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The FAA does not need to come down on our hobby but instead needs to make some rules that pertain to the rouge flyers and go after them.

HoundDog

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Two things first U have to get Sellers to Impress their coustermers of the proper way and where to fly PERIOD. We can't do it The AMA can't do it even the FAA can't do it.
Second Stopped into a couple Hobby shops I frequent and one said almost 50% of their has to do with Quads. The others didn't exactly say any proportion of sales were Quads but a significant amount .... Quads could be just a passing fad because of their borish way they operate. If it's boring it won't last. JMHO

Sport_Pilot

Assuming the quad weighs less than a couple of pounds. Just how much damage will it do to a jet on approach? A scratch?

phlpsfrnk

Think about it, four electric motors far denser and heavier than any bird bones rattling around in a turbo fan engine not to mention the other metal parts and carbon fiber stuff. What about the catastrophic destruction of the batteries? Seen any of the LiPo destruction U-Tube vids? What happens to that energy in a turbo fan prior to the combustion chamber? Do you seriously think it won't cause some damage?

Frank

HoundDog

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If an air liner runs a Quad over on landing is one ting but what about when it takes out an engine on Take Off? There very few of the 500 airports with scheduled air service, out of the 12000 airports in the USA, that have some where to set down except for the airport of departure. ask Sully Sullenbuger.

bradpaul

Pilot: “Hey, there was just one of those radio-controlled helicopter things that went right over the top of us at 4,000.” Controller: “Over the top of you at 4,000. Roger that.”
Pilot: “One of those remotely piloted deals.”
Controller: “Gotcha, a drone.”
Pilot: “Yep, little bitty one … was red in color.”

OK......................................... sure little bitty red one at 4000'

I see some here are buying into this fairy tale.............................................. ........

phlpsfrnk

Good point, however the chances of an encounter with a quad are greater on approach than on take off. With a typical 3 degree glide slope and slower relative airspeeds airliners are in the lower altitudes (5000 to 0 ft) with the nose down for a greater period of time. On take off the climb angle is far greater than 3 degrees and the speed is greater than approach speed so the "exposure" time is less. On the other hand the damage caused during take off would probably be greater to the engines that are developing 100% power vise something less at approach power settings.

Frank

Sport_Pilot

Small birds do little damage to a large jet. A duck can crack the windshield, it took a flock of geese to kill the engines. Planes are designed to fly through hail larger than golf balls since Southern Airway 242. So I do not see a reason for huge concern for UAV less than 5 pounds. At least with airliners. GA aircraft yes, but then again I doubt the damage could take down an aircraft, break a windshield. To cause the engine to quit it would have to hit the perfect spot.

phlpsfrnk

And why would you think it a fairy tale? Do you have proof to the contrary? What would the purpose be for a commercial pilot to make a false radio report and risk his career? Most near miss incidents require follow-up investigative paper work and pilots just love doing extra paperwork and answering questions.

Frank

littlecrankshaf

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Sounds like what you guys are really talking about is a new episode for Myth Busters...

bradpaul

It would make for a good episode ........ love the "commercial pilots" description . "little bitty one...... red in color". Can't wait to see that description in the FAA database.

HoundDog

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If the Quad went over the plane and they said it was red then does anyone know of any quad that is red on the bottom? I don't.
I've seen only white and black some are partly red on top but not all red. that I know of.

littlecrankshaf

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It was probably a drome instead...as red is a favorite color for them...they usually fly together... two or more...the pilots probably missed the others as they were probably dressed in rhinestone and sequins that tend to blend into the sky.

phlpsfrnk

I fail to see how a spur of the moment comment he made causes you to label his report as a fairy tale.

littlecrankshaf

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Because it was probably a drome! LOL

HighPlains

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It doesn't take much to damage the internal parts of a turbine. A local ag sprayer had a single Dzus fastener break free from the cowl and go through his engine last year. That put him one the ground off airport and cost several hundred thousand dollars.

About a week ago, I came out of a grocery store had heard a quad over head. This was several hours after sunset, so I would never have seen it except it had running lights and was over the actual building. After looking for the operator in the parking lot for several minutes, it finally flew away. I followed in my car until I saw it land behind a row of buildings well over a half mile away. Then I figured out that it was being flown by a guy that runs a Chinese restaurant that flies helos as well. He speaks almost no English and showed up last summer at our fun fly with some high dollar grey market RC equipment that did not function due to some internal software wanting help.

Houston, we have a problem.

N410DC

People with no R/C experience are questioning how a pilot was able to see and identify a "littly bitty" quad at 4,000', if the jet was traveling somewhere in the neighborhood of 200mph. I have to ask the same question. Aside from the statement of one pilot, there is no evidence that a quad was even there.

HoundDog

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"I saw Elvis at 1000 feet" john force

HoundDog

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May the USAF should restart Project Blue Book.


"I saw Elvis at 1000 feet" john force

phlpsfrnk

HoundDog

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Gees there it is the Crab Quad OH well Looks like U put the landing gear on the top.

bradpaul

Since Brian Williams was suspended by NBC, he is trying to make a living as a pilot for Southwest Airlines.

franklin_m

Uh....wrong. And that doesn't count any number of tactical military aircraft lost after hitting birds.

http://www.airsafe.com/birds/signif.htm

HoundDog

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When's the last time anyone here know's of a close call with any full scale plane and any RC thing on or near a chartered AMA field. The only 2 I know of is the Sun Vally Flyers in PHX AZ about 3 or 4 years ago, Darn for got the other OH Well.
One of the AMA clubs I fly at in Wisconsin has Been flying on a full scale airport for over 30 years and never had so much as a close encounter ... What I'm getting at they can eliminate all RC flying in the USA except for those at a "Community Based Organization Chartered field". Sorta tough for the Float Flyers and the guys who like to fly off the Ice in the winter but Ya gota make some sacrifices if the Hobby/Sport is to be preserved, as it is, for those that behave and fly responsibly. JMHO

littlecrankshaf

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I hope the people that think like that are few and far between...What a dark time in history would that be.