View Poll Results: Do we really need the AMA???
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Do we really need the ama, or is it just like auto insurance...another ripoff?
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For the unaware and belong to the "AMA" read the fine print on insurance coverage. The intent of the "AMA" and still is was to gather all those in pursuit of this hobby under one umbrella. For the most part they have accomplished there task but now they are being challenged by the "drone" enthusiast, who don't fit into the mold of fixed or rotary wing aircraft.
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Do we really need the ama, or is it just like auto insurance...another ripoff?
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I feel the ama needs us (um ... I mean our money) more than we need them.
But I still join ... only because of club or field rules.
But I throw all those Model Airplane magazines straight into the trash can. They don't even make it into my house.
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I feel the ama needs us (um ... I mean our money) more than we need them.
But I still join ... only because of club or field rules.
But I throw all those Model Airplane magazines straight into the trash can. They don't even make it into my house.
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For those of you who voted "Nay", what will you do for insurance? At least where I live, the cost of $2.5M of excess or "umbrella" coverage is much more expensive than $60 per year. Granted, your own umbrella coverage covers many other liabilities, but it still isn't cheap.
Also, what if more restrictive regulations are implemented in the future. Who would work with representatives of Congress to ensure that private modelers are protected?
-Ed B.
Also, what if more restrictive regulations are implemented in the future. Who would work with representatives of Congress to ensure that private modelers are protected?
-Ed B.
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for those who do not know,the ama is more than an insurance plan,they have fought for this hobby more than any individual has,radio freq"airspace,club fields,and they do more to promote the hobby than any individual could ever dream of,with out the AMA this hobby would have been laid to rest years ago,so for you newcomers that think it is just insurance remember this,the ama has been fighting for its members long before most of us were involved in this hobby,I personaly know of 2 claims paid out by the ama that were extensive amounts,had it not been for the AMA those two individuals would have been ruined financialy,remember this day and age when everyone wants to sue it is nice to know the AMA has our back,been a member since 1979 and i will continue to keep my subscription paid.just my 2 cents worth...Ronald Hopping
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Do we really need the ama, or is it just like auto insurance...another ripoff?
Which of the three questions in your post do you want answered?
1.Do we really need the ama?
2.is it just like auto insurance?
3..another ripoff?
Answers are YES, NO, NO
1.Do we really need the ama?
2.is it just like auto insurance?
3..another ripoff?
Answers are YES, NO, NO
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By the way, OP, what is the objective of the poll?
So far, the poll has a statistical sample size of .0111764 percent which means it is meaningless and by the time it runs its course and activity drops off to zero, it will still be hovering down in inconsequential territory. Just as now, there will still be folks who don't think the AMA is needed and there will be those that think it is. Thankfully, the AMA exists and isn't going away.
Incidentally, I didn't vote as it won't make a difference. If the vote actually meant something, I would have. I did however voice my opinion.
Lars
So far, the poll has a statistical sample size of .0111764 percent which means it is meaningless and by the time it runs its course and activity drops off to zero, it will still be hovering down in inconsequential territory. Just as now, there will still be folks who don't think the AMA is needed and there will be those that think it is. Thankfully, the AMA exists and isn't going away.
Incidentally, I didn't vote as it won't make a difference. If the vote actually meant something, I would have. I did however voice my opinion.
Lars
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I would have to assume it is because without the insurance (AMA) clubs would not exist in the sue happy state we have been in for the last 30-50 years. I know as a property owner I would not allow it without such an insurance policy in place.
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I fly at a really great flying field with a terrific bunch of folks from all over the country. We all get along, have a lot of fun, and enjoy the hobby, each in our own way. The county owns the field, and we have a long term lease. The "insurance" AMA allegedly provides helps this to happen. Individual members in our club are required to be members of AMA, so if a few don't have other insurance, the rest of us have some level of financial help if necessary in the event of an accident. The club guys have had a couple of issues, and AMA was no help at all, but push comes to shove, there would be some results I'm sure. The most troublesome thing about AMA to me is that most of our dues, more than half, goes for salaries and benefits to AMA employees, and the figure is in the millions. The financial statements are a blur, and most of us just accept things as they are, because it's not worth fighting over. The SFA was an alternative, but AMA went after them, and that was that. Not to open old wounds; one of the bad things about old age is that we forget everything but the grudges.
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I fly at a really great flying field with a terrific bunch of folks from all over the country. We all get along, have a lot of fun, and enjoy the hobby, each in our own way. The county owns the field, and we have a long term lease. The "insurance" AMA allegedly provides helps this to happen. Individual members in our club are required to be members of AMA, so if a few don't have other insurance, the rest of us have some level of financial help if necessary in the event of an accident. The club guys have had a couple of issues, and AMA was no help at all, but push comes to shove, there would be some results I'm sure. The most troublesome thing about AMA to me is that most of our dues, more than half, goes for salaries and benefits to AMA employees, and the figure is in the millions. The financial statements are a blur, and most of us just accept things as they are, because it's not worth fighting over. The SFA was an alternative, but AMA went after them, and that was that. Not to open old wounds; one of the bad things about old age is that we forget everything but the grudges.
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Yet, why would the membership do much more? Some 15% at most vote for whatever AMA hands out, and 85% +/- do nothing but pay "for their insurance". That kind of membership simply allows the AMA Staff to do whatever they please, whenever they please with the monies coming into their hands.
I have favored the AMA for many years like some 70 years. I still do and I will continue to do so, Unfortunately the vast majority of the membership does NOT deserve any thing more so than what AMA throws at them. What a frigging shame for the most of you, but you well deserve it. You recently had a real chance to get a lot of things accomplished, but reading the ads took over and you just sit here. SO SAD!
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I see the AMA, though imperfect, as a beneficial service well worth the investment. I think they are failing miserably in the way they have responded to the FAA's plan to deregulate model aviation, like it ever was regulated (he snarked). But, to me, that issue is a separate matter. I gave your poll a "yea" vote even though I do not regard the AMA as a pure necessity.
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to the OP... do you really need to waste peoples time with such an )*&%# question? seriously? ( Do we really need the ama, or is it just like auto insurance...another ripoff? ) The second question should be,... "is someone a few tools short of a tool box to ask such a rhetorical question ". hither + yonder... hmmmmm
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I vote Yea. If I understand correctly, the AMA Insurance is well worth the 50-60 dollars per year. Your homeowners insurance covers you first in case of an accident. If that is exhausted in some type of Lawsuit, the Homeowners only covers up to the Maximum Liability and Medical, of your Policy. If however, it is required that you have to pay more to cover the damages, that is when the AMA Insurance kicks in. If you are a renter, the same applies.
How do put a price on a human fatality or serious accident? It happens. I myself would not like flying without the AMA Insurance.
How do put a price on a human fatality or serious accident? It happens. I myself would not like flying without the AMA Insurance.
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[QUOTE=FLAPHappy;11935924 .............. I myself would not like flying without the AMA Insurance.[/QUOTE]
I would not like to be on a flying field unless I know that the flyers have AMA Insurance.
I would not like to be on a flying field unless I know that the flyers have AMA Insurance.