreme Court Justice Sotomayor.
If you think they are not serious about this you have another think coming.
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2014/09/12/...ead-of-drones/
Dan
If you think they are not serious about this you have another think coming.
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2014/09/12/...ead-of-drones/
Dan
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stupidity at the highest level, this is what will take away our flying privlediges.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/07/us/dro...t=hp_inthenews
This guy was flying a "drone" at Yellowstone and lost it in the largest spring that have at Yellowstone; that goes 200 feet down. He had the tenacity to go and ask a park official if he could try and retrieve it. If I was visiting Yellowstone and saw this, I would have confronted this dude, punked him out then try to educate him; that his actions is putting unnecessary bad spotlight on RC flying as a whole.
I'm pretty sure, he wanted to take a cool aerial video of the Spring and then post it on Youtube and say have everyone look at this cool aerial vid I took at Yellowstone, he just wants to see how many hits he gets.
This guy was flying a "drone" at Yellowstone and lost it in the largest spring that have at Yellowstone; that goes 200 feet down. He had the tenacity to go and ask a park official if he could try and retrieve it. If I was visiting Yellowstone and saw this, I would have confronted this dude, punked him out then try to educate him; that his actions is putting unnecessary bad spotlight on RC flying as a whole.
I'm pretty sure, he wanted to take a cool aerial video of the Spring and then post it on Youtube and say have everyone look at this cool aerial vid I took at Yellowstone, he just wants to see how many hits he gets.
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#272
The AMA is made up of people. If you do a deep search of all of the AMA documents you will find that many of them have no clue what is said in other documents that affect the one you're working from.
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Not sure why the hang-up with "line of sight" however the statement "operator of a radio-controlled model aircraft shall control it during the entire flight, maintaining visual contact..." seems pretty clear to me. At the time this was written the 550 buddy box rule had the PIC/spotter on the primary control which would be in compliance with the current FAA interpretation.
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1 For purposes of the visual line of sight requirement, “operator” means the person manipulating the model
aircraft’s controls.
aircraft’s controls.