Change is coming...
06-19-2015, 11:57 AM
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Actually, I just spoke with the guy that followed me on the mowing day before yesterday and he says he is good but will let me know when a change of driver is needed. As for the other stuff, it is always the same select few, always has been and always will be. Our current president has been in office for four years now, and I don't see anyone stepping up to the plate in the near future. I was vice for a number of years and would be glad to be P but my personality would get in the way with some of the events we do, I don't sugar coat very well. Most join a club just to go play and could care less about any work needing done. And quite frankly I am ok with it, if more were involved more things would need mending.
06-19-2015, 09:20 PM
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Our club bylaws state the minute your AMA lapses you club membership is extinguished as well... So never a need to dun anyone about that... members are aware of that from get-go and we haven't had a single problem...So this change will matter not to our club secretary...
to insure that everybody flying will always be current with the AMA.
06-19-2015, 09:22 PM
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Sure they do...and will more often refuse use when they are feed a load of BS scare crapola... Maybe, just maybe, if they were properly reassured they are covered regardless, as is the case, the best I understand, that would be much less of a problem...you have a choice when negotiating with land owners...scare the hell out them or give them the facts... I don't think land owners should/would really buy into to letting their land use be determined on some technical exception that only some club officiate is responsible for enforcing nor should they...that's why it doesn't work that way...
06-20-2015, 03:44 AM
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Doesn't AMA already provide on-line club rosters that club officers can look-up 24/7, with AMA membership expiration dates included? It would seem easy enough to print a copy and post at the field. Seems like a good tool for officers and a handy reminder for members to renew their memberships.
06-20-2015, 04:26 AM
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Doesn't AMA already provide on-line club rosters that club officers can look-up 24/7, with AMA membership expiration dates included? It would seem easy enough to print a copy and post at the field. Seems like a good tool for officers and a handy reminder for members to renew their memberships.
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06-20-2015, 05:15 AM
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Therein lies the problem. Today, I know every member of my club is current on their AMA and their AMA membership is valid through at least the end of 2015. No computer and no follow-up required.... The new change is actually a step backwards for clubs.
06-20-2015, 05:17 AM
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Doesn't AMA already provide on-line club rosters that club officers can look-up 24/7, with AMA membership expiration dates included? It would seem easy enough to print a copy and post at the field. Seems like a good tool for officers and a handy reminder for members to renew their memberships.
06-20-2015, 05:46 AM
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At first thought it seemed like a good idea but as I chewed on it I find it less appealing. Our club already has a bit of an issue with some members maintaining current AMA and this seems to be an issue at the first of the year with some folks, all sorts of songs and dances, i.e.: check in the mail, wouldn't print receipt, etc. Always happens at our first events of the year, so we just use the smart phone and go online for member verification, AMA verifies you fly, if not, you don't. Happens once, no issue for the remainder of the year, everyone has their card and boy do they whip it out when they register. I can only imagine doing the first of the year battle all year long. Leave well enough alone, I say. I might add that our field is remote so to get internet access I have to activate my hotspot and absorb that cost within my own personnel finance, if I had to maintain it for the whole year I would bill the club.
06-20-2015, 07:30 AM
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06-20-2015, 07:34 AM
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At first thought it seemed like a good idea but as I chewed on it I find it less appealing. Our club already has a bit of an issue with some members maintaining current AMA and this seems to be an issue at the first of the year with some folks, all sorts of songs and dances, i.e.: check in the mail, wouldn't print receipt, etc. Always happens at our first events of the year, so we just use the smart phone and go online for member verification, AMA verifies you fly, if not, you don't. Happens once, no issue for the remainder of the year, everyone has their card and boy do they whip it out when they register. I can only imagine doing the first of the year battle all year long. Leave well enough alone, I say. I might add that our field is remote so to get internet access I have to activate my hotspot and absorb that cost within my own personnel finance, if I had to maintain it for the whole year I would bill the club.
06-20-2015, 07:39 AM
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Sounds good on paper, but it's not the reality when dealing with members. No club officer I know wants to deal with kicking out members mid-year for not renewing their AMA when the member paid for a full year's dues.
06-20-2015, 07:53 AM
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Kicking out members??? Yea, what a chore...LOL At our club its all automatic...no one has to do anything...certainly no kicking involved...but we are a very friendly type club.
06-20-2015, 07:59 AM
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Ace Dude,
You sure would be a perfect fit for another club here. They talley the roster and actually will make calls on New Years day morning warning-off those that might attend the yearly New years Day event if they have let their AMA lapse... What a pain...and so uncalled for...Just amazing how some people are so concerned with another's benefit that the AMA provides them. Unreal how such things get so twisted...
You sure would be a perfect fit for another club here. They talley the roster and actually will make calls on New Years day morning warning-off those that might attend the yearly New years Day event if they have let their AMA lapse... What a pain...and so uncalled for...Just amazing how some people are so concerned with another's benefit that the AMA provides them. Unreal how such things get so twisted...
06-20-2015, 08:22 AM
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Could... but not going to...you are a bright enough guy IMO and should be able to figure out the solution if you tried even a little bit...but you probably won't since you seem obsessed with getting into other people's business...
06-20-2015, 08:53 AM
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Ace Dude,
You sure would be a perfect fit for another club here. They talley the roster and actually will make calls on New Years day morning warning-off those that might attend the yearly New years Day event if they have let their AMA lapse... What a pain...and so uncalled for...Just amazing how some people are so concerned with another's benefit that the AMA provides them. Unreal how such things get so twisted...
You sure would be a perfect fit for another club here. They talley the roster and actually will make calls on New Years day morning warning-off those that might attend the yearly New years Day event if they have let their AMA lapse... What a pain...and so uncalled for...Just amazing how some people are so concerned with another's benefit that the AMA provides them. Unreal how such things get so twisted...
06-20-2015, 09:00 AM
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Exactly what I expected. Just another individual quoting policy and procedure with no supporting documentation to back it up. Until sufficient documentation is provided, it's just heresay.
06-20-2015, 09:15 AM
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Look, I don't mean to be so facetious but just having a hard time understanding why you are so obsessed with other people's business, particularly their ability or inability to cover/maintain their own lability protection. Seems a person should worry more about the protections they have in place for themselves but I am not their daddy...
06-20-2015, 09:20 AM
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Oh and as for "another individual quoting policy and procedure with no supporting documentation"...I have asked you for anything to support your contentions as it relates directly to the assertions you have previously made... You just want me to do the dance...are you Lawrence Whelk??? LOL
06-20-2015, 09:24 AM
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Work smarter, not harder.
Secretaries, use Outlook Calendar, input the Month and name of each members renewal. That's a one time effort and then do the same with each new members as they join..
Next, within your clubs newsletter you likely communicate next months upcoming events, also add members with upcoming renewals. It's a helpful reminder for everyone, helps with accountability and member awareness. No excuses.
Secretaries, use Outlook Calendar, input the Month and name of each members renewal. That's a one time effort and then do the same with each new members as they join..
Next, within your clubs newsletter you likely communicate next months upcoming events, also add members with upcoming renewals. It's a helpful reminder for everyone, helps with accountability and member awareness. No excuses.
06-20-2015, 09:37 AM
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It may even be easier still. With AMA's club roster feature for club officers, simply go online and you can see which club members are current and which are not on your club roster - no need to look up club members individually!!!. It gives the renewal dates as well. When AMA starts using year-to-date membership, this feature should simplify the effort.
06-20-2015, 09:39 AM
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Look, I don't mean to be so facetious but just having a hard time understanding why you are so obsessed with other people's business, particularly their ability or inability to cover/maintain their own lability protection. Seems a person should worry more about the protections they have in place for themselves but I am not their daddy...
