Another Drone Pilot does it Again
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You're right...they may actually have a sixth sense and can keep their little toy airplane out of trouble in ways we could never imagine. LOL
Look...people already supposedly read their AMA application...then sign it... I can tell you from genuine first hand experience the ignorance abounds the membership.These little tests and documents all you guys want to push amounts to just a bunch "feel good" BS...Just read a few more pages in this forum for the proof if you doubt me.
Look...people already supposedly read their AMA application...then sign it... I can tell you from genuine first hand experience the ignorance abounds the membership.These little tests and documents all you guys want to push amounts to just a bunch "feel good" BS...Just read a few more pages in this forum for the proof if you doubt me.
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I am not sure if you appreciate the limitations of manoeuvring a large aircraft quickly or sighting a small non moving object against a cluttered backdrop.
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[QUOTE: Look...people already supposedly read their AMA application...then sign it... I can tell you from genuine first hand experience the ignorance abounds the membership.These little tests and documents all you guys want to push amounts to just a bunch "feel good" BS.../QUOTE]
Not feel good BS at all. I would call it "A moment of truth", so that when someone that doesn't have an AMA membership says "I didn't know", they can have the paper saying they read the rules with their signature on the bottom thrown in their face as the cuffs are being applied.
Not feel good BS at all. I would call it "A moment of truth", so that when someone that doesn't have an AMA membership says "I didn't know", they can have the paper saying they read the rules with their signature on the bottom thrown in their face as the cuffs are being applied.
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[QUOTE=HoundDog;12030580] Originally Posted by HoundDog
Halleluiah Finally someone with some seance ... Now the problem is how to get Hobby King tower the LHS (Local Hobby Shop) to do some thing to assure that everyone takes the TEST and proves their knowledge Where, When & How these QUADS may be flown.
Hound dog, I apologize somehow I kind of got what you said and Hydro Junkie said mixed up as it was Hydro junkie that made the statement about a form being sent to the AMA/FAA by
the retailer and that is where I got the registration idea from.
Halleluiah Finally someone with some seance ... Now the problem is how to get Hobby King tower the LHS (Local Hobby Shop) to do some thing to assure that everyone takes the TEST and proves their knowledge Where, When & How these QUADS may be flown.
If you require the registration of quads you would have to do it for all rc craft. I don't think model registration is entirely a bad idea and at some point it may come to that but
it will have to be the FAA to set something like that up IMO.
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ira d:
Where do U see anything about "REGISTRATION" of TOY airplanes in this or any of my posts. I said people should have to take a computer "TEST" to prove they know the RULE and when, where & how to fly our R/C TOY's Including QUADS. PERIOD.
it will have to be the FAA to set something like that up IMO.
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ira d:
Where do U see anything about "REGISTRATION" of TOY airplanes in this or any of my posts. I said people should have to take a computer "TEST" to prove they know the RULE and when, where & how to fly our R/C TOY's Including QUADS. PERIOD.
Hound dog, I apologize somehow I kind of got what you said and Hydro Junkie said mixed up as it was Hydro junkie that made the statement about a form being sent to the AMA/FAA by
the retailer and that is where I got the registration idea from.
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I do appreciate the limitations of seeing a small object. But this was not a factor as they did see it and reported this. I appreciate the ability of a large airplane maneuvering less so. Obviously it is less maneuverable than the sUAV, but they can turn fairly quickly when not limited to smooth turns for passenger comfort.
There are a few examples in this thread, which one are you referring to specifically? I read the example in the first post and also the one at Dulles airport or was it another one you are referring to?
Neither of the examples I read state the distance the drone was first observed and neither of them say the pilots took no action. Did I miss something?
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Crank & Hydro: Crank glad to see ya back, been a while.
Both of U are correct but we as the informed and responsible R/C Flyers are the only ones that can save our Hobby/Sport from the DumBoos out there that, I am convinced don't even know that there are Rules for flying R/C Toys. I think that your LHS (Hobby Town) is doing the best for the Hobby/Sport and them selves by passing out the AMA "Know before U Fly" Literature is a BIG step in the right direction. Unfourtionatly, like Traffic laws and DMV Test only PROVE U ounce knew the Rules, Not that U will Follow them. That's up to the Individual and the Traffic laws provide Consequences for violations. But the Police and court systems don't punish the law abiding driver because of other traffic law offenders. So should make it clear to the FAA?NTSB, The News Medea, The Flying Public and everyone that if there are Idiots Flying R/C Toys Where,When or How that is contrary to the Rules they are the ones to be punished to the full extent of the law. Not every one in this great Hobby/Sport as a Whole.
Gota call the AMA today and get some of the Literature and take it personally to the LHS in this area. Think I'll get some for the LHS in PHX too.
Both of U are correct but we as the informed and responsible R/C Flyers are the only ones that can save our Hobby/Sport from the DumBoos out there that, I am convinced don't even know that there are Rules for flying R/C Toys. I think that your LHS (Hobby Town) is doing the best for the Hobby/Sport and them selves by passing out the AMA "Know before U Fly" Literature is a BIG step in the right direction. Unfourtionatly, like Traffic laws and DMV Test only PROVE U ounce knew the Rules, Not that U will Follow them. That's up to the Individual and the Traffic laws provide Consequences for violations. But the Police and court systems don't punish the law abiding driver because of other traffic law offenders. So should make it clear to the FAA?NTSB, The News Medea, The Flying Public and everyone that if there are Idiots Flying R/C Toys Where,When or How that is contrary to the Rules they are the ones to be punished to the full extent of the law. Not every one in this great Hobby/Sport as a Whole.
Gota call the AMA today and get some of the Literature and take it personally to the LHS in this area. Think I'll get some for the LHS in PHX too.
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this story has a shocking conclusion........
http://news.yahoo.com/ranger-uses-st...215856601.html
Wonder if he thinks the footage he shot was worth it?
Wonder if he thinks the footage he shot was worth it?
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Neither of the examples I read state the distance the drone was first observed and neither of them say the pilots took no action. Did I miss something?
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You're right...they may actually have a sixth sense and can keep their little toy airplane out of trouble in ways we could never imagine. LOL
Look...people already supposedly read their AMA application...then sign it... I can tell you from genuine first hand experience the ignorance abounds the membership.These little tests and documents all you guys want to push amounts to just a bunch "feel good" BS...Just read a few more pages in this forum for the proof if you doubt me.
Look...people already supposedly read their AMA application...then sign it... I can tell you from genuine first hand experience the ignorance abounds the membership.These little tests and documents all you guys want to push amounts to just a bunch "feel good" BS...Just read a few more pages in this forum for the proof if you doubt me.
The sane approach would be that page one of the instructions that come with all flying toys has a brief run down on the safe operation of that toy and any applicable laws regarding it's use . That way , just the fact of owning the toy means that a set of safe operating guidelines came with it , and it is the fault of no one but the toy's operator if the guideline isn't read or adhered to .
Step one = RTFM
Step two = use it safely and have fun
Step 3 = Ignorance of the law is not now and has never been a successful defense ......
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Through our taxes our govt. pays for infrastructure , has for years and not likely to change anytime soon ....
I didn't bring them into it in the first place , just so ya know .....
When folks go mentioning of tests and signed documents to be kept (NOT ! my suggestion , that's for sure) Who , exactly , DO you think would be keeping these records ? I'd have to read back but I'm almost certain there was mention of the FAA administering such program by at least one of it's proponents ? And FAA = govt. to me , at least from behind the keyboard I'm sittin at .....
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Through our taxes our govt. pays for infrastructure , has for years and not likely to change anytime soon ....
IMO we would be better off if the government was not in water and road utilities. Seems every mob boss and governors nephew owns a paving company, but not bridge companies. So roads get paved every other year if they need it or not and they wait till the bridge fails.
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Sure , I'll give you the point about my lumping electrical in with roads , and will go on to agree that the less big govt. involved the better . Just remember , I was not the one advocating for such nonsense as a test and license to fly rc craft .
And , not to stray TOO far off topic , but , , , I do believe all the coming plug in cars are gonna be the "nail in the coffin" with regards to our ability to supply electricity to everyone reliably . Hell , on a good warm day half of California goes into brownout as it is now ! Add in a few zillion giga watts for charging a fleet of giant lipos and we'll have the "great blackout of 2027" for our great grandchildren to read about in the way we studied the great depression ....
And , not to stray TOO far off topic , but , , , I do believe all the coming plug in cars are gonna be the "nail in the coffin" with regards to our ability to supply electricity to everyone reliably . Hell , on a good warm day half of California goes into brownout as it is now ! Add in a few zillion giga watts for charging a fleet of giant lipos and we'll have the "great blackout of 2027" for our great grandchildren to read about in the way we studied the great depression ....
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ira d: No Harm No Foul. Like at the flying field "U should leave your feelings at Home".
I go further to say when U post on RCU especially. Again apology accepted, but Not needed.
Originally Posted by HoundDog
Halleluiah Finally someone with some seance ... Now the problem is how to get Hobby King tower the LHS (Local Hobby Shop) to do some thing to assure that everyone takes the TEST and proves their knowledge Where, When & How these QUADS may be flown.
Hound dog, I apologize somehow I kind of got what you said and Hydro Junkie said mixed up as it was Hydro junkie that made the statement about a form being sent to the AMA/FAA by
the retailer and that is where I got the registration idea from.
Halleluiah Finally someone with some seance ... Now the problem is how to get Hobby King tower the LHS (Local Hobby Shop) to do some thing to assure that everyone takes the TEST and proves their knowledge Where, When & How these QUADS may be flown.
Hound dog, I apologize somehow I kind of got what you said and Hydro Junkie said mixed up as it was Hydro junkie that made the statement about a form being sent to the AMA/FAA by
the retailer and that is where I got the registration idea from.
I go further to say when U post on RCU especially. Again apology accepted, but Not needed.
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The airliner on final approach,traveling at 160 knots, flaps down, weighing 300 tonnes, can not take drastic avoidance procedures without stalling the aircraft. The second point is, more likely than not, the pilot will not see the uSAv until it's to late, he has his hands full right then and his main object is to land the aircraft safely. The airliner should not have to avoid a uSAV, which I mentioned earlier, the uSAV should not be in that airspace in the first place. Our own AMA manual , in rule 2.c. states not to fly within 3 Miles of an airport or above 400ft AGL. No airport that handles airliners with allow model airplanes,uSAV's to fly in that airspace.
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I do believe all the coming plug in cars are gonna be the "nail in the coffin" with regards to our ability to supply electricity to everyone reliably .
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Hey...if it makes you feel better...go right ahead and get R dun. Probably will make the AMA contact feel like they didn't just waste another day as well. Just be careful of the background music you allow to run in your head while doing all these good deeds...circus music seems nice but it'll cause you to do much sillier things than the Star Spangled Banner.
Just go Flying or build and save your self and others a lot of frustration. I bid U a Good Day, If U are capable of one with your disposition and all. U are a Hoot. Maybe I should have made this a private message. OH Well.
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The airliner on final approach,traveling at 160 knots, flaps down, weighing 300 tonnes, can not take drastic avoidance procedures without stalling the aircraft.
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I do not see that as an excuse to avoid a mid air. If you miss by one millimeter you miss. Weight has nothing to do with this, as the planes wing areas match the weight. However size does, as obviously it cannot turn a radius smaller than itself. Airliners are much more maneurvable than you apparently think. Loops and rolls have been done with many models. Besides per Part 91 they are required to avoid other aircraft. Sitting in your captains seat watching is not avoiding.
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I'm not even sure how an airliner heading toward a "drone" would maneuver around it. We've all seen these little things change altitude and location in a blink of an eye. In Formula 1 racing the drivers learn to aim at a crash because by the time they get there, the wreckage will have moved.