View Poll Results: Do we really need the AMA???
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Do we really need the ama, or is it just like auto insurance...another ripoff?
12-21-2014, 04:03 PM
#302
I'm on the fence. The reason, how and what I fly has changed. I'm more interested in flying opportunity, and what increases that are small electric models that I can fly in the part 75 yards from my house or at the school (larger) 150 yards away. The nearest AMA flying field is 20 minutes away. So when you look at the "time overhead" required to pack the car, drive there, unpack and setup, and on then start flying...it's something I haven't done in a year. On the other hand, I can doing 450 size helicopter in my yard, and larger stuff in a 5 minute walk.
12-21-2014, 04:58 PM
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12-21-2014, 05:05 PM
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Ponder this...................... back in WW2 the pilots reported incidents between "foo fighters" and their planes, in the 50's and 60's it was UFO's now it is multi rotor drones at 10,000' or a RC F4 turbine jet at 5000'. The hysteria is like a virus,
12-21-2014, 05:16 PM
#312
Struck a nerve did I? The more interesting number, to FAA regulators, lawmakers, and the general traveling public is that five years ago, they never heard of near misses between "drones" and planes carrying them and their loved ones. Now, they're hearing of them weekly. If the zero was so significant, then why the attention from FAA and the media? The reason is that they're not willling to let that zero become a one. And that group far outnumbers us.
12-21-2014, 05:18 PM
#313
While some may well be hysteria, there's enough reckless operators posting videos to show that there's too many that are not imaginary - and thus my support for FAA regulating. My recommendation: Hobby = no compensation in any form, nothing over 400' AGL, no FPV, no autonomous navigation, no flight in/under class B or C airspace, nothing within 5nm of class D or full size airfields w/o written agreement, no flight in/under military training routes during NOTAM'd operating hours, and nothing over 55lbs.
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12-21-2014, 05:39 PM
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12-21-2014, 05:47 PM
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I bit on that...whoop dee do. What does matter is that five states have laws on the books already, many more introduced around the country. And it's only going to get worse so long as self-regulation continues to be ineffective.
12-21-2014, 05:55 PM
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Is this what you call doing nothing?
The Federal Aviation Administration and leading unmanned aircraft systems (UAS) trade organizations have scheduled a teleconference to announce a “UASSafety Campaign,” on December 22, the same day projected as the release date of the agency’s long-delayed draft regulation on small drones.
The FAA, the Association of Unmanned Vehicle Systems International, the Small UAV Coalition and the Academy of Model Aeronautics will participate on the call, according to a media advisory. “Just in time for the holidays, the UAS campaign will provide prospective users of the technology with the information they need to fly safely and responsibly,” states the advisory. There was no mention of the eagerly awaited “small UAS” notice of proposed rulemaking (NPRM).
12-21-2014, 05:56 PM
#319
Some will disagree I'm sure. But then I'd ask if they'd characterize AMA's actions to date a success?
12-21-2014, 06:04 PM
#320
Also, did you notice that AMA's lobbyist took another job? So they lose their point man in DC and they've hired a new PR firm. Hardly signs of something going well.
12-21-2014, 06:06 PM
#321
Instead of reacting to rediculous reporting proposals the AMA is having a jointj teleconference tomorrow: http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-ne...n-announcement
Is this what you call doing nothing?
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Is this what you call doing nothing?
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Keep in mind though, for FAA to get regulations through, they have to demonstrate that lesser measures have not worked. So they're doing this campaign, knowing that little Johnny and his parents will ignore it, and that the drone reports will likely continue. Thus, they can go to Congress and say "We tried awareness campaigns, partnered with industry and hobby groups, and the near misses continued. So we need this additional regulation."
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12-21-2014, 06:19 PM
#322
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Their failure was not getting out in front of the issue in the first place. They put all their eggs in the 336 basket and how'd that work out for them? AMA needs to find a way to regain the initiative with legislators and regulators. What makes it tough is that they need to do this knowing that there's a large portion of the RC population that could care less about the AMA safety code - the reckless operators that are showing up in the news. So, I propose that the only way to get back out in front is to cut ties w/ FPV and autonomous crowd and get back to core constituency. They'd do this by proposing to FAA something like what I described above. In doing so, they create a clear distinction between hobby use and the knuckleheads.
Some will disagree I'm sure. But then I'd ask if they'd characterize AMA's actions to date a success?
Some will disagree I'm sure. But then I'd ask if they'd characterize AMA's actions to date a success?
12-21-2014, 06:45 PM
#323
as I noted earlier, no matter what they do, or did, the criticism rains down. Now because they've changed lobbyist, bang, another hit. Keep in mind, if they kept the same guy/firm, another group would be hammering away at that. Change in the strategy is always a factor, as is who is leading the charge. Nothing alarming there. There is only so much they could do, and only so much they can do. There has been no gross mishandling or ineptitude at any level, and nothing has been set in stone at this time. Things didn't go our way at every turn, so what? It's evolving, and at the end of the day nothing major or earth shattering is going to happen the the average hobbyist. I know this because I shook my magic eight ball (no, I didn't shoot it..I shook it), and it said "No Big Change". I don't second guess the Eight Ball, to do so would just be foolish.
12-21-2014, 06:51 PM
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