Another Drone Pilot does it Again
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I read an interesting idea in the British press, yesterday.
Someone suggested that one-or-more "drones" might be used to fly above a football stadium, then drop some "white powder". The resulting panic would likely lead to numerous deaths.
The Welfare-Warfare State pretty much guarantees that every one of us will end up being prisoners in our own homes ... monitored, regulated ... just like domestic animals. The tragedy is that so many of us actively welcome our imprisonment.
Someone suggested that one-or-more "drones" might be used to fly above a football stadium, then drop some "white powder". The resulting panic would likely lead to numerous deaths.
The Welfare-Warfare State pretty much guarantees that every one of us will end up being prisoners in our own homes ... monitored, regulated ... just like domestic animals. The tragedy is that so many of us actively welcome our imprisonment.
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Useless debate, the FAA and the AMA DO NOT USE the term DRONE. The correct term is UAS (unmanned aircraft systems) or specifically to what we call model airplanes sUAS (the s is for small).
Within the world of UAS ans sUAS the FAA does distinguish by use that being either RECREATIONAL or COMMERCIAL. PL 110-95 added a definition to be excluded from further regulation and gave a firm definition of a model aircraft.
(c) MODEL AIRCRAFT DEFINED.—
In this section, the term ‘‘model
aircraft’’ means an unmanned aircraft that is—
(1) capable of sustained flight in the atmosphere;
(2) flown within visual line of sight of the person operating
the aircraft; and
(3) flown for hobby or recreational purposes.
So a quadcopter flying FPV per AMA Doc 550 is a model aircraft
and
a Senior Telemaster towing gliders for compensation is not a model aircraft.
Both by the standard dictionary definition are drones.
Are we having fun yet?????????????????
Within the world of UAS ans sUAS the FAA does distinguish by use that being either RECREATIONAL or COMMERCIAL. PL 110-95 added a definition to be excluded from further regulation and gave a firm definition of a model aircraft.
(c) MODEL AIRCRAFT DEFINED.—
In this section, the term ‘‘model
aircraft’’ means an unmanned aircraft that is—
(1) capable of sustained flight in the atmosphere;
(2) flown within visual line of sight of the person operating
the aircraft; and
(3) flown for hobby or recreational purposes.
So a quadcopter flying FPV per AMA Doc 550 is a model aircraft
and
a Senior Telemaster towing gliders for compensation is not a model aircraft.
Both by the standard dictionary definition are drones.
Are we having fun yet?????????????????
Frank
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I use them for my desktop calendar. The EAA sometimes has a nice calendar also.
http://www.eaa.org/en/eaa/aviation-e...ktop-wallpaper
Frank
http://www.eaa.org/en/eaa/aviation-e...ktop-wallpaper
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Over one million drones
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and therein lies our problem.
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This is an excellent point. The term "drone" is defined in the eye of the beholder, as it is not defined in black law, or FAA/AMA policy. Some modelers who fly FPV like to refer to their toys as drones, while some do not. Many authors in online and print articles use this term heavily, while others refuse to do so.
Call your aircraft whatever you want. Just be safe, and try not to hurt or kill anyone.
Call your aircraft whatever you want. Just be safe, and try not to hurt or kill anyone.
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My Feedback: (1)
The problem is that this is true of everything, but the general public doesn't care as long as it's loss doesn't affect them. You can't take away motorcycles because it affects too many people, even though more innocent (meaning not involved in the activity) people are killed by them in a single week than have ever been killed by a civilian operated "drone."
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"Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., said the "reckless operation of drones, whether near airports or anywhere else, is a serious threat to public safety."
"We shouldn't wait for a major disaster to take action to protect the airspace," she told the AP"
Frank
"We shouldn't wait for a major disaster to take action to protect the airspace," she told the AP"
Frank
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"We shouldn't wait for a major disaster to take action to protect the airspace," she told the AP"
#260
God forbid that woman actually shows up to a flying site..........She would have a much better understanding of the safety involved.......
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Nothing new here standard CYA.
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I don't disagree with all of that but I also don't wish to be around the individual that causes the first incident when it does occur. Would anyone care to lay odds that there won't be an incident with an airliner?
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Amusing interpretation at best. Tell me, how would you react if a republican had said that? Here is an interesting example of the way things could be done.
In order to buy a package of Pseudoephedrine ( a very effective antihistamine), I need to show my driver's license or other government issued ID, and then sign for it. Also, I am allowed to purchase only one package. This is supposed to prevent bulk purchases for use in making methamphetamine. There is a weakness however, I can just go down the street to another pharmacy and purchase another package. if i wanted to set up a meth lab, I could go to to every nearby pharmacy every day and buy enough to stock the lab.
I suppose, that governments, federal, sate, or local could require that hobby shops and toy stores require drone purchasers to show an ID, read a safety brochure and sign-off on having reads it. It would not do a whole lot of good, since most jerks will just ignore it, but at least it will make some people think and slightly reduce the number of unsafe incidents. Then the jerks can be punished more severely.
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In order to buy a package of Pseudoephedrine ( a very effective antihistamine), I need to show my driver's license or other government issued ID, and then sign for it. Also, I am allowed to purchase only one package. This is supposed to prevent bulk purchases for use in making methamphetamine. There is a weakness however, I can just go down the street to another pharmacy and purchase another package. if i wanted to set up a meth lab, I could go to to every nearby pharmacy every day and buy enough to stock the lab.
I suppose, that governments, federal, sate, or local could require that hobby shops and toy stores require drone purchasers to show an ID, read a safety brochure and sign-off on having reads it. It would not do a whole lot of good, since most jerks will just ignore it, but at least it will make some people think and slightly reduce the number of unsafe incidents. Then the jerks can be punished more severely.
I suppose, that governments, federal, sate, or local could require that hobby shops and toy stores require drone purchasers to show an ID, read a safety brochure and sign-off on having reads it. It would not do a whole lot of good, since most jerks will just ignore it, but at least it will make some people think and slightly reduce the number of unsafe incidents. Then the jerks can be punished more severely.
I posted this earlier:
Causes of Fatal Accidents by Decade (percentage)
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[TD="width: 550, align: left"][TABLE="class: cms_table, width: 554"]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 208, align: center"]Cause[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]1950s[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]1960s[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]1970s[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]1980s[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 47, align: center"]1990s[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]2000s[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 45, align: center"]All[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_style3, width: 208, align: center"]Total Pilot Error[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style3, align: center"]58[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style3, align: center"]63[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style3, align: center"]44[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style3, align: center"]57[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style3, align: center"]55[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style3, align: center"]57[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style77, align: center"]53[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, align: center"]Pilot Error[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, align: center"]42[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, align: center"]36[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, align: center"]25[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, align: center"]29[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, align: center"]29[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, align: center"]34[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style77, align: center"]32[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 208, align: center"]Pilot Error (weather related)[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]10[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]18[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]14[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]16[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 47, align: center"]21[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]18[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style77, width: 45, align: center"]16[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 208, align: center"]Pilot Error (mechanical related)[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]6[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]9[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 47, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style77, width: 45, align: center"]5[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 208, align: center"]Other Human Error[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]9[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 47, align: center"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]6[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style77, width: 45, align: center"]6[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 208, align: center"]Weather[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]16[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]9[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]14[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]14[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 47, align: center"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]6[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style77, width: 45, align: center"]12[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 208, align: center"]Mechanical Failure[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]21[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]19[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]20[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]21[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 47, align: center"]18[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]22[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style77, width: 45, align: center"]20[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 208, align: center"]Sabotage[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 47, align: center"]10[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]9[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style77, width: 45, align: center"]8[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 208, align: center"]Other Cause[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 47, align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style77, width: 45, align: center"]1[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Looks like if we want to reduce aircraft accidents then better pilot training and regulation is needed.
Now what about the difference between commercial and general aviation?
Which type of flying is safer
[TABLE="width: 614, align: center"][TR]
[TD="width: 614, align: left"][TABLE="width: 614"]
[TR]
[TD="class: style37, width: 365, align: center"]Type of Flight[/TD]
[TD="class: style37, width: 223, align: center"]Fatalities per million flight hours[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: style35, width: 365, align: center"]Airliner (Scheduled and nonscheduled Part 121)[/TD]
[TD="class: style35, width: 223, align: center"]4.03[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: style35, width: 365, align: center"]Commuter Airline (Scheduled Part 135)[/TD]
[TD="class: style35, width: 223, align: center"]10.74[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: style35, width: 365, align: center"]Commuter Plane (Nonscheduled Part 135 - Air taxi on demand)[/TD]
[TD="class: style35, width: 223, align: center"]12.24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: style35, width: 365, align: center"]General Aviation (Private Part 91)[/TD]
[TD="class: style35, width: 223, align: center"]22.43[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Sources: NTSB Accidents and Accident Rates by NTSB Classification 1998-2007
So what about banning UAS, sUAS within 5 miles of an airport if safety is the overriding concern? Well hundreds of AMA club fields would have to close including the AMA NATIONAL FLYING SITE IN MUNCIE!
Complete safety is impossible as long as humans are involved.
As a closing thought the article referred to over 1 million drones in use, what about after this Christmas? 2 million? 3 million? The FAA has lost control.
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By far the biggest risk in flying IS THE PILOT.
So what about banning UAS, sUAS within 5 miles of an airport if safety is the overriding concern? Well hundreds of AMA club fields would have to close including the AMA NATIONAL FLYING SITE IN MUNCIE!
Complete safety is impossible as long as humans are involved.
As a closing thought the article referred to over 1 million drones in use, what about after this Christmas? 2 million? 3 million? The FAA has lost control.
So what about banning UAS, sUAS within 5 miles of an airport if safety is the overriding concern? Well hundreds of AMA club fields would have to close including the AMA NATIONAL FLYING SITE IN MUNCIE!
Complete safety is impossible as long as humans are involved.
As a closing thought the article referred to over 1 million drones in use, what about after this Christmas? 2 million? 3 million? The FAA has lost control.
Frank
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Amusing interpretation at best. Tell me, how would you react if a republican had said that? Here is an interesting example of the way things could be done.
In order to buy a package of Pseudoephedrine ( a very effective antihistamine), I need to show my driver's license or other government issued ID, and then sign for it. Also, I am allowed to purchase only one package. This is supposed to prevent bulk purchases for use in making methamphetamine. There is a weakness however, I can just go down the street to another pharmacy and purchase another package. if i wanted to set up a meth lab, I could go to to every nearby pharmacy every day and buy enough to stock the lab.
I suppose, that governments, federal, sate, or local could require that hobby shops and toy stores require drone purchasers to show an ID, read a safety brochure and sign-off on having reads it. It would not do a whole lot of good, since most jerks will just ignore it, but at least it will make some people think and slightly reduce the number of unsafe incidents. Then the jerks can be punished more severely.
In order to buy a package of Pseudoephedrine ( a very effective antihistamine), I need to show my driver's license or other government issued ID, and then sign for it. Also, I am allowed to purchase only one package. This is supposed to prevent bulk purchases for use in making methamphetamine. There is a weakness however, I can just go down the street to another pharmacy and purchase another package. if i wanted to set up a meth lab, I could go to to every nearby pharmacy every day and buy enough to stock the lab.
I suppose, that governments, federal, sate, or local could require that hobby shops and toy stores require drone purchasers to show an ID, read a safety brochure and sign-off on having reads it. It would not do a whole lot of good, since most jerks will just ignore it, but at least it will make some people think and slightly reduce the number of unsafe incidents. Then the jerks can be punished more severely.
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As a closing thought the article referred to over 1 million drones in use, what about after this Christmas? 2 million? 3 million? The FAA has lost control.
#269
I don't think we are ready for flying from point A to point B by autonomous computer flying, at least not yet.
http://hackaday.com/2014/01/12/auton...-of-your-hand/
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You mean a Republican would blame the Democrats or Obama? My reaction is the same a politician going on record to CYA. They can't help it it is how they are wired.
Sorta like buying a gun? Same old solution that never works.
I posted this earlier:
[TR]
[TD="width: 550, align: left"][TABLE="class: cms_table, width: 554"]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 208, align: center"]Cause[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]1950s[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]1960s[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]1970s[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]1980s[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 47, align: center"]1990s[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]2000s[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 45, align: center"]All[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_style3, width: 208, align: center"]Total Pilot Error[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style3, align: center"]58[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style3, align: center"]63[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style3, align: center"]44[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style3, align: center"]57[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style3, align: center"]55[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style3, align: center"]57[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style77, align: center"]53[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, align: center"]Pilot Error[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, align: center"]42[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, align: center"]36[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, align: center"]25[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, align: center"]29[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, align: center"]29[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, align: center"]34[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style77, align: center"]32[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 208, align: center"]Pilot Error (weather related)[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]10[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]18[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]14[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]16[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 47, align: center"]21[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]18[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style77, width: 45, align: center"]16[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 208, align: center"]Pilot Error (mechanical related)[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]6[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]9[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 47, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style77, width: 45, align: center"]5[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 208, align: center"]Other Human Error[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]9[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 47, align: center"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]6[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style77, width: 45, align: center"]6[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 208, align: center"]Weather[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]16[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]9[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]14[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]14[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 47, align: center"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]6[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style77, width: 45, align: center"]12[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 208, align: center"]Mechanical Failure[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]21[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]19[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]20[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]21[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 47, align: center"]18[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]22[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style77, width: 45, align: center"]20[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 208, align: center"]Sabotage[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 47, align: center"]10[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]9[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style77, width: 45, align: center"]8[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 208, align: center"]Other Cause[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 47, align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style77, width: 45, align: center"]1[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Looks like if we want to reduce aircraft accidents then better pilot training and regulation is needed.
Now what about the difference between commercial and general aviation?
[TR]
[TD="width: 614, align: left"][TABLE="width: 614"]
[TR]
[TD="class: style37, width: 365, align: center"]Type of Flight[/TD]
[TD="class: style37, width: 223, align: center"]Fatalities per million flight hours[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: style35, width: 365, align: center"]Airliner (Scheduled and nonscheduled Part 121)[/TD]
[TD="class: style35, width: 223, align: center"]4.03[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: style35, width: 365, align: center"]Commuter Airline (Scheduled Part 135)[/TD]
[TD="class: style35, width: 223, align: center"]10.74[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: style35, width: 365, align: center"]Commuter Plane (Nonscheduled Part 135 - Air taxi on demand)[/TD]
[TD="class: style35, width: 223, align: center"]12.24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: style35, width: 365, align: center"]General Aviation (Private Part 91)[/TD]
[TD="class: style35, width: 223, align: center"]22.43[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]By far the biggest risk in flying IS THE PILOT.
So what about banning UAS, sUAS within 5 miles of an airport if safety is the overriding concern? Well hundreds of AMA club fields would have to close including the AMA NATIONAL FLYING SITE IN MUNCIE!
Complete safety is impossible as long as humans are involved.
As a closing thought the article referred to over 1 million drones in use, what about after this Christmas? 2 million? 3 million? The FAA has lost control.
Sorta like buying a gun? Same old solution that never works.
I posted this earlier:
Causes of Fatal Accidents by Decade (percentage)
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[TD="width: 550, align: left"][TABLE="class: cms_table, width: 554"]
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[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 208, align: center"]Cause[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]1950s[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]1960s[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]1970s[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]1980s[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 47, align: center"]1990s[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]2000s[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 45, align: center"]All[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_style3, width: 208, align: center"]Total Pilot Error[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style3, align: center"]58[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style3, align: center"]63[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style3, align: center"]44[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style3, align: center"]57[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style3, align: center"]55[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style3, align: center"]57[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style77, align: center"]53[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, align: center"]Pilot Error[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, align: center"]42[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, align: center"]36[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, align: center"]25[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, align: center"]29[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, align: center"]29[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, align: center"]34[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style77, align: center"]32[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 208, align: center"]Pilot Error (weather related)[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]10[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]18[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]14[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]16[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 47, align: center"]21[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]18[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style77, width: 45, align: center"]16[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 208, align: center"]Pilot Error (mechanical related)[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]6[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]9[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 47, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style77, width: 45, align: center"]5[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 208, align: center"]Other Human Error[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]9[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 47, align: center"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]6[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style77, width: 45, align: center"]6[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 208, align: center"]Weather[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]16[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]9[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]14[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]14[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 47, align: center"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]6[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style77, width: 45, align: center"]12[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 208, align: center"]Mechanical Failure[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]21[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]19[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]20[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]21[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 47, align: center"]18[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]22[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style77, width: 45, align: center"]20[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 208, align: center"]Sabotage[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 47, align: center"]10[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]9[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style77, width: 45, align: center"]8[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 208, align: center"]Other Cause[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 47, align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style14, width: 44, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_style77, width: 45, align: center"]1[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Looks like if we want to reduce aircraft accidents then better pilot training and regulation is needed.
Now what about the difference between commercial and general aviation?
Which type of flying is safer
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[TD="width: 614, align: left"][TABLE="width: 614"]
[TR]
[TD="class: style37, width: 365, align: center"]Type of Flight[/TD]
[TD="class: style37, width: 223, align: center"]Fatalities per million flight hours[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: style35, width: 365, align: center"]Airliner (Scheduled and nonscheduled Part 121)[/TD]
[TD="class: style35, width: 223, align: center"]4.03[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: style35, width: 365, align: center"]Commuter Airline (Scheduled Part 135)[/TD]
[TD="class: style35, width: 223, align: center"]10.74[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: style35, width: 365, align: center"]Commuter Plane (Nonscheduled Part 135 - Air taxi on demand)[/TD]
[TD="class: style35, width: 223, align: center"]12.24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: style35, width: 365, align: center"]General Aviation (Private Part 91)[/TD]
[TD="class: style35, width: 223, align: center"]22.43[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Sources: NTSB Accidents and Accident Rates by NTSB Classification 1998-2007
So what about banning UAS, sUAS within 5 miles of an airport if safety is the overriding concern? Well hundreds of AMA club fields would have to close including the AMA NATIONAL FLYING SITE IN MUNCIE!
Complete safety is impossible as long as humans are involved.
As a closing thought the article referred to over 1 million drones in use, what about after this Christmas? 2 million? 3 million? The FAA has lost control.
So having a drone purchaser read a brochure would not count as a reasonable effort towards pilot training?
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That chart is really fascinating. Tell me, how many drones, of any type, were being flown by civilians for recreation or commercial purposes before the year 2000? I think I see a flaw in your reasoning.
So having a drone purchaser read a brochure would not count as a reasonable effort towards pilot training?
So having a drone purchaser read a brochure would not count as a reasonable effort towards pilot training?
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So, why would I ban drones when I am on record for supporting safe recreational use of drones?
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Also, nobody is banning drones within five miles of an airport, that has been proven wrong by several examples.