Change is coming...
06-19-2015, 07:37 AM
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Good, then you're well aware of the work effort involved in collecting dues and verifying all members renewed their AMA membership. Now, rather than keeping it an annual process it becomes a year round process....
06-19-2015, 07:39 AM
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Our club, SCCMAS has you put your club membership card on a clothspin at the Xmitter impound and their is a new post with a panel that has 12 pins to hold your AMA
card. Its located at the runway entry, just beyond the start up area. Their are seven flite stations.
Sorry to hear about the extra work for the C.S.
May someone buy you a well deserved burger and ice cold beverage at your next swap meet.
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card. Its located at the runway entry, just beyond the start up area. Their are seven flite stations.
Sorry to hear about the extra work for the C.S.
May someone buy you a well deserved burger and ice cold beverage at your next swap meet.
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06-19-2015, 07:43 AM
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Our club, SCCMAS has you put your club membership card on a clothspin at the Xmitter impound and their is a new post with a panel that has 12 pins to hold your AMA
card. Its located at the runway entry, just beyond the start up area. Their are seven flite stations.
Sorry to hear about the extra work.........
Plane ~
card. Its located at the runway entry, just beyond the start up area. Their are seven flite stations.
Sorry to hear about the extra work.........
Plane ~
06-19-2015, 07:53 AM
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Never found it a problem. The biggest pain...and that was very simple stuff, was adding the club members' info (just one time!) on the roster for AMA...but after that is done it's really a very simple matter to go to AMA's website and view the club roster to see who's current. AMA makes it about as easy as it could ever be to keep up with that kind of thing...
06-19-2015, 08:27 AM
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Never found it a problem. The biggest pain...and that was very simple stuff, was adding the club members' info (just one time!) on the roster for AMA...but after that is done it's really a very simple matter to go to AMA's website and view the club roster to see who's current. AMA makes it about as easy as it could ever be to keep up with that kind of thing...
06-19-2015, 08:35 AM
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It's not about knowing when it's going to expire, it's about ensuring external parties (e.g. club members) renew their membership before it expires. If you have any hands-on experience as a club officer, then you already know not everyone pays their dues on time, not everyone renews their AMA before it expires, etc.
06-19-2015, 08:48 AM
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When someone doesn't renew and has an accident at the field it won't be "all on them". The entire club will suffer.
06-19-2015, 09:24 AM
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Not sure how the club suffers...By virtue of being a AMA chartered club, the club is insured... Think about it...if someone, say just to spectate, comes to the field and has an accident...and is not even flying, the club is covered... Now, I know you will make the distinction based on whether or not they are flying...but please direct me to any exclusion to the club's liability insurance based on a non-club or non-AMA member's activity. If you give me that, I will concede your point and offer my apologies for my ignorance. Fair enough???
06-19-2015, 09:38 AM
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Not sure how the club suffers...By virtue of being a AMA chartered club, the club is insured... Think about it...if someone, say just to spectate, comes to the field and has an accident...and is not even flying, the club is covered... Now, I know you will make the distinction based on whether or not they are flying...but please direct me to any exclusion to the club's liability insurance based on a non-club or non-AMA member's activity. If you give me that, I will concede your point and offer my apologies for my ignorance. Fair enough???
06-19-2015, 09:50 AM
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It's quite simple actually. The vast majority of clubs don't own the property their club field is on. Lets just say an accident of any kind occurs and the property owner learns the member who caused or was involved in the accident was operating with an expired AMA membership. Out of liability concerns and irresponsible actions caused by one club member, the property owner terminates the club's use of the field. All members suffer the loss of their field. Ask any property owner allowing their property to be used by an R/C club what their number one concern is...liability.
06-19-2015, 10:34 AM
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But land owners coverage provided by AMA clubs is primary... The land owner is covered regardless... Again, please be so kind as to direct me to any exclusions that actually exists. What you are saying is the old song and dance repeated over and over...but I find no basis in fact... but always looking to learn.
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This has the potential to be a nightmare for clubs.
Clubs will now need to adopt the same system to keep things right. Secretary's and Membership officers will now have their hand full year round.
Also, clubs will need to keep the membership drive going year round instead of just a few months out of the year.
This will prove to be interesting.
One positive about this, is if clubs decide to adopt the same policy, the potential of the yearly work load could spread out over time.
Clubs will now need to adopt the same system to keep things right. Secretary's and Membership officers will now have their hand full year round.
Also, clubs will need to keep the membership drive going year round instead of just a few months out of the year.
This will prove to be interesting.
One positive about this, is if clubs decide to adopt the same policy, the potential of the yearly work load could spread out over time.
06-19-2015, 10:48 AM
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Sure they do...and will more often refuse use when they are feed a load of BS scare crapola... Maybe, just maybe, if they were properly reassured they are covered regardless, as is the case, the best I understand, that would be much less of a problem...you have a choice when negotiating with land owners...scare the hell out them or give them the facts... I don't think land owners should/would really buy into to letting their land use be determined on some technical exception that only some club officiate is responsible for enforcing nor should they...that's why it doesn't work that way...
06-19-2015, 11:00 AM
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OMG! Most of the post here are a prime example of what is wrong with this country, everybody is afraid of a little work. I have been on the board and an officer, no matter how you slice it the work consist of about one hour a month at the laptop. I was also responsible for mowing the 28 acres for three years, that's 9 hour days one day a week, so what! I'll say it again, soooo whaaat! I love flying and I am willing to do what it takes to have, keep, and maintain my club and it's property regardless of the 98% not willing to do anything. And I am quite sure every other club in this country is the same way. Sooo whaaat.
My auto is primary, homeowners secondary, and AMA as a last resort and I don't care what AMA raises it to I will be a member for I have and own far more than I am willing to lose to some jack-wad's lawsuit.
My auto is primary, homeowners secondary, and AMA as a last resort and I don't care what AMA raises it to I will be a member for I have and own far more than I am willing to lose to some jack-wad's lawsuit.
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OMG! Most of the post here are a prime example of what is wrong with this country, everybody is afraid of a little work. I have been on the board and an officer, no matter how you slice it the work consist of about one hour a month at the laptop. I was also responsible for mowing the 28 acres for three years, that's 9 hour days one day a week, so what! I'll say it again, soooo whaaat! I love flying and I am willing to do what it takes to have, keep, and maintain my club and it's property regardless of the 98% not willing to do anything. And I am quite sure every other club in this country is the same way. Sooo whaaat.
My auto is primary, homeowners secondary, and AMA as a last resort and I don't care what AMA raises it to I will be a member for I have and own far more than I am willing to lose to some jack-wad's lawsuit.
My auto is primary, homeowners secondary, and AMA as a last resort and I don't care what AMA raises it to I will be a member for I have and own far more than I am willing to lose to some jack-wad's lawsuit.