Dues increase coming? 1 million spent on government relations.....
11-24-2015, 07:09 AM
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Why not contact them directly and find out for yourself?
http://www.modelaviation.com/authorguidelines
http://www.modelaviation.com/authorguidelines
Mike
11-24-2015, 07:20 AM
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11-24-2015, 07:55 AM
#1928
Actually, I want you to go on record. They encourage contact by email, which I did and got no response; you said I should have called. When I called, you said I should have sent a letter. I want to see if you're willing to go on record with what you would consider acceptable.
What I would do:
1) Email
if no response,
2) Follow-up in writing. Mail via USPS.
if no response,
3) Follow-up in writing again, send USPS certified mail. CC President/Executive Director.
11-24-2015, 07:58 AM
#1929
I'm no expert. I do try to be helpful and find answers for folks when they ask questions and direct them to the source of the information they're looking for. Isn't that what the forums are all about?
11-24-2015, 09:50 AM
#1930
Apparently, you failed to understand the escalation process I was describing.
What I would do:
1) Email
if no response,
2) Follow-up in writing. Mail via USPS.
if no response,
3) Follow-up in writing again, send USPS certified mail. CC President/Executive Director.
What I would do:
1) Email
if no response,
2) Follow-up in writing. Mail via USPS.
if no response,
3) Follow-up in writing again, send USPS certified mail. CC President/Executive Director.
Wow. That sounds like an approach a lawyer would take to prove receipt. Pretty disappointing that a member has to go to that length just to get the organization to provide the courtesy of a response. Sure doesn't speak to a good administrative process, or for accountability or respect for member submissions. Also points to dysfunctional staff, but that's more a managment issue inside the HQ.
11-24-2015, 10:19 AM
#1931
Wow. That sounds like an approach a lawyer would take to prove receipt. Pretty disappointing that a member has to go to that length just to get the organization to provide the courtesy of a response. Sure doesn't speak to a good administrative process, or for accountability or respect for member submissions. Also points to dysfunctional staff, but that's more a managment issue inside the HQ.
11-24-2015, 10:22 AM
#1932
Wow. That sounds like an approach a lawyer would take to prove receipt. Pretty disappointing that a member has to go to that length just to get the organization to provide the courtesy of a response. Sure doesn't speak to a good administrative process, or for accountability or respect for member submissions. Also points to dysfunctional staff, but that's more a managment issue inside the HQ.
11-24-2015, 11:03 AM
#1933
That's my own personal escalation procedure, not standard operating procedure. As previously communicated to you, I've never had to escalate in all my communications with the AMA (~20 years). All my emails (and phone calls when used as primary communications method) have always been answered/returned.
11-24-2015, 11:33 AM
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11-24-2015, 11:50 AM
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12-04-2015, 06:43 AM
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I was just thumbing thru the latest issue of M.A.
From the Copilots Seat Page 140
""Only 5 years ago we had roughly 142,000 ,but 2015 saw our membership grow to a all time high of 187,666 Of that more than 50,000 are youth members."
So in reality we have 137,666 ( if that) paying members. I have no problem with youth members but lets be more realistic on paying members footing the bill. Which brings me to the next item.
In that same article
"AMA has partnered with major retailers concerning their selling of drones. With each qualifying multirotor sold, the retailers provide their customers with information on "Know Before You Fly" and a one year AMA membership. If the customer is already a AMA member ,then one year is added to his or her membership".
The argument that the AMA is "going to the drones" is right on target. Now were giving free AMA memberships to them. What about the poor fixed wing, helicopter or glider guy?
No wonder they needed a dues increase someone has to pay for this.......................................
Mike
From the Copilots Seat Page 140
""Only 5 years ago we had roughly 142,000 ,but 2015 saw our membership grow to a all time high of 187,666 Of that more than 50,000 are youth members."
So in reality we have 137,666 ( if that) paying members. I have no problem with youth members but lets be more realistic on paying members footing the bill. Which brings me to the next item.
In that same article
"AMA has partnered with major retailers concerning their selling of drones. With each qualifying multirotor sold, the retailers provide their customers with information on "Know Before You Fly" and a one year AMA membership. If the customer is already a AMA member ,then one year is added to his or her membership".
The argument that the AMA is "going to the drones" is right on target. Now were giving free AMA memberships to them. What about the poor fixed wing, helicopter or glider guy?
No wonder they needed a dues increase someone has to pay for this.......................................
Mike
12-04-2015, 06:57 AM
#1939
I was just thumbing thru the latest issue of M.A.
From the Copilots Seat Page 140
""Only 5 years ago we had roughly 142,000 ,but 2015 saw our membership grow to a all time high of 187,666 Of that more than 50,000 are youth members."
So in reality we have 137,666 ( if that) paying members. I have no problem with youth members but lets be more realistic on paying members footing the bill. Which brings me to the next item.
In that same article
"AMA has partnered with major retailers concerning their selling of drones. With each qualifying multirotor sold, the retailers provide their customers with information on "Know Before You Fly" and a one year AMA membership. If the customer is already a AMA member ,then one year is added to his or her membership".
The argument that the AMA is "going to the drones" is right on target. Now were giving free AMA memberships to them. What about the poor fixed wing, helicopter or glider guy?
No wonder they needed a dues increase someone has to pay for this.......................................
Mike
From the Copilots Seat Page 140
""Only 5 years ago we had roughly 142,000 ,but 2015 saw our membership grow to a all time high of 187,666 Of that more than 50,000 are youth members."
So in reality we have 137,666 ( if that) paying members. I have no problem with youth members but lets be more realistic on paying members footing the bill. Which brings me to the next item.
In that same article
"AMA has partnered with major retailers concerning their selling of drones. With each qualifying multirotor sold, the retailers provide their customers with information on "Know Before You Fly" and a one year AMA membership. If the customer is already a AMA member ,then one year is added to his or her membership".
The argument that the AMA is "going to the drones" is right on target. Now were giving free AMA memberships to them. What about the poor fixed wing, helicopter or glider guy?
No wonder they needed a dues increase someone has to pay for this.......................................
Mike
12-04-2015, 07:57 AM
#1940
Regards,
12-04-2015, 08:06 AM
#1941
Here's some food for thought: The AMA wouldn't NEED millions of dollars in revenue if they were to just stick with the traditional members that they have had for almost 80 years. Kind of a catch-22 to NEED new membersip $$ just to advocate for the new members you are embracing!
Regards,
Regards,
12-04-2015, 08:07 AM
#1942
I was just thumbing thru the latest issue of M.A.
From the Copilots Seat Page 140
""Only 5 years ago we had roughly 142,000 ,but 2015 saw our membership grow to a all time high of 187,666 Of that more than 50,000 are youth members."
So in reality we have 137,666 ( if that) paying members. I have no problem with youth members but lets be more realistic on paying members footing the bill. Which brings me to the next item.
In that same article
"AMA has partnered with major retailers concerning their selling of drones. With each qualifying multirotor sold, the retailers provide their customers with information on "Know Before You Fly" and a one year AMA membership. If the customer is already a AMA member ,then one year is added to his or her membership".
The argument that the AMA is "going to the drones" is right on target. Now were giving free AMA memberships to them. What about the poor fixed wing, helicopter or glider guy?
No wonder they needed a dues increase someone has to pay for this.......................................
Mike
From the Copilots Seat Page 140
""Only 5 years ago we had roughly 142,000 ,but 2015 saw our membership grow to a all time high of 187,666 Of that more than 50,000 are youth members."
So in reality we have 137,666 ( if that) paying members. I have no problem with youth members but lets be more realistic on paying members footing the bill. Which brings me to the next item.
In that same article
"AMA has partnered with major retailers concerning their selling of drones. With each qualifying multirotor sold, the retailers provide their customers with information on "Know Before You Fly" and a one year AMA membership. If the customer is already a AMA member ,then one year is added to his or her membership".
The argument that the AMA is "going to the drones" is right on target. Now were giving free AMA memberships to them. What about the poor fixed wing, helicopter or glider guy?
No wonder they needed a dues increase someone has to pay for this.......................................
Mike
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12-04-2015, 08:21 AM
#1944
I was just thumbing thru the latest issue of M.A.
From the Copilots Seat Page 140
""Only 5 years ago we had roughly 142,000 ,but 2015 saw our membership grow to a all time high of 187,666 Of that more than 50,000 are youth members."
So in reality we have 137,666 ( if that) paying members. I have no problem with youth members but lets be more realistic on paying members footing the bill. Which brings me to the next item.
In that same article
"AMA has partnered with major retailers concerning their selling of drones. With each qualifying multirotor sold, the retailers provide their customers with information on "Know Before You Fly" and a one year AMA membership. If the customer is already a AMA member ,then one year is added to his or her membership".
Looks like that's reason to buy My first Quad/Drone/Multi roter. Think they might throw anothe year in if I got it with FPV and Another for GPS. LOL
The argument that the AMA is "going to the drones" is right on target. Now were giving free AMA memberships to them. What about the poor fixed wing, helicopter or glider guy?
No wonder they needed a dues increase someone has to pay for this.......................................
Mike
From the Copilots Seat Page 140
""Only 5 years ago we had roughly 142,000 ,but 2015 saw our membership grow to a all time high of 187,666 Of that more than 50,000 are youth members."
So in reality we have 137,666 ( if that) paying members. I have no problem with youth members but lets be more realistic on paying members footing the bill. Which brings me to the next item.
In that same article
"AMA has partnered with major retailers concerning their selling of drones. With each qualifying multirotor sold, the retailers provide their customers with information on "Know Before You Fly" and a one year AMA membership. If the customer is already a AMA member ,then one year is added to his or her membership".
Looks like that's reason to buy My first Quad/Drone/Multi roter. Think they might throw anothe year in if I got it with FPV and Another for GPS. LOL
The argument that the AMA is "going to the drones" is right on target. Now were giving free AMA memberships to them. What about the poor fixed wing, helicopter or glider guy?
No wonder they needed a dues increase someone has to pay for this.......................................
Mike
12-04-2015, 09:25 AM
#1946
Not true, the FAA was pushing congress to regulate model airplanes since about 2008, this has nothing to do with so called embracing of drones. In fact nothing to do with drones at all. It has to do with model airplanes as defined by the COTUS. The so called drones are part of the model airplane definition. No one here had a problem with the definition till this year.
Astro
12-04-2015, 09:36 AM
#1947
The FAA was not cooperating with the AMA, in fact they were fighting each other. AMA has not and is not romancing drones. Instead they are working with us and others to protect model aviation which happens to include multi rotor or quads.
12-04-2015, 09:50 AM
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12-04-2015, 10:21 AM
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http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/ama-...bership-3.html
12-04-2015, 11:12 AM
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Looks like YOU only had nine posts in this very thread on the very same subject less than a month ago:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/ama-...bership-3.html
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/ama-...bership-3.html
I emailed the author of the article asking for clarification. When and if I get it I'll post it.
Mike